Hacking cIOSrev15 released and it's broken yay

[Skizzo]

I think Hermes, WiiPower and oggzee are the most active developers that still enjoy the challenges that code for the Wii offers.

Please, Mr. Waninkoko, release the source at least for these three fellas.

And thanks for everything so far.

No, not for ogze, this asshole doesn't care for open-source and GPl and such stuff.

I hope you understand what it is you're saying. So far, the source hasn't been released for any of Wanin's cIOS's, correct? And he says we have to ask WiiGator (or perhaps he will). Considering oggzee HAS released the source code for his apps (perhaps not in the timely fashion that would have completely complied with the GPL but released nonetheless), what are you saying about Wanin and WiiGator? Oggzee isn't an asshole, but you might be. And at least he doesn't have skin as thin as rice paper.

 

[Skizzo]

man don bail out on the wii scene jus cuz some people act like morons. ya did nothin wrong it's just a minor issue that could probly be fixed in neogamma, seeings that the sourcecode was released with neogamma i'm sure if wiipower would approve someone elts can build a cios rev15 fix for neogamma and hopefully have it added. b/c with cioscorp personally havn't had any issues with the 001 bug. btw don't say i dunno what u b goin through with time b/c personally i have classes to attend too and projects i wouldn't mind fixing and finnishing myself and can't get to 90% of the time.

If you know the source was included with NeoGamma, then you should also know it's GPL'd and people don't need Wiipower's approval for anything.

I sure hope one of those classes is remedial English.

 

[trigger_ftu]

I told Waninkoko about the bug like 100 times, last time yesterday with the latest beta version i got.

The bug i mean is the following:
If a loader writes the correct value to address 0x80003184, the 001 check fails.

The result of this is:
001 error on disc channel (this means, among other things, most likely no cioscorp possible with rev15)
001 error on discs in NeoGamma and SoftChip
green screen freeze on usb(and most likely sd too) with NeoGamma

I will not release a "fixed" version of NeoGamma for rev15!

With this issue i don't care about possible still broken wifi and low sdhc compatibility.


Ok, since Waninkoko seems to have left the scene, let's try to get an overview of what we have got:

cIOSrev7:
Plays only discs, no dual layer, does not work on new Wiis. (LU64+ issue) But nothing else to complain

cIOSrev8:
Does not play new 001 games, does not play 002b games, only discs, does not work on new Wiis, maybe not disc channel compatible*

cIOSrev9&10:
Does not play new 001 games, does not play 002b games, does not work on new Wiis

cIOSrev11:
Does not play new 001 games, does not play 002b games, maybe not disc channel compatible*

cIOSrev12:
Does not play new 001 games, does not play 002b games, not disc channel compatible*

cIOSrev13a:
Does not play new 001 games

cIOSrev13b:
Does not play new 001 games, does not play 002b games

cIOSrev14:
does not read the end of the 1st layer causing trouble for all DL games and maybe very big SL games

cIOSrev15:
not disc channel compatible*


*Also means not NeoGamma and SoftChip compatible see rev15 bug.

i will state 1MORE TIME that i can conferm cios38 rev15 is working on thediscchannel with Cioscorp. ok posting video as proof

 

[DigitalSquirrel]

Whoa whoa, will I have any problems if I just wanna use cios_rev15 with USBloaderGX? What is it broken with exactly? Will I be able to play regular games through the disk channel?

 

[FenrirWolf]

IOS249 won't interfere with your disc channel. What's meant is that it won't work if you're trying to use Rev15's DIP module for something like cioscorp.

 

[King Zargo]

What is so wrong about delivering negative feedback. What kind of developer doesn't want to hear what the users have to say about their product. Sure some of the feedback is a bit retarded but what if the guy gets a developing job he will get shit from his clients, users and boss.

 

[WiiPower]

i will state 1MORE TIME that i can conferm cios38 rev15 is working on thediscchannel with Cioscorp. ok posting video as proof

As long as you did not build a cioscorp with the rev15 dip plugin, i know you don't know what the problem is.

 

[Skizzo]

By your logic, Nintendo would have a very simple way of fighting homebrew & piracy. Simply send out a small group (how many have actually done what you've said in this thread?) of 'stoopid selfish childish' behaving members to diss all the developers of said apps and voilà, the end of homebrew and piracy!

No I think you will find the small group runs into thousands of posts over many boards. GBATEMP is not the only Wii board posting these revisions and by no means is it the largest. It represents a small amount of people that are actively using Homebrew so multiply the negative feedback here by 50X and you get an idea of how many negative replies Waninkoko recieves for his time and effort. One complaint is bad enough but thousands would certainly make him see that there is no point in carrying on helping a vast unnapreciative group of people who do nothing but moan when 99% of the time they cant get a game to work is actually down to them and nothing to do with him..

Fucking horseshit. I'm not going to waste my time compiling statistics, but I'd be more than willing to bet that the number of people using this new revision, or any other in the past, compared to the number of people (not the number of posts) complaining is much, much greater. Just out of curiosity, since you seem to know what's going on at all the other boards, how many of those did Wanin also post his goodbye forever letter to?

 

[trigger_ftu]

i will state 1MORE TIME that i can conferm cios38 rev15 is working on thediscchannel with Cioscorp. ok posting video as proof

As long as you did not build a cioscorp with the rev15 dip plugin, i know you don't know what the problem is.

1 i'm no retard and like he|_|_ if ppl start callin me noob. i know what the problem is.
2nd u stil havn't answered my question but no matter anymore. anyhoo screwit i'm off. seeing so many ppl ball about a build over 1 small issue and ppl depending on neogamma (my personal oppinion it's a POS)

 

[sweenish]

judging by that post, i'd say you're a little retarded.

 

[Skizzo]

1 i'm no retard

You'd have to convince me English wasn't your native language before I'd even consider believing that...

 

[trigger_ftu]

judging by that post, i'd say you're a little retarded.

QUOTE(trigger_ftu @ Nov 14 2009, 05:51 PM) 1 i'm no retard

You'd have to convince me English wasn't your native language before I'd even consider believing that...

well i don't see you guys offering a solution moreless offering to write a fix.but ya know what i don't care, not my problem.

wanin good work ya wanna leave, i can see why building things for personal use is better than haveing a thousand rageing morons flaim about how what you choose to do a fix with (what small time you have to do so) break another persons software that depends on ur main code. anyways if your ever in the states hit me up and we'll hit a bar.

 

[WiiPower]

i will state 1MORE TIME that i can conferm cios38 rev15 is working on thediscchannel with Cioscorp. ok posting video as proof

As long as you did not build a cioscorp with the rev15 dip plugin, i know you don't know what the problem is.

1 i'm no retard and like he|_|_ if ppl start callin me noob. i know what the problem is.
2nd u stil havn't answered my question but no matter anymore. anyhoo screwit i'm off. seeing so many ppl ball about a build over 1 small issue and ppl depending on neogamma (my personal oppinion it's a POS)

QUOTE(trigger_ftu @ Nov 15 2009, 12:51 AM)

A. i have Cioscorp 3.5 installed i just installed cios 38 rev 15 and backup games DO WORK ON THE DISC CHANNEL[...]

I don't say you are retarded, you just don't get the problem. You have cioscorp 3.5 installed which does not care at all which cIOS you have insatlled. Yes you can delete the cIOS and your cioscorp continues to work.

 

[Pakatus]

What is so wrong about delivering negative feedback. What kind of developer doesn't want to hear what the users have to say about their product. Sure some of the feedback is a bit retarded but what if the guy gets a developing job he will get shit from his clients, users and boss.

i'm a developer myself.
and to hear some retarded feedback..i'd better hope he pays me enough to hear it.

 

[trigger_ftu]

@wiipower

yes that is very true. but who's to say i don't have a 2nd wii here and playing around with it. or moreless have it implemented into cioscorp? anyhoo don't matter i'm goin to whoop a few ppl at MW2 on my ps3.

@Pakatus

i second that.

 

[MarioMadness]

i'd glad this cIOS causes 001 errors, we might see the end of that dreadful, awful, brickware also referred to as cIOSCRAP..sorry CORP

 

[Slimmmmmm]

Damn again.

I wish you were in contact with Hermes, maybe it would double the chance of your ideas/fixes being implemented in future cIOS.

Maybe it was the pressure by everyone for wanin to release asap, but tbh I can see how frustrating it must be for you WiiPower because I've saw you point out problems with other cIOS before release and when they do get released they still have the bugs that you warned about.

I can't see any instant appeal to jump on the rev15 bandwagon just now myself as I own originals of the DL games anyway.

This is a MASSIVE blow for those with little money who don't yet own a USB HDD, or for those unlucky enough to have bought one and it's not compatible. Shame.


What will you be concentrating on just now in the meantime WiiPower until the next cIOS ?

If you want to "back up" you games, buy a USB drive.
Stop complaining.
WiiPower is not god.
Stop complaining.
rev 15 is better than no rev 15.
Stop complaining.

I'm not complaining, if you've read my posts I think waninkokos work is great.
I have a USB drive, and I'm lucky it's 100% working with everything.
I don't think WiiPower is god, nor do I think waninkoko or any other coder is.
Rev 15 is NOT better than no rev15 for SOME people (learn how to read and understand)
I am only sympathizing with those who fall into this small group of people. I myself will always try to add my voice to the minorities if they have a valid point.

Now please stop going in every thread I go in, quoting me and then ending up getting pwn'd like in other threads, grow up a bit. Just because you don't like me is no reason to look like a childish idiot so often.

Me and waninkoko have talked a lot in the past and the guy knows how much I appreciate his efforts, and I'm one of those people that actually tells him to have a break and let people wait. (he knows this, so what do I care what a peon like you thinks) I'm not one of those people that hang around him 24/7 hoping he talks to me like some sort of dev groupie.
Tell me ...... can you taste his dinner ?

So I DO think it's great wanin spends time for people to get "free sh1t", but I ALSO think WiiPower is right and the cIOS is broken to some degree. How am I complaining by adding my opinion in this thread ?

 

[Deleted User]

well i too think waninkoko's work is good but for some odd reason i get errors running games idk is it broken

 

[Al_Yahud]

To all the ingrates out there, if you think you could do a better job, then why haven't you made your own cIOS?

Thanks Waininkoko - I and a lot of other people I know really appreciate your work. You're the best!

 

[madcapslaugh]

I have to say, this is very disheartening. It really sounds like the people working on this stuff are giving up on people that don't use a usb loader. I realize that was a natural evolutionary step but, they can't expect us all to use it. I'd say there's still a significant percentage of people that, like me, are softmodded and use discs. Now, I don't know these people but, I can't help but think that if we didn't have so many people working on so many different things we wouldn't have these problems. Is it really necessary to have like so many people working on so many cios's and so many different backup launchers? All this does is complicate the hell out of an already way too complicated process. I realize you're already being user friendly by just making this stuff available to the public and, it's not like we have any say or we pay you or anything. I'm just saying, this is absolutely getting to the point where people that don't have a Master's degree from MIT can't keep up. Nintendo keeps pumping out games that all have different AP or compatibility issues and each and every game requires a different type of fix that's getting almost impossible to fix. NSMB still doesn't work on softmod without the usb does it? Something doesn't give soon, I'm gonna take my wii back to factory default. I'd rather pay for the games than put up with all this headache and trouble.

why dont you just get a usb drive, even spending $40 on a drive will get you enough for 30 games at least.