Hardware Baseless Nintendo NX speculation thread

[gameboy]

I need to see if my Homebrew transfers over though. I can just pick up an old Wii and load my Wii and Gamecube games onto it, but I'd like to stick with just one console that has everything. Since Wii games on the eShop skip the Wii Menu I suspect the NX will strip down the Wii OS to the minimal amount required and have everything managed through the NX OS.

im sure the nx will be the most powerful and be the only system able to utilize its full power in games because it has nothing holding it back. NX OS will probably be very fluid and more organizable than ps4 and xb1 menus. Ill keep my wiiu just for full backward comp.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

I just want four things. Four simple things.

1) That the NX will be as powerful as a PS4 or more (just so games can be bigger and better... hopefully)
2) A traditional controller without any gimmicky B.S.
3) A proper OS for the home console than what Nintendo has used for the Wii U (can't even add a wallpaper)
4) Quality first and third party games.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I just want four things. Four simple things.

1) That the NX will be as powerful as a PS4 or more (just so games can be bigger and better... hopefully)
2) A traditional controller without any gimmicky B.S.
3) A proper OS for the home console than what Nintendo has used for the Wii U (can't even add a wallpaper)
4) Quality first and third party games.

This was posted waaaay back in October, but here

 

[gameboy]

I just want four things. Four simple things.

1) That the NX will be as powerful as a PS4 or more (just so games can be bigger and better... hopefully)
2) A traditional controller without any gimmicky B.S.
3) A proper OS for the home console than what Nintendo has used for the Wii U (can't even add a wallpaper)
4) Quality first and third party games.

1.NX WILL be more powerful than ps4 and cheaper than ps4k/xb1 AND utilize its FULL power no inferior versions holding it back.
2.wiiu had non-gimmick controllers WITH options for gimmicky and different cheap brand controller
3.xb ps UI are garbage even with themes. 3ds has the best ui and themes
4.quality has always been first for Nintendo. no day one or mandatory patches (except pokemon lumiose save crash) no crazy glitches in comparison. fluid movement and controls.(most ps4/xb1 games feel like the characters are wearing heavy armor constanty)

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when nintendo filed the patent for the supplemental computing device it insured that no other comany can steal their idea without having to pay them to us that idea or force them to make their own more complicated designs.

in 2013 3ds was sued and lost $150mil for using whomevers patnt for 3d. hence came superstable3d, no extra payments for use of old3ds 3d.

im sure 3d will be a gimmick again. Zelda BotW in 3d

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

quality has always been first for Nintendo

If you call quality games like:
Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival
Mario Party 10
Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash
Wii Sports Club

Hum.. okay.

 

[gameboy]

If you call quality games like:
Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival
Mario Party 10
Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash
Wii Sports Club

Hum.. okay.

They were making great 3ds games and were already in nx developent in late 2014. yea some wiiu games sucked but they werent broken ala tony hawk 5

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its tough to diss nintendo first party games when i cant name any good micosoft or sony first party games.

halo, fable, legend of dragoon, the order 1886?

 

[Futurdreamz]

If you call quality games like:
Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival
Mario Party 10
Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash
Wii Sports Club

Hum.. okay.

They are bug-free and well-built, even if they're a tad stupid.

 

[gameboy]

is it possible we see the nx first in July at chinajoy (chinese e3/tgs), try to capture that audience too?

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

They are bug-free and well-built, even if they're a tad stupid.

Wow. Damage control knows no bounds with its fanboys.

 

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1.NX WILL be more powerful than ps4 and cheaper than ps4k/xb1 AND utilize its FULL power no inferior versions holding it back.
2.wiiu had non-gimmick controllers WITH options for gimmicky and different cheap brand controller
3.xb ps UI are garbage even with themes. 3ds has the best ui and themes
4.quality has always been first for Nintendo. no day one or mandatory patches (except pokemon lumiose save crash) no crazy glitches in comparison. fluid movement and controls.(most ps4/xb1 games feel like the characters are wearing heavy armor constanty)

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

when nintendo filed the patent for the supplemental computing device it insured that no other comany can steal their idea without having to pay them to us that idea or force them to make their own more complicated designs.

in 2013 3ds was sued and lost $150mil for using whomevers patnt for 3d. hence came superstable3d, no extra payments for use of old3ds 3d.

im sure 3d will be a gimmick again. Zelda BotW in 3d

LOL whos paying you to think like that!

1. the NX will be about as powerful as the PS3 and xbox 360
2. wii U came with yet another gimmicky controller out of the box and made you buy a standard controller separately (pro controller)
3. The UI on wii u and 3ds is old, clunky and slow as balls, not to mention limited.
4. The wiiU came with a monstrous day one patch which took hours and hours to download which Nintendo warned people about who bought them for xmas for their kids on release because you couldn't play it until the patch was downloaded and installed. Xmas was one hell of a bottle neck to grab it lol.

Nintendo has gone down the shitter.

 

[Futurdreamz]

LOL whos paying you to think like that!

1. the NX will be about as powerful as the PS3 and xbox 360
2. wii U came with yet another gimmicky controller out of the box and made you buy a standard controller separately (pro controller)
3. The UI on wii u and 3ds is old, clunky and slow as balls, not to mention limited.
4. The wiiU came with a monstrous day one patch which took hours and hours to download which Nintendo warned people about who bought them for xmas for their kids on release because you couldn't play it until the patch was downloaded and installed. Xmas was one hell of a bottle neck to grab it lol.

Nintendo has gone down the shitter.

Wow that's some selective memory

1. ONE core of the Wii U can emulate the Xbox one's entire CPU. Developers were successfully porting games to it without even touching the other two. The NX will be even more powerful.
2. You're saying that like it's a bad thing. Everything the Pro Controller can do the gamepad can do, and it's touchscreen is fucking awesome for off-tv play and even for the games that support it. It made finding unlockables in Lego batman 2 dead easy, and the DS VC is impossible without it.
3. That's more subjective opinion than fact. Nintendo has created the OS from scratch while Xbox uses a port of Windows and Playstation uses a Sony reference. It has improved dramatically with software updates - to the point that you would have to be pedantic to find issue with it.
4. And water is wet. Both the Xbox One and PS4 had very big day-one updates too, and a lot more of their games force you to download massive updates the first time you play it.

Your point one is misinformation, two and three are subjective, and the fourth one is hypocrisy.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

ONE core of the Wii U can emulate the Xbox one's entire CPU.

Yet Wii U games feel very limited.

You're saying that like it's a bad thing.

I agree with him that it's a bad thing. The GamePad which is an outdated pretend-tablet should have been sold as an optional controller because if that had been the case I wouldn't have ever bothered with it.

Everything the Pro Controller can do the gamepad can do,

Except 80hrs of battery and being super light-weight.

and it's touchscreen is fucking awesome for off-tv play and even for the games that support it.

Resistive touchscreen not really that great because it limits the functions on said touchscreen and the screen itself isn't that great. The picture quality only runs at SD 480p and the colours look and feel very washed and messy. Not anywhere as detailed as on an HDTV screen.

Both the Xbox One and PS4 had very big day-one updates too,

The day one update of Wii U was beyond dreadful but to make things better, Mega64 cured that wound with this video of theirs:

 

[grossaffe]

Yet Wii U games feel very limited.

Your feeling is a personal opinion. I have not felt that limitation.

I agree with him that it's a bad thing. The GamePad which is an outdated pretend-tablet should have been sold as an optional controller because if that had been the case I wouldn't have ever bothered with it.

It would not have worked if it was optional. By integrating it into the system, it is a guarantee to developers that every Wii U user will have it and they can thusly design their games around it without fear of limiting their potential customer-base to only those who bought it. The ONLY way for it to work is to integrate it.

Except 80hrs of battery and being super light-weight.

Yeah, that's really important for my three-day gaming sessions.

Resistive touchscreen not really that great because it limits the functions on said touchscreen and the screen itself isn't that great. The picture quality only runs at SD 480p and the colours look and feel very washed and messy. Not anywhere as detailed as on an HDTV screen.

Resistive touch is higher precision than capacitive touch. Is that more important than multi-touch? I don't know, but it's something that had to be considered when making design decisions. As for the screen... what do you expect? It's a 5" screen that streams picture wirelessly with imperceptible lag. At that size, 480p is hardly something to be up in arms about, and if it tried to do HD, the time it takes to transmit the image data would greatly expand introducing a latency which is much less acceptable than a lower resolution for a screen of that size, not to mention the additional strain on the GPU having to render two HD images.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

Your feeling is a personal opinion. I have not felt that limitation.

Good for you.

It would not have worked if it was optional.

Wrong. It would have as they would have to rework the game to work with traditional controllers than a gimmicky outdated controller.

Yeah, that's really important for my three-day gaming sessions.

If you're fine holding a heavy controller that has a short battery then that's up to you.

Resistive touch is higher precision than capacitive touch.

Capacitive touch is more accurate but Nintendo's a cheapskate so they'll always go for the cheaper option.

 

[grossaffe]

Wrong. It would have as they would have to rework the game to work with traditional controllers than a gimmicky outdated controller.

No, not wrong. You didn't even refute my point, but instead went on about how you wish developers didn't develop for it. Nintendo did like the gamepad and thought it to be important. If it wasn't included and integrated into the system, it would have died a quick death like the Kinect.

If you're fine holding a heavy controller that has a short battery then that's up to you.

It's hardly a weight-lifting exercise with the controller. What are you doing, holding it straight out away from your body?

Capacitive touch is more accurate but Nintendo's a cheapskate so they'll always go for the cheaper option.

No, it's not. Capacitive touch screens have lower touch resolution and are more liable to record false touches.

 

[gameboy]

Te wiiu gamepad is easily the best controller of the three newer gen consoles. PS4 only offers about 4 hours of battery, the touchpad was only used in Infamous for opening 5 prison gates, it looks like shit and the analog sticks are easily the worst of the three with a shitty feel and not as p or fluid. ONly good thing of the ps4 was the triggers.

The xbox one controllers are based on batteries LMAO and only offer about 4 hrs of battery without a screen. You can buy the pdps xbox charge pack seperate but those dont last long either. the best way to go with batteries is a large capacity battery ONLY avalable with online retailers. Although the analog sticks are the best of the three, the controller itself is shitty and made of clunky looking cheap plastic and button presses remind me of those old MAD CATZ controllers.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I also should mention that in regards to the NX being "as powerful as xbox 360 or ps3," the Wii U is already a little bit more powerful than a PS3, I don't see why Nintendo would take a step BACKWARDS in developing the NX. There's really no way that the NX won't be at least as powerful as the XBox One

 

[gameboy]

you dont lose billions and not learn anything. okay so they change up their infrastructure and network capabilities for online play for 3rd party games to make it the similar and easy to develop for, now what? Now nintendo has to offer 3rd party devs a console that has the power to not only compete but to make them put that no1 on their to do list. AMD already announced new gpus being developed for 3 companies based on the new custom polaris builds, okay parity complete...

If the ps4k is just a ps4 but can play 4k bluray and 4k netflix then why buy it if the games for it are gonna run a little smoother and a little better looking? You still have to pay $400 for that VR headset regardless and ps4 textures are already #1 in the home console industry. When you think about ps4og all it had over the xbox1 was the price and the resolution. The specs are a little higher but xbox locked 30% of their power away for the ui.

so onto their gimmicks, ps4 touchpad and camera... useless and completely dead. xbox one camera... abandoned by xbox as it was too expensive and nobody cared for it. The nx gimmicks, yet to be seen...

 

[Futurdreamz]

If you want a generic console with a generic controller and generic games, get a PS4. The purpose of the Wii U and NX is to make games that are fun to play with and to encourage new ideas and methods for playing the game. If I wanted fancy-smanshy graphics I'd watch a movie or play a game on a PC. All criticism of the Wii U seems to boil down to it "not being a Playstation or Xbox," and everything that a Playstation or Xbox can do, a decent PC can do better. So either take the time and money to get a proper generic high graphics PC or cough up the change for a generic "high graphics" console, but either way Nintendo will do it's own thing and you can either accept it or nitpick.


The vast majority of games out there can either be played on the Wii U or PC, and most of what's left you can play on a PSNow - capable device like a TV or Bluray player.

 

[gameboy]

If you want a generic console with a generic controller and generic games, get a PS4. The purpose of the Wii U and NX is to make games that are fun to play with and to encourage new ideas and methods for playing the game. If I wanted fancy-smanshy graphics I'd watch a movie or play a game on a PC. All criticism of the Wii U seems to boil down to it "not being a Playstation or Xbox," and everything that a Playstation or Xbox can do, a decent PC can do better. So either take the time and money to get a proper generic high graphics PC or cough up the change for a generic "high graphics" console, but either way Nintendo will do it's own thing and you can either accept it or nitpick.


The vast majority of games out there can either be played on the Wii U or PC, and most of what's left you can play on a PSNow - capable device like a TV or Bluray player.

im a video game fanboy so im not usually biased on anything xbox/wii/ps/pc but i grew up on the console exclusives war and now that it practically doesnt exist, its about specs this and that all with the same damn game.

'well i have xbox and i can play the witcher!'..
'Well I Have ps4 And i can play the witcher at slightly better settings!!'...
'well i have pc and i can the witcher at slightly the best settings!!!'....

'well i have xbox and i can play metal gear 5!'..
'Well I Have ps4 And i can play metal gear 5 at slightly better settings!!'...
'well i have pc and i can play metal gear 5 at slightly the best settings!!!'....

'well i have wiiu and i can play mariokart at its only settings'
'wiiu is gay, mariokart is gay, your gay.balhblahblah'