Gaming Are flashcarts illegal?

[Deleted User]

who gives a shit!?

buy them before the socialist, capitalistic pigs who are running our country make em illegal!

>socialist, capitalistic pigs

AAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Capitalism =/= Socialism, they're very different.

 

[Kwartel]

We don't put the backups onto the flashcart though, we put it on a memory card

When you see it that way, they should ban micro sd cards!
The AK2i is illigal since Danny Phantom is copyrighted!

 

[ShadowSoldier]

We don't put the backups onto the flashcart though, we put it on a memory card

When you see it that way, they should ban micro sd cards!
The AK2i is illigal since Danny Phantom is copyrighted!

So is SuperCard then because it used Fish Tycoon. You can't single out one card.

In some countries, flashcards are illegal. In other countries, they're not [like Canada, HOLLA]. But worldwide, downloading roms is illegal.

 

[Daku93]

I think in Germany all devices that bypass copy protection are illegal.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

I think in Germany all devices that bypass copy protection are illegal.

So... computers?

 

[Deleted User]

I think in Germany all devices that bypass copy protection are illegal.

As you understand german, you can read this: http://www.gulli.com/internet/filesharing/...es-urheberrecht
That means that one backup with breaking the copy protection is legal

 

[DJ91990]

Okay I have had it with this!

Flashcarts are NOT against the law! (Although it should be noted that the R4DS is illegal to sell in Europe)
They do not infringe any rights of any person! They DO bypass Anti-Piracy methods to work but these devices are intended for what they say on the back of the box:

Here is what the back of my Acekard2i box says;

Perfect Compatibility. No need to convert, No need to flash!
Save file is written directly to TF card. No need to manually select save size, no data loss.
Automatic DLDI patching. Run homebrew programs without converting.
Support soft-reset, Download Play and WiFi gaming!
Support SDHC TF card. Virtually unlimited storage size!
Support any brand of TF, with no slowdown!
Support Action Replay cheats. Buid-in editor!(Okay this one is a LIE!!! Where is the editor!?)
Low power consumption for longer operational time!

Okay the feature you need to point out is;
HOMEBREW!

Flashcards are meant for these things;
Running Homebrew, Playing BACKUPS, playing multi-media.

While it is true that BACKUPS = ROMS, BACKUPS are ROMS that the user has dumped themselves from their own collection. Nintendo just wants everyone to think these devices are illegal because of what they can do...play backups. Nintendo wants you to lose your cartridges so you buy another one! That's how they make their money!

tl;dr

Flashcards are not against the law; it is what the end user does with the device. It is meant for playing home-brew and multi-media as well as personal backups of the games the end user owns.

If we as a nation want to outlaw Flashcards, why don't we also outlaw these things;
PC DVD/R BLUERAY/R drives
TIVO (Or other DTVR devices)
MP3 Players
Camcorders
The Internet

You see? It is what the end user does, not what the device can do. I should be a lawyer or something.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Okay I have had it with this!

Flashcarts are NOT against the law! (Although it should be noted that the R4DS is illegal to sell in Europe)
They do not infringe any rights of any person! They DO bypass Anti-Piracy methods to work but these devices are intended for what they say on the back of the box:

Here is what the back of my Acekard2i box says;

Perfect Compatibility. No need to convert, No need to flash!
Save file is written directly to TF card. No need to manually select save size, no data loss.
Automatic DLDI patching. Run homebrew programs without converting.
Support soft-reset, Download Play and WiFi gaming!
Support SDHC TF card. Virtually unlimited storage size!
Support any brand of TF, with no slowdown!
Support Action Replay cheats. Buid-in editor!(Okay this one is a LIE!!! Where is the editor!?)
Low power consumption for longer operational time!

Okay the feature you need to point out is;
HOMEBREW!

Flashcards are meant for these things;
Running Homebrew, Playing BACKUPS, playing multi-media.

While it is true that BACKUPS = ROMS, BACKUPS are ROMS that the user has dumped themselves from their own collection. Nintendo just wants everyone to think these devices are illegal because of what they can do...play backups. Nintendo wants you to lose your cartridges so you buy another one! That's how they make their money!

tl;dr

Flashcards are not against the law; it is what the end user does with the device. It is meant for playing home-brew and multi-media as well as personal backups of the games the end user owns.

Yeah dude... they're against the law in some countries.

Also, you point out some features as the Homebrew, look at the very first thing:
"Perfect Compatibility. No need to convert, No need to flash!"

Referring to ROMs...

Fuck it, everybody just move to Canada. We have lots of land that can take in a decent amount, just don't bring your hairy women or your countries debt with you.

 

[Vigilante]

Yeah but depends if you have the real game then you can download it and play it that legal

 

[Rydian]

Yeah but depends if you have the real game then you can download it and play it that legal
US code, title 17, section 117

it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided:
[...]
(2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful.The law says you can make a copy. YOU can MAKE a copy.
Downloading somebody else's over the internet is not making it.
Hell, copyright.gov has an FAQ that covers that.
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-fairuse.html#p2p
QUOTE

Uploading or downloading works protected by copyright without the authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of the copyright owner's exclusive rights of reproduction and/or distribution. Anyone found to have infringed a copyrighted work may be liable for statutory damages up to $30,000 for each work infringed and, if willful infringement is proven by the copyright owner, that amount may be increased up to $150,000 for each work infringed. In addition, an infringer of a work may also be liable for the attorney's fees incurred by the copyright owner to enforce his or her rights.

So no, downloading ROMs is illegal no matter if you own a copy of the game or not.

 

[Daku93]

I think in Germany all devices that bypass copy protection are illegal.
As you understand german, you can read this: http://www.gulli.com/internet/filesharing/...es-urheberrecht
That means that one backup with breaking the copy protection is legal


When you read the Article you mentioned 'till the eng you will see the following:

Grundsätzlich dürfte sich jeder Besitzer eines geschützten Werkes eine Kopie für sich selbst anfertigen. Bedauerlicherweise verbietet das Urheberrecht das Umgehen eines wirksamen Kopierschutzes. Da zum gegenwärtigen Zeitpunkt nahezu alle Datenträger über einen - ein irgendeiner Form - wirksamen Kopierschutz verfügen, sieht sich der Verbraucher dem Problem einer rechtmäßigen Privatkopie gegenüber.

That means that it's forbidden to bypass copy protection even if you want to make a backup just for yourself

QUOTE(Daku93 @ Nov 9 2010, 01:45 PM)

I think in Germany all devices that bypass copy protection are illegal.

So... computers?

Yeah... I should have said bypassing copy protection in general is illegal. If you use your Computer to bypass copy protection it's illegal.

And all flashcards have to bypass nintendo's copy protection in order to be loaded by the console.