Hacking Anyone have any news whatsoever about Gateway 3DS multi-ROM?

[snk4ever]

Nobody knows if they will use FAT32, another known FS or even just their own little software to binary transfer files one after the other with only a little index added.
I think it will not be FAT32, because what's the point of limiting yourself when you don't have to ?

 

[placebooooo]

I feel as if this is starting to become off topic; did anyone here any news about the new update already? early days of new year sigh*

 

[redkeyboard]

They said early days of 2014. There's 365 days this year.

Judging by that statement, they can release it in March and it'll still fit their definition.

 

[Subtle Demise]

Nobody knows if they will use FAT32, another known FS or even just their own little software to binary transfer files one after the other with only a little index added.
I think it will not be FAT32, because what's the point of limiting yourself when you don't have to ?

Actually in one of their news posts it specifically said fat32 multi-rom.

 

[longgt]

It has been 2 weeks since the multirom teaser, and yet, they didn't give us any other news Perhaps we have to wait till 31st June, which still be considered as "early days of new year"

 

[Commoner]

Then here is a issue. What if like the ps3 scene, they start making games where single filesizes are bigger then 4gb.... Trim or not, the single file is going to break the fat32 limit

I don't think this is a likely situation as the Nintendo 3ds itself uses FAT32. You can check the file system on the SD Card in your 3ds SD slot to confirm this. Nintendo would thus have to go through a lot of trouble to introduce some new file system for this to happen.

If Gateway supports exFAT (and hence >32GB cards) it shouldn't be a problem.

The reason Nintendo does not use exFAT is because it is proprietary and licensed by Microsoft.

It is actually very likely that Gateway will just use whatever file system the 3ds itself uses. Using a file system that the 3ds does not natively support would probably require a lot of additional coding work for the Gateway Team and additional processing for the Gateway FPGA.

Even if they were willing to go the extra mile, Gateway seems intent on maintaining some semblance of being legal by claiming that they are intended to be used only with backup copies of games that people already own. By using exFAT they would in fact be in violation of Microsoft copyright patents thus stripping them of any pretense that their cart is legal.

 

[mznova]

We should be patient and let them test the things they need to test, however much time they need. Better to have a bug-free firmware than rush a buggy one and then you guys complain about how lazy gateway is for overlooking bugs, etc.

My honest opinion on what's happening is that gateway was confident they could insert brick code that couldn't possibly trigger on real gateways and they built 2.0 on top of that. The rare occurrences of bricks in 2.0b2 meant they needed to relook their code and debug whatever triggered it so that the final version is safe(r). It's also possible a different type of brick code was inserted inside the multirom feature and that is completely untested in the public so it needs to be looked at with extra care. I'm guessing the extra weeks since their announcement were used to receive bricked 3ds' and debugging. I doubt they'd completely remove the brick code because the continuation of their business depends on it.

 

[crazyace2011]

if they drop the damn brick code all together then there is no need to be careful. just focus on what matters to make gateway a enjoyable flashcard stop being babies and focus on the potential that the gateway card is capable of.

 

[jrr6415sun]

there are 600 usa 3ds roms. I only have 124 of them until others come out in the future that I want.

There are not 600 USA 3ds roms unless you are counting doubles of the same game

 

[jrr6415sun]

I feel as if this is starting to become off topic; did anyone here any news about the new update already? early days of new year sigh*

There isn't even a topic to go off topic with. Can you just be patient and WAIT? Don't expect it to be released this month. March will probably be the month. Expect another news update from them saying they need more time.

My guess is they're trying to fix their brick code

 

[tHciNc]

Ironic that gbatemps main sponser nds card actually links to roms on their gateway page, and link was frontpaged the other day http://www.nds-card.com/ProShow.asp?ProID=501
There are less than 300 us roms, you mean there are 600+ roms all up

 

[crazyace2011]

There are not 600 USA 3ds roms unless you are counting doubles of the same game

forgot the demo games scratch those. sorry around 208 usa games. I was looking at the numbers 3ds0001 - 3ds0600

 

[kirillov]

There isn't even a topic to go off topic with. Can you just be patient and WAIT? Don't expect it to be released this month. March will probably be the month. Expect another news update from them saying they need more time.

My guess is they're trying to fix their brick code

DIN DIN DIN DIN DIN!

 

[Kei00]

Seriously I don't mind waiting for testing and improving GW freatures... but I'm sure they are focusing in improving brick code instead of testing multi-ROM.

 

[F417H]

if they drop the damn brick code all together then there is no need to be careful. just focus on what matters to make gateway a enjoyable flashcard stop being babies and focus on the potential that the gateway card is capable of.

They still need a way of protecting their warez, if this doesn't happen it's likely they'll drop into obscurity considering the size of their outfit. Take SupercardDSTWO for example, highest ticket DS card on the market... I can imagine only has a fraction of the sales of R4 cards etc. DSTWO's advantage always being its processing power to support other functions like emulation.
I'm fully in support of GW at this point, a drop in business might take them out of the running all together if they can't continue to be the only ones offering their hard work.

 

[the-green]

In their MultiROM video presentation I saw between the games 3D donkey Kong ! this one is a 4GB size game, so they have the solution to 4GB games, don't worry.

 

[Xzi]

In their MultiROM video presentation I saw between the games 3D donkey Kong ! this one is a 4GB size game, so they have the solution to 4GB games, don't worry.

Well the solution is to trim your ROMs. There's no ROM out there currently that won't fit and/or work on a FAT32 filesystem.

 

[petspeed]

On the Wii using fat32 for your game partition the software (the loaders and Wii backup manager) just split the wbfs file so each part doesn't exceed 4gb. I guess that could also be done for 3DS multirom if needed in the future.

 

[Jackall4BDN]

Awesome, I finally found someone like myself! Not only do I have every EUR 3DS rom, I also have every DS rom for every region, and every US GBA, GBC, and GB rom as well.

i god, i have finally found my people *tears* xD

 

[SpaceJump]

2.0 is coming soon, really soon...