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[KingdomBlade]

... If a world contains 95% water for instance, the dominant race would be some kind of aquatic creature and creationism / evolution would go from there...

And I don't really believe in the theory of evolution. It is kind of an athiest theory. Most of it tries to prove that not God made all things, but the world itself did. They try to say the universe just happened. Well, somewhat that goes against the idea that "Every action has an equal reaction". Well, look at it this way. God being all powerful and strong, he created a really beatiful, fantastic, I can't even describe it, Universe. Now, the Big Bang theory doesn't go with this idea of science. They theorized that this big mass just exploded out of no where and made the universe.

So, in conclusion, the Evolution theory is more of an idea to turn peopel away from God. Well, yes chimps have 99% of their DNA matching ours, but what about that 1%. I mean, there are lots of species that are closely related to each other, but we don't say that they came from each other.

Now, back on topic. Yes, you have some points there. The other argument I could lay against you is that the Bible said "his image" not images.

So, it is an ongoing debate.

I got that from your earlier posts, notice I said "creationism / evolution".

I'm taking the middle ground here, and you can believe whichever of the two you want. I'm not going to push what I believe off onto you. I will point out (as others have) that evolution / Big Bang Theory doesn't turn people away from God, because if theoretically the process was true then something must have started it and that could easily be a God or divine being of some sort.

As for "his image", now we're wandering into the territory of validity of the Bible and I feel we're going a little off-topic for a discussion about life on other worlds.

(To clarify my views I'm a scientist, I believe in the evidence in front of me when it comes to evolution, I have no idea if there's a God upstairs or not, and frankly I don't care. But I'm sensitive to your views and trying to think objectively around the issue, because I'm open minded like that.)

I feel your trying to insult me. First of all, this is one thing to let you know.

Open mindeness can lead to liberalism(if you are liberal, I still respect you though for being human, for all humans made in God's image have dignity, meaning I must respect you).

And, actually this topic is also a religious debate, and for being a scientist I thought you would have known that. And, yes the Big Bang theory does go towards Athiasm(Sorry if I spelled that wrong). In the Bible, it says he created all things as if spontanious. The Big Bang theory is an ignorant theory because it tries to prove either that God is not as all mighty as the universe(which doesn't make sense because he did create the universe) or it tries to prove that God did not exist and that a huge explosion caused the universe to form.

Oh.. my.. fuck. Your argument fails. On so many levels.

According to you: Atheism, liberalism, evolution, Darwinism, Physics, Science, Big Bang Theory, Behavioral Science, are all wrong. Your entire argument is based on the notion that all of these are wrong. Which they are not.

So apparently, atheism is wrong? And every single scientific theory that mildly contradicts against the literal interpretation of God is wrong? So what you're saying is, that "God" couldn't have just been the one that made the Big Bang or something? That seems perfectly plausible to me even though I don't really believe in it.

 

[RoyalCardMan]

I can really feel that there are some athiests on this thread(no offense). So, since people discriminate the Christian religion so much, might as well not most on this topic anymore.

Edit: AND if people read my post, I said Open Mindeness CAN lead to liberalism. People are always putting words in my mouth...

 

[nryn99]

just like how you discriminate science theories.

 

[RoyalCardMan]

just like how you discriminate science theories.

When did I ever discriminate the Scientific Theories?

All I said was they do, in fact, try to disprove that God does not exist. If you have looked in detail into the Big Bang theory, it states that scientists have only certain theories about how the Universe was born, but in all the theories, none of them concluded that God was the origin of the Universe, or the creator of the Universe.

I mean, do you have a document, or have seen one, that has the idea that God created the Universe?(related to the Big Band theory)

 

[Deleted_171835]

just like how you discriminate science theories.

When did I ever discriminate the Scientific Theories?

All I said was they do, in fact, try to disprove that God does not exist. If you have looked in detail into the Big Bang theory, it states that scientists have only certain theories about how the Universe was born, but in all the theories, none of them concluded that God was the origin of the Universe, or the creator of the Universe.

I mean, do you have a document, or have seen one, that has the idea that God created the Universe?

The Big Bang Theory seeks to explain what happened right after the origin of the universe.

It doesn't try to explain the origin of the universe itself.

 

[RoyalCardMan]

just like how you discriminate science theories.

When did I ever discriminate the Scientific Theories?

All I said was they do, in fact, try to disprove that God does not exist. If you have looked in detail into the Big Bang theory, it states that scientists have only certain theories about how the Universe was born, but in all the theories, none of them concluded that God was the origin of the Universe, or the creator of the Universe.

I mean, do you have a document, or have seen one, that has the idea that God created the Universe?

The Big Bang Theory seeks to explain what happened right after the origin of the universe.

It doesn't try to explain the origin of the universe itself.

Please, read my posts carefully for once. I said have you seen a Big Bang document or read one that has the THEORY of the conclusion that God did create the Universe.

Please, take a moment to read.

And, yes it does seek to find the origin. If you look into more detail about the Big Bang theory, you would have understood my evidence.

 

[KingdomBlade]

I can really feel that there are some athiests on this thread(no offense). So, since people discriminate the Christian religion so much, might as well not most on this topic anymore.

Edit: AND if people read my post, I said Open Mindeness CAN lead to liberalism. People are always putting words in my mouth...

Uh, and if I'm atheist? Is that supposed to be insulting or something?

And so what if Open Mindedness can lead to liberalism? Is there a problem with that?

Also, I agree with Soul's post.

 

[nryn99]

woot i though you wasn't gonna post anymore.

but yes. you're setting your roots deep into religion.
i didn't really want to join the argument. but you're just a die hard god fan. (yes i just said that).
you try to disprove all of other theories because they don't have god in them.

i'm not saying believing in god is wrong. but you're too much.

 

[RoyalCardMan]

I can really feel that there are some athiests on this thread(no offense). So, since people discriminate the Christian religion so much, might as well not most on this topic anymore.

Edit: AND if people read my post, I said Open Mindeness CAN lead to liberalism. People are always putting words in my mouth...

Uh, and if I'm atheist? Is that supposed to be insulting or something?

And so what if Open Mindedness can lead to liberalism? Is there a problem with that?

Also, I agree with Soul's post.

No, it was not meant to be insulting. I was only concluding that we have different point of views.

Yes and no, on that question. Sometimes, open-mindeness can lead to questioning moral and even trying to change it.

That is fine that you agree with Soul.


EDIT: STOP SNEAKING POSTS!

Religion and Science are a mix. How is it to much? I am only trying to prove that some things that scientists say are more ignorance than fact.

What ever you meant, I don't know how to respond.

 

[AlanJohn]

I don't get it.
How the f*ck did a simple question lead to this.
Mods please lock.

 

[Shinigami357]

Wow... What retardedness is this? Seriously?

 

[Depravo]

This thread was supposed to be about space aliens - NOT Hitler or Christian dogma.

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