13 Russians, 3 businesses indicted by Mueller/Rosenstein in connection to Trump

[the_randomizer]

Aw it's okay, sorry for the uncomfortable question.

Don't apologize. I just have my reasons. I don't feel comfortable because having conservative beliefs and/or not having any kind of liberal belief is a crime punishable by public humiliation. I dare not express why I prefer one view over the other due to the fact I sense that there are people on here who hate my guts as is, due to recent actions. I'd best just... uh, be on my way. I won't name names, but I feel a sense of dread for daring to even express non-liberal beliefs, people strongly dislike conservative political stances on here anyway, it's tantamount to criminal activity. If you want more info, I wish people to PM me instead.

 

[kuwanger]

If Bernie got his way as a true populist, the US would've become stronger as a country, not weaker as we are now.

That's the core of it, though. Republicans would have still had a strong hold on the House/Senate and currently D/R infighting means that opposing party Congress/President gets very little done as neither side wants the other to claim credit. Add to that that most the Democrats in Congress do not support Bernie's populist agenda*, and I think he'd see the same warm reception that the GOP had had towards Trump.

The Russian botfarms were also trying to frame Bernie and Trump as having basically the same policies, which was completely false.

That's an interesting thing I hadn't heard. Could you link me to a report outlining that?

* How much of the US population is for legalizing marijuana (or at least making it a State issue)? How many American support DACA? How many Americans want more gun regulation**? Pretty much across the board, there's a sizable majority (70%+) that support a lot of positions that Congress is unwilling to budge on. There's probably several other things that can be pointed to that have populist support which I don't see Congress moving on even with a very charismatic leader.

** People might not agree on things like the assault rifle ban, but they do tend to heavily agree on applying the same rules at gun shows as other places, limiting access to guns to those who have mental illness, and making sure current regulations are actually being enforced. There's also, undoubtedly, disagreement on the exact language, exact rules, etc to spell out these new regulations, but the general sentiment is clearly there with specific proposals having strong support.

 

[Xzi]

That's the core of it, though. Republicans would have still had a strong hold on the House/Senate and currently D/R infighting means that opposing party Congress/President gets very little done as neither side wants the other to claim credit. Add to that that most the Democrats in Congress do not support Bernie's populist agenda*, and I think he'd see the same warm reception that the GOP had had towards Trump.

Trump has the ability to get a lot done right now. He can't because his entire administration is a disorganized shitshow. That's not surprising given he has no governing or legislative experience, but there's no way things would be the same under any other president.

That's an interesting thing I hadn't heard. Could you link me to a report outlining that?

TBH it may have been many real Trump supporters claiming that as well, to try and sway Bernie voters who were angry at his primary loss. I can find stuff that briefly mentions these comparisons, but no articles specifically about that.

* How much of the US population is for legalizing marijuana (or at least making it a State issue)? How many American support DACA? How many Americans want more gun regulation**? Pretty much across the board, there's a sizable majority (70%+) that support a lot of positions that Congress is unwilling to budge on. There's probably several other things that can be pointed to that have populist support which I don't see Congress moving on even with a very charismatic leader.

Not moving on this stuff is different from directly attacking it. Thankfully weed legalization will continue moving through the states, and DACA was upheld by the courts.

 

[DeslotlCL]

Don't apologize. I just have my reasons. I don't feel comfortable because having conservative beliefs and/or not having any kind of liberal belief is a crime punishable by public humiliation. I dare not express why I prefer one view over the other due to the fact I sense that there are people on here who hate my guts as is, due to recent actions. I'd best just... uh, be on my way. I won't name names, but I feel a sense of dread for daring to even express non-liberal beliefs, people strongly dislike conservative political stances on here anyway, it's tantamount to criminal activity. If you want more info, I wish people to PM me instead.

Don't be afraid of sharing your thoughts, i can be an asshole sometimes, but in no way i will judge someone, no matter what they believe or think about. Of course i could get upset if someone hate or dislike, non straight people for example, but i wont judge him and will try to be as polite as possible.

Anyway, sorry again. You didnt have to reply back so for the third time, sorry for making that question

 

[the_randomizer]

Don't be afraid of sharing your thoughts, i can be an asshole sometimes, but in no way i will judge someone, no matter what they believe or think about. Of course i could get upset if someone hate or dislike, non straight people for example, but i wont judge him and will try to be as polite as possible.

Anyway, sorry again. You didnt have to reply back so for the third time, sorry for making that question

Don't be sorry, I've just had bad experiences in the past, that's all.

 

[DeslotlCL]

Don't be sorry, I've just had bad experiences in the past, that's all.

That's why im still telling you sorry for the love of everything that is good xD

 

[Deleted User]

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mother Ruſsia is comiŋ!

 

[the_randomizer]

That's why im still telling you sorry for the love of everything that is good xD

You've done nothing wrong though.

 

[matpower]

Good, this is hopefully something everyone will support. We need to send the message to the world that our elections are our business and our business alone, not Russia's.

You should tell that to every country where the US decided to meddle in.

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

You should tell that to every country where the US decided to meddle in.

I'm not trying to say the US has never done it themselves, but that doesn't mean we should just bend over when Russia joins in.

 

[mikey420]

There was already political division since Bush, I don't see this as being any worse than usual. I just didn't want another Clinton in office. Sorry, not sorry, I never agreed with her in any way, all because she was a Clinton. Too bad there weren't other candidates who weren't complete douchebags.

Too bad you don't know how to write in. You don't have to vote for either side. And before you say it's just a waist of your vote just stop because it's exactly that thought process that keeps the sheeple in this loop of pseudo democracy....

 

[the_randomizer]

Too bad you don't know how to write in. You don't have to vote for either side. And before you say it's just a waist of your vote just stop because it's exactly that thought process that keeps the sheeple in this loop of pseudo democracy....

Gee, thank you so bloody much for assuming that you know everything there is to know about me, no really, I appreciate it. I'll be sure to take your advice more seriously from here on out. Not.

*Bending over* Please sir, may I have another?

Gimme a break.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

You should tell that to every country where the US decided to meddle in.

Amen

 

[Xzi]

I'm not trying to say the US has never done it themselves, but that doesn't mean we should just bend over when Russia joins in.

Also, Putin is a dictator. Nobody can mess with Russia's elections or they get polonium tea. They've been the US' biggest adversary for some time now, it should've been a big red flag when Trump started being buddy-buddy with Russia during the campaign.

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

Also, Putin is a dictator. Nobody can mess with Russia's elections or they get polonium tea. They've been the US' biggest adversary for some time now, it should've been a big red flag when Trump started being buddy-buddy with Russia during the campaign.

No comrade, those are suicides, Dear Leader Putin deeply saddened by them.

 

[Xzi]

No comrade, those are suicides, Dear Leader Putin deeply saddened by them.

"Another senseless suicide by two shots to the back of the head, is tragedy comrade.

Da."

 

[Xzi]

"Trump says he 'never said Russia did not meddle in the election.' He did."

http://theweek.com/speedreads/756194/trump-says-never-said-russia-did-not-meddle-election-did

He's gonna break his neck pulling a 180 that fast if he's not careful.

 

[GBAer]

Now that Mueller has cleared Trump of any collusion with Russian and has found that the only Russian inteference in the 2016 election was a handfull of Twitter trolls, we can now give all
our support for...

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Now that Mueller has cleared Trump of any collusion with Russian and has found that the only Russian inteference in the 2016 election was a handfull of Twitter trolls, we can now give all
our support for...
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Except he hasn't

 

[GBAer]

Except he hasn't

On all the evidence we've been show so far he has.