13 Russians, 3 businesses indicted by Mueller/Rosenstein in connection to Trump

[TotalInsanity4]

Even ignoring all the actual laws he's broken, the bar for president used to be set higher than town drunk. Insulting veterans and gold star families definitely would have gotten any other president impeached, and that's the least of Trump's problematic mannerisms by now.

As much as I think everyone would love it to be, that unfortunately isn't and never has been impeachable

 

[leon315]

well, who will be next USA's next president?

Mccain lol

 

[Xzi]

As much as I think everyone would love it to be, that unfortunately isn't and never has been impeachable

I guess we wouldn't know, because no president has been that stupid in the age of reason before. Trump gets a pass on everything and that's the only reason such a thing is an afterthought. Let alone lying about the number of Americans who died as a result of hurricanes and a mismanaged relief effort.

 

[chrisrlink]

They're not going to hold a new election, just punish those responsible for fucking up the old one. And you must be living under a rock if you think political divisions are no worse than previous. All Trump's done since entering office is insult basically everybody and throw out all presidential norms. His government has attacked net neutrality, legal weed/states rights, freedom of speech/the press and even clean air FFS. Trump has touched every fucking nerve.

don't forget SNAP/ food stamps I rely on those cause i have no job and have been looking for YEARS one that i can afford to get off gov aid no luck

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watch russia threaten a hot war with the US if trump is removed who knows maybe trump is working with north Korea on a contingency plan to kill us if impeached, i mean he hasn't done the "bloody nose" attack on N. Korea to cripple their military yet....makes you think if it's possiable of a N.Korea-Russia and trump pact to end the US if he's removed

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Ahhh, there it is!

The Latest: Trump decries 'far-fetched' collusion theories

 

[Xzi]

Ahhh, there it is!

The Latest: Trump decries 'far-fetched' collusion theories

Maybe he forgot he was elected and there's no such thing as "far-fetched" any more. Reality went off the rails.

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

Even ignoring anything Russia related, him breaking the Emoluments Clause by keeping control of his hotels and businesses (and SPECIFICALLY hosting foreign leaders at a Trump hotel, at that) made him impeachable day one in office

For thst I personally think he should be fined a few million, maybe a billion. I don't think thsts worth impeachment because most people who voted him probsbly already realized he would do that, yet voted him in away for some reason. While I disagree with thst decision, the fact thst he got voted in anyway means impeachment is probably not the answer, but he still deserves consequences.

 

[Xzi]

For thst I personally think he should be fined a few million, maybe a billion. I don't think thsts worth impeachment because most people who voted him probsbly already realized he would do that, yet voted him in away for some reason. While I disagree with thst decision, the fact thst he got voted in anyway means impeachment is probably not the answer, but he still deserves consequences.

This argument doesn't hold water. A foreign country got their agent of chaos elected in the US. If he gets a slap on the wrist, the US is now a free-for-all for foreign countries wanting their slice of power. Might as well join the EU if we're just going to give up our sovereignty piecemeal.

Additionally, a one-time fine does nothing. Trump will be continuing to stay at his hotels/resorts throughout his entire presidency, meaning the taxpayers are inflating his bank accounts while he's president.

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

This argument doesn't hold water. A foreign country got their agent of chaos elected in the US. If he gets a slap on the wrist, the US is now a free-for-all for foreign countries wanting their slice of power. Might as well join the EU if we're just going to give up our sovereignty piecemeal.

Additionally, a one-time fine does nothing. Trump will be continuing to stay at his hotels/resorts throughout his entire presidency, meaning the taxpayers are inflating his bank accounts while he's president.

If he keeps doing it, then he can get impeached, but impeachment isn't appropriate from the get-go just for that.

And if Trump hasn't been directly collaborating with the Russians, then he'll get impeached soon enough, but let's not pounce on him before the conviction.

 

[Xzi]

If he keeps doing it, then he can get impeached, but impeachment isn't appropriate from the get-go just for that.

He's done it for over a year now, his entire presidency lol. He spends more time at his own resorts/hotels than he does in the white house. By a large margin.

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

He's done it for over a year now, his entire presidency lol. He spends more time at his own resorts/hotels than he does in the white house. By a large margin.

Yeah, it's getting on my nerves big time. I don't think flat out impeachment is the answer, because that's too all or nothing, but he deserves conswuesnces. I absolutely hate it when he does that

 

[Pickle_Rick]

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

It's against our laws for any foreign nationals to influence our elections, regardless of the candidate. Doesn't matter if it's trump or sanders

 

[kuwanger]

Which goes to show you, Russia abhors the establishment and wanted chaotic elements that couldn't get much done (Bernie Sanders) or chaotic elements that were sympathetic to their cult of personality oligarchy (Trump) who couldn't get much done.

 

[Xzi]

Which goes to show you, Russia abhors the establishment and wanted chaotic elements that couldn't get much done (Bernie Sanders) or chaotic elements that were sympathetic to their cult of personality oligarchy (Trump) who couldn't get much done.

Really it just goes to show you how much Putin hates Hillary. It was propaganda against Hillary, not for Bernie.

 

[kuwanger]

It was propaganda against Hillary, not for Bernie.

And Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. All the GOP infighting helped Trump win the primary, but the Russian interference was meant to help him win just like the attacks on Hillary were meant to help Bernie win. In Russia's mind, I think a Trump vs Bernie race would have been a win-win.

 

[Xzi]

And Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. All the GOP infighting helped Trump win the primary, but the Russian interference was meant to help him win just like the attacks on Hillary were meant to help Bernie win. In Russia's mind, I think a Trump vs Bernie race would have been a win-win.

Well yeah, but only because that means Hillary loses in round one. Down to Bernie-Trump I'm fairly certain they still would've backed Trump, they have kompromat on him, not Bernie. Also Trump they know would cause chaos and in-fighting naturally. If Bernie got his way as a true populist, the US would've become stronger as a country, not weaker as we are now.

The Russian botfarms were also trying to frame Bernie and Trump as having basically the same policies, which was completely false.

 

[DeslotlCL]

I hardly see how Trump being removed and Pence taking his place would be any better, but whatever. If Clinton gets in office, I'm gonna GTFO from the US. Yeah, I couldn't give a rat's arse what I said, I said it and I'm gonna be brutally honest towards my feelings of other politicians.

I just didn't want a politician on either extreme to be POTUS.

Arent you a furry? Or kind of? i mean, most furries are open minded people or liberals, or at least from what i have seen, so why would you support the conservatives (republicans)? How bad really is clinton as an option?

 

[the_randomizer]

Arent you a furry? Or kind of? i mean, most furries are open minded people or liberals, or at least from what i have seen, so why would you support the conservatives (republicans)? How bad really is clinton as an option?

Well I'm not most furries, why is it such a bad thing to have an opposing view to the other parties? I don't feel comfortable discussing my political views in public on here, fear of backlash from those who do hold liberal views; it's bad enough some people hate my guts on here. If people want my views, I'll save it to PMs. Sorry. All I can say is I don't agree with her political views and other policies.

Apparently, I'm wrong for having different views than someone else, what a surprise.

 

[DeslotlCL]

I don't feel comfortable discussing my political views in public on here, fear of backlash from those who do hold liberal views; it's bad enough some people hate my guts on here. If people want my views, I'll save it to PMs. Sorry. All I can say is I don't agree with her political views and other policies.

Aw it's okay, sorry for the uncomfortable question.