Got NextGen?

deSSy2724 · Nov 15, 2020

MicroLED..... here I come (hope soon).

total_n000000b · Nov 15, 2020

Retroboy said:
People buying the digital only consoles need to be shot.

Remeber all the kick off last gen when ms tried to do digital only and prevent pre owned sales of games.

Well done, you have been slowly brain washed and now, like sheep flock to buy.

This then gives them the excuse to claim it sells better, making savings for the devs, yet still charge you more for digital shit that holds no value.

Enjoy trying to trade your digital only box with 0 games and in years to come, a collection of digital shit that has 0 value.

Unlike my collection of retro games worth over 2k.

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Here is a pc master race troll.

Find me a pc game that is pushing hardware to require this.

Nope, doesnt exist.

What you get is delayed console ports that have been beefed up, but dont actually look that much better considering the hardware.

You seem to act like pc games are like todays graphics and consoles are like ps1 graphics.

Nop3, you just get the same base game, same textures but higher quality, same models, polygon count, just higer resolution and frames.

Bruh I am far from PC master race. Apple M1 is just Soo good we will have better gaming experiences I said that. But my phrasing was a bit bad so apologies. Pc are only good if you want to get locked around a chair and have heat waves blasted out just to enjoy something. Compared to PC ps5 and Carries are much better choices.

PC along with consoles x86 architecture is obsolete. Soon once all the developers adopt to superior ARM instruction set with Nvidia releasing an M1 competitor no one is going to support these slow systems that take power.

An upgraded M1 like performance switch that can be docked will destroy the ps5 will be the dream and apple is making it fulfill! With others following soon of course.

Windows and other things are dead. Hopefully at least this is Microsoft's last console.

deSSy2724 · Nov 15, 2020

Digital consoles/games are just a "alpha/beta" stage for "streamable games"..... and it really is and with pumped up security recently (both hardware and software and im not talking about enabling piracy) and hell, even on PCs (like Denuvo which is worse than ever before), at times even reducing your loading times and FPS in some games etc... it could only get worse in the future and the modding scene will eventually die. Even the "non Denuvo protected" games like RDR2 for PC which use other protections has worse loading times compared to cracked ones (Empress confirmed it).

So, basically.... you get one "plus" (what some of us consider "convenience") and get tens of "minuses" going digital only.

EDIT:

Also, just compare the prices on PSN store and in local shops...... basically I can get some games for around 66 - 69 euros physical compared to PSN store 73 - 75 euro

hah even some games like Far Cry 5 are still 70 euro on PSN store and only 14 - 16 euros physical lol

Dont be stupid guys..... in the long run if you plan to have a big collection of games, you should go physical (you save money) and you could sell some physical games. Sure, somtimes digital are cheaper (during some sales, discounts etc) but normally it isnt.

depaul · Nov 15, 2020

People buying a phone that barely lasts for one year : oh 500$ that's a nice deal!

People buying a last gen console : oh why are consoles so expensive? They could make them cheaper!

wiired24 · Nov 15, 2020

Got myself a PlayStation 5 off of Ebay (Back when you could find a disc version for around $800). In my opinion it's awesome. Games load super quick, the UI is snappy and responsive, backwards compatibility works like a charm and most PS4 games easily run at 60FPS with some running at 4K Resolution. The launch lineup for the PS5 is very strong in my view. I've enjoyed playing Spiderman Miles Morales and Demon Souls quite a bit. Sackboy is another game that's been hard to put down. The DualSense controller lives up to all the hype. Haptic feedback makes a huge difference especially when you're playing shooters. My only gripe with the system is I wish that the battery life lasted a bit longer on the Dualsense but other than that I have no complaints.

TL : DR Get yourself a PS5 it's a true next gen system with an amazing library of games to play.

Darth Meteos · Nov 15, 2020

I'll be getting the Xbox Series X when I can, but the bots stopped me from getting it at launch.

0x3000027E · Nov 15, 2020

Bladexdsl said:
lol it's true remember the power button on the original ps4?

...or the fan on the first gen ps4 Pro.

SSG Vegeta · Nov 15, 2020

I want the Xbox Series X & the PS5 reg but they're expensive plus they're sold out 0.0

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Darth Meteos said:
I'll be getting the Xbox Series X when I can, but the bots stopped me from getting it at launch.

That sucks. I hate bots & scalpers they're scum. I hope that stores will find a way to get rid of bots for good.

playstays_shun · Nov 15, 2020

wiired24 said:
Got myself a PlayStation 5 off of Ebay (Back when you could find a disc version for around $800). In my opinion it's awesome. Games load super quick, the UI is snappy and responsive, backwards compatibility works like a charm and most PS4 games easily run at 60FPS with some running at 4K Resolution. The launch lineup for the PS5 is very strong in my view. I've enjoyed playing Spiderman Miles Morales and Demon Souls quite a bit. Sackboy is another game that's been hard to put down. The DualSense controller lives up to all the hype. Haptic feedback makes a huge difference especially when you're playing shooters. My only gripe with the system is I wish that the battery life lasted a bit longer on the Dualsense but other than that I have no complaints.

TL : DR Get yourself a PS5 it's a true next gen system with an amazing library of games to play.

Would you feel safe recommending its a good enough ps4 pro machine + then some, to ditch the ps4 pro for people who might need some of the cash + no need for two ps4 players?

These are three games I'm getting

Smooth talked my way into B2G1 applying at Target for these

wiired24 · Nov 15, 2020

playstays_shun said:
Would you feel safe recommending its a good enough ps4 pro machine + then some, to ditch the ps4 pro for people who might need some of the cash + no need for two ps4 players?

These are three games I'm getting Smooth talked my way into B2G1 applying at Target for these

Honestly yes. With the PS4 Pro you're mostly getting a louder system that generally does 1440P 60 or checkboard rendered 4K 30. Whereas with the PS5 the noise coming from the system it's barely audible at all. The system runs very cool and the majority of PS4 games run at 60FPS locked, and a decent amount of them even hit 4K.

playstays_shun · Nov 15, 2020

wiired24 said:
Honestly yes. With the PS4 Pro you're mostly getting a louder system that generally does 1440P 60 or checkboard rendered 4K 30. Whereas with the PS5 the noise coming from the system it's barely audible at all. The system runs very cool and the majority of PS4 games run at 60FPS locked, and a decent amount of them even hit 4K.

check board generally meant 1080p to 4K integer scaling right?

thanks this is sweet

so the ps5 doesn’t sound like a jet engine with pro enhanced games? Haha

I also think it looks way more stylish albeit massive compared to the third rectangular slab stacked on top that is the pro, vs the standard ps4,

And ps4 games quick resume like before right ? And can use dual sense with ps4 games? AND ds4 with ps4 games too right ? Just not ds4 with ps5 games as I understand and would have assumed

I know ps5 games don’t quick resume but

unclear about the rest

DarkCoffe64 · Nov 15, 2020

No, and don't think I will.
There's literally like no games that really interest me in these two consoles, and the few usually get on pc too, so, there's that.

Plus its easier to pirate on pc to avoid all the greedy monetization bs

FAST6191 · Nov 15, 2020

leon315 said:
THE ONE THING I really like about Nintendo is they always stay out of RAW HW power competition, always distinguish themselves with unique ideas from other console makers.

?
The NES, SNES and N64 were powerhouses, N64 very much so, the GC pretty contemporary to its peers and I am not sure it had a unique function beyond retaining 4 controller ports and using them.

GBC, GBA and DS were so much "what competition?" but were not necessarily slouches (there is a reason we saw homebrew scenes as potent for them as we did).

What did those unique distinctions amount to?
Waggle controls on the wii that nobody much cares for. Silly tablet thing that did not do a lot. Touchscreen was nice on the DS but hardly a revolutionary step (tablets had them for years and it was clearly the way things were heading otherwise).

alexander1970 said:
No,I have not.

First I will get the actual PlayStation 3 and XBox 360.View attachment 234042

Might want to jump on that sooner rather than later. With them now legitimately being 2 generations behind they are some flavour of classic, and even without that the shelf space dedicated to them in game shops is shrinking and prices have been going up for a year or three already. There are still some deals but there are also plenty of games you might want to play that are going up in price/getting hard to find (I imagine even more so if you are going for German language stuff but I have not been on the ground there, merely looking at sales figures at the time though does not paint the rosiest picture).

hippy dave said:
As far as I can tell nobody makes CRT any more, so I gather you're not interested in modern resolutions or refresh rates either. Have fun in the dark ages.

Barring the fad that is 4K (though some pushed things here) might want to see what resolutions and refresh rates the CRTs got to if you got a good one.

SSG Vegeta said:
That sucks. I hate bots & scalpers they're scum. I hope that stores will find a way to get rid of bots for good.

I am not sure how a bot is scum and whether scalpers are is a different matter.
As far as shops getting rid of bots then never gonna happen -- they sell their stock either way and those that missed out will be back in a week when the next shipment comes in. Why would you spend money in a big old arms race against people that do the bot thing almost for fun, not to mention having to make it so normal users can still manage it?

Spider_Man · Nov 15, 2020

total_n000000b said:
Bruh I am far from PC master race. Apple M1 is just Soo good we will have better gaming experiences I said that. But my phrasing was a bit bad so apologies. Pc are only good if you want to get locked around a chair and have heat waves blasted out just to enjoy something. Compared to PC ps5 and Carries are much better choices.

PC along with consoles x86 architecture is obsolete. Soon once all the developers adopt to superior ARM instruction set with Nvidia releasing an M1 competitor no one is going to support these slow systems that take power.

An upgraded M1 like performance switch that can be docked will destroy the ps5 will be the dream and apple is making it fulfill! With others following soon of course.

Windows and other things are dead. Hopefully at least this is Microsoft's last console.

Hardware doesnt give a better gaming experience, a game is fun or its shit.

Playing on a high end system doesnt make a shit game better.

But thing is, pcs have had the hardware to offer next gen quality, but you dont, you get current gen ports.

wiitendo84 · Nov 16, 2020

Alright, for those of you who are looking for a ps5. In states that have Meijer. 12:01AM on black friday they will have them online. No amazing deals on them but just a heads up. Also walmart will have them back up at 7pm on the wednesday before thanksgiving.

simbin · Nov 16, 2020

probably going to skip PS5 VCR and wait for PS5 Slim

Mariemario · Nov 16, 2020

Interested in XSX but MS doesn't have official Xbox branch in my country, only SONY does. Will stick to my PC for the foreseeable future until the next Tomb Raider release, hopefully.

Costello · Nov 16, 2020

as for every generation I'll wait a while to see if one of the two consoles is supremely better than the other one
and I'll get a slim for half the price when it's finally available

SG854 · Nov 16, 2020

Where the option for next gen pc?

stanleyopar2000 said:
Going to wait a few months in 2021 so it's less of a "status symbol with 2 games."They'll be more available magically afterwards and more games too.

....or just say fuck it to both and buy a 3070..maybe RX 6800 if it performs better.

Still undecided.

According to digital foundry. Series X has rasterization performance (non raytraced performance) close to a 2080. And raytracing close to a 2060 super.

So a 2080 Super, 2080 Ti, 3070, 3080, 3090 all outperform a Series X. And soon to add to this list next gen AMD RDNA2 Pc cards.

RTX 3080 has about 50% more performance then Series X. So Series X the graphically best of the 2 next gen consoles is around low end to low mid range pc hardware performance. The 3070 is a mid range card & that outperformed Series X. So next gen consoles is on the low end of pc hardware.

gamemasteru03 · Nov 16, 2020

I got a PS5 so far it's great. I don't really see why somebody would get an Xbox right now. They released no first party games for it on launch. While PlayStation has some heavy hitters like Demon Souls and Spiderman Miles Morales. That and it seems like Microsoft just upped the specs and called it a day while Sony actually improved other things such as controller and UI. The only things the Xbox has going for it are quick resume and game pass. Even then, all the games on gamepass can be played on the Xbox one, PC, and even a few on andriod phones. While Sony is probably going to copy quick resume soon. This is all coming from a guy who had Xbox one and PS4 last gen.

SG854 · Nov 16, 2020

gamemasteru03 said:
I got a PS5 so far it's great. I don't really see why somebody would get an Xbox right now. They released no first party games for it on launch. While PlayStation has some heavy hitters like Demon Souls and Spiderman Miles Morales. That and it seems like Microsoft just upped the specs and called it a day while Sony actually improved other things such as controller and UI. The only things the Xbox has going for it are quick resume and game pass. Even then, all the games on gamepass can be played on the Xbox one, PC, and even a few on andriod phones. While Sony is probably going to copy quick resume soon. This is all coming from a guy who had Xbox one and PS4 last gen.

Game pass is big for Microsoft. Quick resume is a very nice bonus feature.

The problem with PS5 games is that many of them are available on PS4. Which makes people hesitant to rush out and get one. Miles Morales is on PS4. And Demon Souls is a remake. So PS5 is no different in terms of Series X with its game selection. Maybe justa tad bit better not enough for people to rush out for one.

I dont like the Xbox UI is basically the same. Sony at least changed it to give us something different and improved it to make it feel next gen.

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Ryccardo said:
Correct! I do not see any value in them (for the Earth and for the user; on the other hand I have to concede an applause to the industry who got tons of gullible people to buy into planned obsolescent products, resulting in 10 years of ongoing free gear outside your local rubbish bin, due to repeat very soon thanks to the discontinuation of DVB-T1 )

CRT's aren't that much better then flatscreen. Consumer OLED's outclassed them. And this is coming from someone who used a Sony BVM 20F1U the best CRT ever made.

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