From my perspective on what went on at the the time in this forum:Was just browsing the ummm...well, "tinfoil" (trying not to get in trouble here) and just saw a new sections for payloads. What struck me as kind of weird were the descriptions for the different payloads that named atmosphere the "worst" and SXOS the "best" CFW along side hekate labeled as "really bad bootloader".
I'm not really sure I understand what the hate is all about.
When the Switch scene started, and the exploit was found and known to be unpatchable, this forum reached maybe (?) peak activity - mostly caused by people wanting "free" and waiting for the different implementations to be finished.
Most of those people were uneducated ('whats a jailbreak'), uninterested in anything on a more than superfluous level, unwilling to do research, only here for the purpose of 'someone else do the work and tell me most easy way to...'.
When Team Xecutor was resurrected by name (rly?), those would have been the people that where interested in "brand", because "brand did something they remembered 15 years ago" (or were told that was grand, by people who remembered). And who didnt care the least about the differentiation between FOSS and 'commercial product'.
Anywho - from that point forward it was 'off to the races' on who would have a functioning implementation first.
Xecutor indeed was first - and started to sell 'software licenses' at which point I certainly facepalmed (dont you see the irony here?) - but the majority of the community in here just didnt care.
Then the predictable problematic thing happened.
More than half of the people in here bought a "software license" for piracy, because thats what first was available - people with a little more technological knowledge, or lets say "interest in ecosystems" (rather than "uh - first to piracy"), in general - were dismissive of the "need most easy, bought piracy software license from chinese vendor, support MEEEE" attitude and told about half of the people in here to flip off to the team xecutor forums for support then.
The rest is cognitive dissonance.
People who bought piracy licenses went to xecutor forums en mass - didnt get the support they often needed, came flocking back - were told (by me even) eff off, idiot - no support for you. But had paid for software licenses for the honors of being first to piracy, so had this strange mental block of admitting that they just were tools 'who didnt care about a scene at all' - and started to retaliate in rhetorical argument.
Something, something, SXOS is so much better because of one of two features (SXOS first to emunand (increased complexity, which people couldnt handle), and SXOS being the only ecosystem that has an implementation for external storage devices (worse solution, tethers your switch - but storage for mass piracy is cheaper.)).
Something, something, but we still want people that care about the homebrew scene aspect to support us.
Something, something about not being able to cope with being told, flipp off to your commercial vendor for support then.
Something about feeling entitled to being supported for free.
I think I personally quoted Rorschach once in accordance to having to support SXOS users who returned from the commercial forums at the time, to request mass support..
Something along the lines of:
“The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout 'SAVE US!'...and I'll look down and whisper 'No.”
So in my mind, this always was a 'cultural conflict'.
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