Sony struggling to keep PS5 cost down

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I think it's a matter of ideal scenarios (cheap used ebay price) shouldn't be presented as common. For common, you click on "sold" sorting and look at the median selling price for what you are looking for. That's a better way of presenting used options.

I'm willing to have a sensible convo about it with others. Done caring about anything the other guy had to say, lol. Anyway... that method may be a more accurate way of getting "common" prices, but for me personally, sorting by lowest price is the way to go to find a better deal & also looking at common prices that also have the "Or Best Offer" option. I'm not sure why anyone would buy at a common price when a lower price for the exact same item is available. So NOT looking at the common price is also every bit as valid. There is nothing "made up" in the slightest of ways, about a lower price. As was being implied by another party. :)
 

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Looks like you don't even understand what I meant by your GPU has been through the gutter in the last 5 years.
I meant, when you buy such a GPU, someone else was already mining with that GPU religiously. That's why the price is so insanely cheap on Ebay. A GTX 1060 for $80 is something NO ONE will buy for that exact reason (except maybe.. you). Unless you're willing to spend $80 on a GPU that's gonna fail anytime soon. You're way better off doing mail-in rebates on parts.

What kind of person goes around saying: "I can build a current gen PC that blows away a 7 year old console" for the price of the console at its release date 7 years ago. By that statement alone, no one will take you serious. When PS5 comes out, I'd like to see you build a PC of better specs for the same price. That's the entire point of the thread. People were arguing that it's hard to build one at the same price as ~$500 or w/e that will beat it on release date.. and that it's not much to pay to be able to play the latest games for the next 5-6 years with almost zero configuration. You building that PC ain't gonna play games on it for then next 5-6 years.

No one is asking about your dusty PC build in 2020 to compete against a 7 year old console. So yeah, going to Ebay and picking the lowest possible price for parts and going around bragging that you beat the PS4's specs is down-right disingenuous.


"Just stop already with the PC costs hundreds of $$$$ more & the "hassle" of configuring games nonsense. Overblown bullshit. As an example, my PC is probably valued at $300-$400 TOPS, and it will blow away any current gen console in a heartbeat. And the "hassle" business is a complete non-issue. It's much more of an upgrade than a downgrade as you're trying to push it off as."

The only person to ever compare a PC build in 2020, against a console build in 2013.
I shall compare my 970Evo M.2 to the 3.5in Floppy disk too.
I will compare my x86_64 6700K to the Commodore 64's 6510 and brag how badly I beat it in order to prove that it's just over "Overblown bullshit" and its release price ridiculous.

Ridiculous.
 
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It's kinda sad that we can't just all unite as gamers instead of these incessant platform wars. I guess it mirrors a lot of other facets of life in 2020 though. It's a pity.
 
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Hey, it'll definitely do 8K!
"New! Console plays at 8K RESOLUTION[upscaled720i]"

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It's kinda sad that we can't just all unite as gamers instead of these incessant platform wars. I guess it mirrors a lot of other facets of life in 2020 though. It's a pity.
But then we'd get a monopoly which is significantly worse than the oligopoly we have.
 
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even if was 500 quid stil a good price compared to hundreds mor youd hav to pay for a pc with hardly any difference and the hassle of configuring games and settings-plug and play way to go-dont kno what yr on about re fun games are you saying thers hardly any on ps4 bit of a stupid statement saying tht
Dammit he's right y'know! Well, in 2005 he was anyway, have you even touched a PC for gaming since? :lol:
I actually built a PC that could outperform a PS4 for about 300 quid ....on the same month the PS4 launched!
And the latter half, well there you go again thinking everyone should think the same way you do. Opinions man....I also, despite owning one, don't rate the PS4, playing it less than Xbox One (which I've gone off too), my PC and of course the Switch.

Anyway let's give Sony a bit of slack and allow them a $500 price tag, especially for what is clearly a generational leap of a console over the PS4. I find this $400 sweet spot bollocks just that, I mean when the PS1 released you could buy a Mars bar for 2 and 6*, nowadays they're fukkin 80p and half the size!
(* - I actually don't know what 2 and 6 means - my mum keeps saying it :lol: We're going back to the Noahs Ark days with that one, but I do remember Mars bars being about 35p back in the 90s! And about twice the size!)
 
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According to Bloomberg Sony is finding it difficult to maintain the $399 mark with it's new console, with a price point of $450 to $499 looking more likely.

It makes me wonder if convergence with PC's is a wise move, or if Nintendo has the better strategy to keep specs more modest and concentrate on fun gaming instead?
I mean I was willing to pay up too $500
 

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Dammit he's right y'know! Well, in 2005 he was anyway, have you even touched a PC for gaming since? :lol:
I actually built a PC that could outperform a PS4 for about 300 quid ....on the same month the PS4 launched!
And the latter half, well there you go again thinking everyone should think the same way you do. Opinions man....I also, despite owning one, don't rate the PS4, playing it less than Xbox One (which I've gone off too), my PC and of course the Switch.

Anyway let's give Sony a bit of slack and allow them a $500 price tag, especially for what is clearly a generational leap of a console over the PS4. I find this $400 sweet spot bollocks just that, I mean when the PS1 released you could buy a Mars bar for 2 and 6*, nowadays they're fukkin 80p and half the size!
(* - I actually don't know what 2 and 6 means - my mum keeps saying it :lol: We're going back to the Noahs Ark days with that one, but I do remember Mars bars being about 35p back in the 90s! And about twice the size!)
You kno the saying hav a break hav a kit kat I think you should hav a break hav a Mars bar to rest the nonsense coming out Yr brain lol - I don't need to defend the ps4 as we all kno it's the best selling console of this generation and so wil be the ps5 for the next
 

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the ps4 as we all kno it's the best selling console of this generation and so wil be the ps5 for the next
Do we know that about the PS5? Every console maker had some serious flops over the years and MS is likely going to come out swinging with a lot put into it/riding on it (they already tasted victory with the 360 and in doing so controlled the game market for another however many years).

Anyway let's give Sony a bit of slack and allow them a $500 price tag, especially for what is clearly a generational leap of a console over the PS4. I find this $400 sweet spot bollocks just that, I mean when the PS1 released you could buy a Mars bar for 2 and 6*, nowadays they're fukkin 80p and half the size!
(* - I actually don't know what 2 and 6 means - my mum keeps saying it :lol: We're going back to the Noahs Ark days with that one, but I do remember Mars bars being about 35p back in the 90s! And about twice the size!)
Is it a generational leap if it takes however many years it will be and they just pick some half nice off the shelf hardware?

The $400 sweet spot (or $400 plus online, plus a game, and because I am clearly out of my mind then another controller for two player games) is something I would have to investigate. Perception of the cost, disposable income (not so much of that around these days), perceived value, what said money will get you outside of games, what said money will buy as a present for kids

Also 2 and 6 probably means 2 shillings and 6 pence. If you do want to get lost in the weeds http://projectbritain.com/moneyold.htm

As for mars bars 35p seems steep, especially if you were oop north. Even ignoring that I don'tn particularly like the taste they always seemed like a false economy to me so I never went in for them -- same money could get you a whole bunch of sweets from a jar (even more if you got sour pips or aniseed), or maybe a milky way or two, possibly a flake and not a milkybar as the only ones around here were giant. If you were completely lacking taste then maybe two curly whirlys, or even more fudge bars. I would say something about Freddos in that but they were not actually that bad and still cost 10p at that point.
 

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Wow a sense of humour failure instead of the just shilling/unmitigated apologetics. Your range is widening. Not sure for the better but hey.

Anyway it seems I missed out on hypothetical PC building. Never really had trouble making a PC that would play all the same games as the console (probably better, even if you ignore PC having mods, better networking and superior controls) for around console prices. Gets even easier if you add in the console's online bill, a game and a controller, further still if you figure you are going to have a PC either way and thus you get an extra £200 or so that you would have dropped on internet + office machine and are now north of £500.
 

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Wow a sense of humour failure instead of the just shilling/unmitigated apologetics. Your range is widening. Not sure for the better but hey
The what has what has chocolate got to do with the ps5 was being humorous as you can see I said lol in the sentence - don't worry one day youl learn how I speak:D
 

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don't worry one day youl learn how I speak:D
Given you seemingly can not type for shit and make a point of it I hope not, even if it does take me 5 times longer to parse your witterings than most other things I read on here (even the "I have not used English since I learned it in school 10 years ago and am making an honest effort with machine translation to ask for help with my flash cart that I don't understand either" crowd I tend to have an easier time with).
Also I thought lol had long since lost all meaning.

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Given you seemingly can not type for shit
I can actually type 70 wpm in an official typing test but as this is not a typing test or an English exam I couldn't giv a cows arse - I think next time I'll type ass as its shorter :lol:
 

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I can actually type 70 wpm in an official typing test but as this is not a typing test or an English exam I couldn't giv a cows arse - I think next time I'll type ass as its shorter :lol:
If you are trying to communicate your point and not come across as a cunt, or be a cunt to those that do not have English as a first language such that they can infer what you mean, then an honest try at proper spelling and grammar does go a long way.

As for ass rather than arse if you want to be a polite American (seriously, ass became adopted in America as it was deemed less vulgar) then far be for me to stop people from making a fool of themselves.
 

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