Hacking SWITCH NOOB PARADISE - Ask questions here

CanIHazWarez · Jun 26, 2019

I have a stupid question. I use SX OS and have been trying to stick with XCIs, but have recently been playing some smaller indie games that are only available as NSPs. When I go to install an NSP, it gives you the option of "microSD storage" or "system storage". I have emunand and I installed my NSPs using the "microSD storage" option because I was thinking it was asking whether I wanted to install them on the emmunand (which is on the microSD card) or sysnand. In retrospect, I think "system storage" probably means whatever nand you are on (in this case, emmunand) and "microSD storage" probably means installing it as you would if you were on an unhacked system and simply using the microSD as additional storage. I want to have the games installed on the emmunand, since it's already chewing up 32gb of storage on my card.
Does anyone care to inform me which of these is correct?

Draxzelex · Jun 26, 2019

CanIHazWarez said:
I have a stupid question. I use SX OS and have been trying to stick with XCIs, but have recently been playing some smaller indie games that are only available as NSPs. When I go to install an NSP, it gives you the option of "microSD storage" or "system storage". I have emunand and I installed my NSPs using the "microSD storage" option because I was thinking it was asking whether I wanted to install them on the emmunand (which is on the microSD card) or sysnand. In retrospect, I think "system storage" probably means whatever nand you are on (in this case, emmunand) and "microSD storage" probably means installing it as you would if you were on an unhacked system and simply using the microSD as additional storage. I want to have the games installed on the emmunand, since it's already chewing up 32gb of storage on my card.
Does anyone care to inform me which of these is correct?

Although you were asking for advice on installing .NSP files, I think you should give NSC_Builder a shot and convert them to .XCI files. The keys can be obtained with Lockpick_RCM.

CanIHazWarez · Jun 26, 2019

Draxzelex said:
Although you were asking for advice on installing .NSP files, I think you should give NSC_Builder a shot and convert them to .XCI files. The keys can be obtained with Lockpick_RCM.

Thanks for the suggestion. I actually had an XCI file that was built using that (pre-packaged, I didn't do it myself), but it caused an error on the SX menu and made it unusable. Not saying that that program causes errors, there was probably just an issue with the XCI that I downloaded.

ReannaN · Jun 26, 2019

Hayato213 said:
7.0.1 has access to the future release of the software base exploit deja vu, as it got patched in 8.0.0.

Ok that’s fine! I’ll stick with 7 then!

EdxAllen · Jun 26, 2019

Hello guys, i got a problem with the installing the NSP files.
I got a switch that has been updated to the 8.1.0(by missclick) and i am using AMS 0.9.1.
I tried different way to install the games in the switch but without success.
I am able to install only games under 4GB because i have the SD Card as Fat32.
Before, when i had the 7.0.1 i was using the tinfoil usb with python and was fantastic, just 1 command line and everything was done.
Now i tried tinfoil, tinfoil usb, goldleaf, fluffy and every possible way to install by splitting the NSP file.
Now my question is : There is a way to install the games without split the nsp file in a 8.1.0 with AMS 0.9.1?
Thank you!

Edit : I am booting by using the fusee primary.

ssfirme · Jun 26, 2019

Ok guys, after updating my switch and could not use heka

Draxzelex said:
I would recommend starting over as you clearly lack the fundamental understanding of Switch hacking. Follow this guide to refresh your mind.

Ok, i follow the guide here and was able to get my switch to boot back to normal and play my games, but i can't seem to get into gold leaf or homebrew store when i go into the album, i hold R and go into album but nothing happens, did i missed a step or forgot to install something else,?

Slothbox · Jun 26, 2019

I recently updated to 8.1, updated KOSMOS and Atmosphere using the sdcard setup site. However after all the boot logos I get this error
Error Code: 2168-0002 (0x4a8)
Title: 0100000000000352
Firmware: 8.1.0 (Atmoshere 0.9.1-master3f238c)

Bunny8093 · Jun 26, 2019

Draxzelex said:
emuMMC is primarily a way for users to be on a higher firmware without updating the firmware of their console. Its alternative uses include being a brick shield for your console as well as a ban shield by separating CFW and homebrew from legitimate online play. Currently, only SX OS and Atmosphere support emuMMC. Atmosphere's implementation is a bit unstable and while SX OS features a currently better version of emuMMC, it is locked behind a paywall which makes it worthless especially since Atmosphere's implementation will improve over time and eventually supersede the implementation in SX OS. Bear in the mind the main drawback to using emuMMC is that it requires 32 GB of free space on your SD card since that is how big the eMMC is on your console. If you do not wish to use emuMMC, then your only option towards preventing a ban is by making a clean NAND backup before using CFW/homebrew, staying offline with all CFW/homebrew, then restoring that clean NAND dump before going online.

As for jigs, I personally used a paperclip myself but I do not recommend using it forever. What I do recommend is after using anything like a jig to enter RCM the first time is to enable AutoRCM so you never have to use a jig again. Bear in mind this mimics a brick because the console automatically and only boots into RCM; meaning you can only use the console by sending a payload. Otherwise, buy a jig from eBay from a reseller who has a high rating to ensure better jig quality although the chances of a jig permanently damaging your system is very low.

I'm not entirely sure about constantly being in RCM mode like that so I dunno if I wanna do that since I don't plan to use CFW very much. So I will probably invest in a safe jig, I did see a couple on Amazon that looked fine.

If using emuMMC is the safer option than I will do it. By the time I'll actually need it maybe Atmosphere will be much better at it and I won't need to buy the other one. It's basically just a matter of ban protection and brick protection since you can never be too careful. Thanks for answering my concerns.

I guess the only other thing I'd ask is doing exactly what I plan to do what are the chances I'd get banned? Have there been many bans for this at all?

gnmmarechal · Jun 26, 2019

Draxzelex said:
Yes.

For restoring your NAND, just drop your BOOT0/BOOT1 as well as your eMMC raw GPP (rawnand.bin) or eMMC SYS into the backup/(eMMC serial number)/restore folder then use the Restore function in Hekate.
I was referring to Adubbz Tinfoil, not DZ/fakefoil made by vertigo.

Right. I'd say these tool names are on par with the Wii U/new 3DS.

alex2196 · Jun 26, 2019

Hello guys, i have another problem today. I'm on atmosphere 0.8.9 e ofw 7.0.1 i install some games with goldleaf but when i try to lunch it gives me error 2154-0107 how can i solve?

hdhani · Jun 26, 2019

Hi all,

Finally got my hands on an unpatched switch! I put it into airplane mode straight away after doing the initial set up and confirmed that it was unpatched using the biskeydump.

Now I want to create a nand backup before doing anything else.

- I have a new sdxc card that I inserted into the switch, its prompting me to do a system update to use it. My switch comes with firmware version 3.0.0. If I connect to the internet and update I think its going to update the system to 8.1.0 too. Is it ok to update this way? Or I have to update firmware via ChoiDujourNX ?

- Do I have to update before I do a nand backup since the sd card isnt being read properly? (trying a clean backup so ideally I don't want to update anything ideally - but if I have no choice then I will update the firmware first)

- Do I need to format my sd card as exfat instead of fat32 before performing a nand backup with hekate? There's some windows application I need to use to format it right? (I forgot what its called)

- I also have a game download code, I guess I have to create a nintendo account and go to the eshop to be able to download it? Can I do this after I'm on OFW 8.1.0, and then my download will still work on CFW?

Draxzelex · Jun 26, 2019

EdxAllen said:
Hello guys, i got a problem with the installing the NSP files.
I got a switch that has been updated to the 8.1.0(by missclick) and i am using AMS 0.9.1.
I tried different way to install the games in the switch but without success.
I am able to install only games under 4GB because i have the SD Card as Fat32.
Before, when i had the 7.0.1 i was using the tinfoil usb with python and was fantastic, just 1 command line and everything was done.
Now i tried tinfoil, tinfoil usb, goldleaf, fluffy and every possible way to install by splitting the NSP file.
Now my question is : There is a way to install the games without split the nsp file in a 8.1.0 with AMS 0.9.1?
Thank you!

Edit : I am booting by using the fusee primary.

Have you tried using Aluminum Foil with Tinfoil? You also do not need to split the .NSP files if you are using USB installation.

ssfirme said:
Ok guys, after updating my switch and could not use heka

Ok, i follow the guide here and was able to get my switch to boot back to normal and play my games, but i can't seem to get into gold leaf or homebrew store when i go into the album, i hold R and go into album but nothing happens, did i missed a step or forgot to install something else,?

Check the troubleshooting section of the ReiNX guide.

Slothbox said:
I recently updated to 8.1, updated KOSMOS and Atmosphere using the sdcard setup site. However after all the boot logos I get this error
Error Code: 2168-0002 (0x4a8)
Title: 0100000000000352
Firmware: 8.1.0 (Atmoshere 0.9.1-master3f238c)

Delete the title in that error which you can find in atmosphere/titles

Bunny8093 said:
I'm not entirely sure about constantly being in RCM mode like that so I dunno if I wanna do that since I don't plan to use CFW very much. So I will probably invest in a safe jig, I did see a couple on Amazon that looked fine.

If using emuMMC is the safer option than I will do it. By the time I'll actually need it maybe Atmosphere will be much better at it and I won't need to buy the other one. It's basically just a matter of ban protection and brick protection since you can never be too careful. Thanks for answering my concerns.

I guess the only other thing I'd ask is doing exactly what I plan to do what are the chances I'd get banned? Have there been many bans for this at all?

Nobody has been banned for using emuMMC yet but this should not change as long as you never go online with CFW/homebrew. But there have been people banned for importing/dumping save data even without modifying it.

alex2196 said:
Hello guys, i have another problem today. I'm on atmosphere 0.8.9 e ofw 7.0.1 i install some games with goldleaf but when i try to lunch it gives me error 2154-0107 how can i solve?

Have you tried using ReiNX to see if the issue persists?

hdhani said:
Hi all,

Finally got my hands on an unpatched switch! I put it into airplane mode straight away after doing the initial set up and confirmed that it was unpatched using the biskeydump.

Now I want to create a nand backup before doing anything else.

- I have a new sdxc card that I inserted into the switch, its prompting me to do a system update to use it. My switch comes with firmware version 3.0.0. If I connect to the internet and update I think its going to update the system to 8.1.0 too. Is it ok to update this way? Or I have to update firmware via ChoiDujourNX ?

- Do I have to update before I do a nand backup since the sd card isnt being read properly? (trying a clean backup so ideally I don't want to update anything ideally - but if I have no choice then I will update the firmware first)

- Do I need to format my sd card as exfat instead of fat32 before performing a nand backup with hekate? There's some windows application I need to use to format it right? (I forgot what its called)

- I also have a game download code, I guess I have to create a nintendo account and go to the eshop to be able to download it? Can I do this after I'm on OFW 8.1.0, and then my download will still work on CFW?

If you update online now, you will burn fuses which will make it impossible for you to downgrade in case better exploits are released on lower firmware versions such as an untethered coldboot hack. While it is advised to update with the homebrew application ChoiDujourNX, you can still dump your NAND with an exFAT formatted SD card without updating your console to support exFAT
As explained in the previous bullet point, you do not need exFAT support on your console to dump your NAND with an exFAT formatted SD card. This is because Hekate, the main way to dump the NAND, is loaded outside of the console's operating system and as such does not require exFAT support from your console
If you dump the NAND with a FAT32 SD card with Hekate, you will get a NAND dump split into 15 parts
Here is where the dilemma comes into play. There are no reliable ways of updating without burning fuses that do not involve homebrew and thus risk a ban. But if you update while burning fuses, you lock yourself into using Fusee Gelee which is the RCM exploit for nearly the entire lifespan of the Switch. If you are fine with that, you can just go ahead and update while burning fuses to redeem your download code before using CFW. But if you want to preserve your fuses, either update your firmware with ChoiDujourNX or enable AutoRCM then perform a system update while running Atmosphere/ReiNX. Both of these can bring you to firmware 8.1 without burning fuses. You can then redeem your download code before using any other features of CFW. The chances of a ban in this scenario is relatively low
One thing you should also be aware of is that since your console came with firmware 3.0, your gamecart slot has not been updated. There is an update for it on firmware versions 4.0 and above that prevent it from being used on firmware versions below 4.0. This only matters when you update without burning fuses as this is the only situation where you would return to a firmware version of 4.0 or less. To prevent this update from occurring, modern CFW break the cartridge slot on firmware versions 4.0 or higher. This means you cannot play cartridges on firmware versions 4.0 or higher if you updated without burning fuses from a firmware below 4.0. Now this isn't that big of a deal since all of the free CFW support games in .NSP format which is the digital version of Switch games. But this is something to be mindful about if you decide to update without burning fuses

alex2196 · Jun 26, 2019

Draxzelex said:
Have you tried using Aluminum Foil with Tinfoil? You also do not need to split the .NSP files if you are using USB installation.

Check the troubleshooting section of the ReiNX guide.

Delete the title in that error which you can find in atmosphere/titles

Nobody has been banned for using emuMMC yet but this should not change as long as you never go online with CFW/homebrew. But there have been people banned for importing/dumping save data even without modifying it.

Have you tried using ReiNX to see if the issue persists?

If you update online now, you will burn fuses which will make it impossible for you to downgrade in case better exploits are released on lower firmware versions such as an untethered coldboot hack. While it is advised to update with the homebrew application ChoiDujourNX, you can still dump your NAND with an exFAT formatted SD card without updating your console to support exFAT

As explained in the previous bullet point, you do not need exFAT support on your console to dump your NAND with an exFAT formatted SD card. This is because Hekate, the main way to dump the NAND, is loaded outside of the console's operating system and as such does not require exFAT support from your console

If you dump the NAND with a FAT32 SD card with Hekate, you will get a NAND dump split into 15 parts

Here is where the dilemma comes into play. There are no reliable ways of updating without burning fuses that do not involve homebrew and thus risk a ban. But if you update while burning fuses, you lock yourself into using Fusee Gelee which is the RCM exploit for nearly the entire lifespan of the Switch. If you are fine with that, you can just go ahead and update while burning fuses to redeem your download code before using CFW. But if you want to preserve your fuses, either update your firmware with ChoiDujourNX or enable AutoRCM then perform a system update while running Atmosphere/ReiNX. Both of these can bring you to firmware 8.1 without burning fuses. You can then redeem your download code before using any other features of CFW. The chances of a ban in this scenario is relatively low

One thing you should also be aware of is that since your console came with firmware 3.0, your gamecart slot has not been updated. There is an update for it on firmware versions 4.0 and above that prevent it from being used on firmware versions below 4.0. This only matters when you update without burning fuses as this is the only situation where you would return to a firmware version of 4.0 or less. To prevent this update from occurring, modern CFW break the cartridge slot on firmware versions 4.0 or higher. This means you cannot play cartridges on firmware versions 4.0 or higher if you updated without burning fuses from a firmware below 4.0. Now this isn't that big of a deal since all of the free CFW support games in .NSP format which is the digital version of Switch games. But this is something to be mindful about if you decide to update without burning fuses

sorry if I disturb you I have a big issue, after try to use the hekate menu, when I inject the fusee payload my switch stuck on Nintendo Switch logo.... please don't tell me that I brick my console..

Draxzelex · Jun 26, 2019

alex2196 said:
sorry if I disturb you I have a big issue, after try to use the hekate menu, when I inject the fusee payload my switch stuck on Nintendo Switch logo.... please don't tell me that I brick my console..

It is ridiculously hard to brick the Nintendo Switch. Perform a manual shutdown (i.e. hold the Power button for 12 seconds).

alex2196 · Jun 26, 2019

Draxzelex said:
It is ridiculously hard to brick the Nintendo Switch. Perform a manual shutdown (i.e. hold the Power button for 12 seconds).

I do it but every time I try to reboot console it stays on the logo...

Bunny8093 · Jun 26, 2019

Draxzelex said:
Nobody has been banned for using emuMMC yet but this should not change as long as you never go online with CFW/homebrew. But there have been people banned for importing/dumping save data even without modifying it.

Well that's a little concerning. Thank you for the advice. Maybe I'll never have to rely on backups but if I do it's a risk I'm gonna have to take. Maybe in the future we'll have an even safer method. Fingers crossed.

Draxzelex · Jun 26, 2019

alex2196 said:
I do it but every time I try to reboot console it stays on the logo...

What did you do to get it into this state in the first place?

Bunny8093 said:
Well that's a little concerning. Thank you for the advice. Maybe I'll never have to rely on backups but if I do it's a risk I'm gonna have to take. Maybe in the future we'll have an even safer method. Fingers crossed.

Highly unlikely. By the time such tools come out, the console will be at End Of Life meaning Nintendo will stop banning people as they will have shifted focus to their next device.

alex2196 · Jun 26, 2019

Draxzelex said:
What did you do to get it into this state in the first place?

Highly unlikely. By the time such tools come out, the console will be at End Of Life meaning Nintendo will stop banning people as they will have shifted focus to their next device.

I was in the hakate menu (which I reach from the atmosphere menu in the album) and after that I press the cfw options (I know I m a stupid) it reboot and it seems like it is always in auto rcm menu and when I run the payload it stuck on the switch logo..

Hipeopeo · Jun 26, 2019

Hey! Is there a way I can access my microSD card (To update ReiNX) with RCM over USB, without booting into the Switch OFW? I have AutoRCM, and I just wanna update ReiNX.

Sorry if this is dumb, I'm just desperate, and I refuse to believe no one has encountered this and left it alone, yet my research sees otherwise.

Thank you for any help, I'm just a bored person on the internet trying to use my Switch.

Bunny8093 · Jun 26, 2019

Draxzelex said:
Highly unlikely. By the time such tools come out, the console will be at End Of Life meaning Nintendo will stop banning people as they will have shifted focus to their next device.

Yeah sounds about right. Well if backing up alone is safe maybe it'll be okay and by the time I'd need it if I ever do it won't matter anyways.

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