Do you prefer to mod new, or old consoles?

hakd88 · Jun 20, 2019

I prefer hacking old consoles, otherwise if you do current-gen consoles, and something goes wrong, your chances are pretty slim with fixing it until sometime in the future. Anyway, on older consoles, you can actually do more stuff on it usually because people make better hacks, etc.

Also, the first console I hacked was my 3DS, which now has so many games that it takes a few minutes to load Data Management because I have at least 75+ games I have installed using FBI.

Anyway, if you get a new console, you can't do much more with it after hacking it, so hacking is kind of pointless and too risky. (people get banned from doing this if it's too new, e.g. Nintendo Switch)
If you have a old console (not too old, e.g. a broken game-boy!), you can do way more stuff with it, so it is worth hacking it.

Ryccardo · Jun 20, 2019

Medium-age stuff...

My main appeal with the 3DS scene (as with most other consoles) was the "new discoveries and sharing them" side, but in retrospective it's ultimately one of the least subjectively satisfying consoles I've owned, in part due to game updates and DLC removing the developers' vested interest in releasing quality products (as well as game freak sucking more than ever at this aspect), in part due to a lack of homebrew I'd appreciate like a good media (meaning photo+audio+video+text) player, not really surprising given that cheap && decent phones didn't kill consoles but definitely killed console homebrew

...on the other hand, buying a NES and flashcard to play loads of pirate games isn't appealing me either for whatever reason (probably the good chance of using an unimplemented mapper), and I'm rather hesitant on buying a GBPlayer and GBA flashcard too (probably because I recently fixed my EzFlash 3in1 and can therefore play the few GBA things I care about on DS)

Wii and to a lesser extent DS, in the late 2000s, were instead the coolest things I thought to ever exist, due to the large variety of homebrew (honestly, what's the chance of seeing an email client or google earth imitation on a console of any age, nowadays?) - same goes for the PS2 I bought less than 2 years ago, with very little homebrew of the non-system-tool variety but with ongoing development and mostly friendly community to date!

Deleted member 42501 · Jun 20, 2019

StrayGuitarist said:
I mainly mod my consoles for running backups, and in the case of the Wii and DSi, restoring online functionality, and the original Xbox is one I've spent LOTS of time with. Not so much tricking it out like that, but certainly burning games to discs, and running lots of homebrew titles, particularly DoomX and that Streets of Rage thing too.

I actually buy games even after modding my systems because they're quite cheap if you're patient. Noticed ages ago that when I used to copy games I never really played them as it was more a case of collecting ISOs whereas when I purchase a title I sit online, check the review etc.. and then decide. Much more satisfying experience overall as I don't really game that much any more but it is nice to have emulators, quality of life hacks and being able to rip discs etc..

All stuff the OG Xbox originated! What a spectacular platform that really was and arguably the last "scene" in which there was a good community and not prima donna hackers battling entitled children.

The Wii U currently wears the crown except its a very unappreciated console but a must have for all Nintendo fans as it gives you their entire library (almost!) in one place and it all plays perfectly.

The PSP was also a great machine that really came to life with the mods, especially the overclocking. Gamecube was also quite dope as I had mine fully pimped with a chip, spiced orange Icedcube case, some LEDs, internal Wavebird mods and various other bits and pieces including (at one point) a gyro I'd hooked up to the analog stick to approximate the Wii motion controls before it was released.

Will be interesting to see what the next gen brings in terms of BC as MS have been talking a big game but crap like not being able to play Outrun 2/C2C due to the Ferrari license is a big boo boo as that is easily a 10/10 game and I'll buy whatever platform they release a sequel/remake/remaster on in a heartbeat as its just so much fun.

Closet Nerd · Jun 20, 2019

FAST6191 said:
Going by the "my console is worthless" posts during the 360 days following DVD modding banwaves I am guessing it has been that way for a while, longer if we want to go back to the original xbox and see people do the boot into normal dash stuff and what went there. Those two were however two of the best systems in history for modding.

I similarly also watched a video the other day wherein someone asked people why they no longer play as many games. Time and time again the result seemed to be "online just got to be no fun".

Now it could be that online is the only thing modern games have to offer. Would explain a few things for me (I still like games, still have a great time to this day when I bust out the gamecube, xbox or 360) and would be a sad indictment of the state of games -- for all the "single player is dead... and then we got skyrim" stuff the broad trend could still have been that online and microtransactions is the future. The only question then becomes when will the party hard lifestyle take its toll?

What are your top 5 360 titles, FAST?

WiiHomebrew+Snes · Jun 20, 2019

Depends what you call old. If Saying last gen, not so much. Im more interested in what hacking a more modern and powerful system can bring about (like PS3 emulation on the PS4 pro... I think I heard of that being talked about somewhere). But if its old like a micro computer or the NES, then yes. always interesting to see what people can do with very limited and powerful hardware to me.

FAST6191 · Jun 20, 2019

Closet Nerd said:
What are your top 5 360 titles, FAST?

Hard one.

My top three RPGs that got me back into things after burning out on Final Fantasy clones was Resonance of Fate, Eternal Sonata and MagnaCarta 2. The first is getting a nice remake as we speak, and for the second then the PS3 version is probably the superior one here. To that end I don't know if I would suggest the 360 as the path of choice here, not to mention a lot of what I would mention also appeared on the PC with nice mods and better lots of things.

For the 360 it was more that it seemed like every month I was getting new and interesting stuff to play, maybe not stuff for the ages* but still stuff, and local co-op and LAN play was still a thing -- if nothing else Resident Evil 5 got played all the time because of that. Skate 2 and Skate 3... if they and all their DLC crashed into each other and I was left with a combo of both it would undoubtedly be the best skateboarding game ever made but as it stands then vanilla skate 2 or skate 3 with all the DLC is a pretty nice thing to have, something I have not yet been able to find an equivalent for (though it seems there might be something). Similarly despite having a gaming PC for most of the 360 lifetime I never felt like I was missing out on playing the vanilla versions of games on the 360 -- today you would pick a PC to play Skyrim but when it dropped I did fine with it.

*will I particularly need to play Deadly Premonition again? Will I need to thrust it upon friends and say play this? Probably not on both counts but definitely glad I was around to see it. Same for things like Two Worlds 2, Venetica, Alpha Protocol (which I was told when writing that has just been yanked from Steam due to rights issues -- my disc works just fine though), Vanquish, the Risen series, Ninety‑Nine Nights and Kingdoms of Amalur.

Here is the 360 end of my game shelf. I have a few games elsewhere right now (the resident evils are just out of shot with all the other resident evils, as is I think prince of persia), skate 2 is gone, as is forza, some mx vs atv titles (though I like the original xbox for those) and some other things I think I suffered the younger sibling effect for. Some of it I have for being nice examples of a mechanic, first new mechanic,

So yeah I think it was a combo of easy modding, local co-op, single player still reasonably being a thing, some people doing some nice experimental stuff, microtransactions not being crowbarred absolutely everywhere to the detriment of games themselves (look around say a Halo multiplayer and they will try to stripe you up for everything from more space to store your replays to certain skins but nothing like we see today) and enough of it all happening that to this day I still have a tiny bit of a backlog.

Closet Nerd · Jun 20, 2019

FAST6191 said:
Hard one.

My top three RPGs that got me back into things after burning out on Final Fantasy clones was Resonance of Fate, Eternal Sonata and MagnaCarta 2. The first is getting a nice remake as we speak, and for the second then the PS3 version is probably the superior one here. To that end I don't know if I would suggest the 360 as the path of choice here, not to mention a lot of what I would mention also appeared on the PC with nice mods and better lots of things.

For the 360 it was more that it seemed like every month I was getting new and interesting stuff to play, maybe not stuff for the ages* but still stuff, and local co-op and LAN play was still a thing -- if nothing else Resident Evil 5 got played all the time because of that. Skate 2 and Skate 3... if they and all their DLC crashed into each other and I was left with a combo of both it would undoubtedly be the best skateboarding game ever made but as it stands then vanilla skate 2 or skate 3 with all the DLC is a pretty nice thing to have, something I have not yet been able to find an equivalent for (though it seems there might be something). Similarly despite having a gaming PC for most of the 360 lifetime I never felt like I was missing out on playing the vanilla versions of games on the 360 -- today you would pick a PC to play Skyrim but when it dropped I did fine with it.

*will I particularly need to play Deadly Premonition again? Will I need to thrust it upon friends and say play this? Probably not on both counts but definitely glad I was around to see it. Same for things like Two Worlds 2, Venetica, Alpha Protocol (which I was told when writing that has just been yanked from Steam due to rights issues -- my disc works just fine though), Vanquish, the Risen series, Ninety‑Nine Nights and Kingdoms of Amalur.

Here is the 360 end of my game shelf. I have a few games elsewhere right now (the resident evils are just out of shot with all the other resident evils, as is I think prince of persia), skate 2 is gone, as is forza, some mx vs atv titles (though I like the original xbox for those) and some other things I think I suffered the younger sibling effect for. Some of it I have for being nice examples of a mechanic, first new mechanic,
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So yeah I think it was a combo of easy modding, local co-op, single player still reasonably being a thing, some people doing some nice experimental stuff, microtransactions not being crowbarred absolutely everywhere to the detriment of games themselves (look around say a Halo multiplayer and they will try to stripe you up for everything from more space to store your replays to certain skins but nothing like we see today) and enough of it all happening that to this day I still have a tiny bit of a backlog.

Wow what a reply, thanks.

Now that you mention Two Worlds 2 I'm reminded that I bought the paperback guide with the intention of buying but never played or purchased the game. It would be sweet if it made it to the XB1X enhanced list.

Do you prefer to mod new, or old consoles?

Are you into hacking/modding current-gen consoles, or do you prefer to stick with older ones?

Brand-new stuff is the best to tinker with!

There's still so much potential in those older systems..!

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