Homebrew Bounty 2018 Month 2: Switch Applications

blawar · Dec 28, 2018

Cyan said:
I'm sorry you found the rules not clear enough.
every time we make such contest, there are issues with users not understanding a part of it, and every time we try to fix or make things more clearer than previous ones.
We learn from things like that, comment from users, and try to make it understandable and without flow, but I guess there are always things we don't foresee.

I'm glad you also think it's a fun thing we are trying to do here.

I do not think you guys intentionally did anything wrong, I know you guys are doing this contest for the good of the community and I appreciate that. You have done more for the community than most everyone, including myself. It definitely increases moral of developers as well, which I think is a really good thing given the generally toxic scene.

blawar · Dec 29, 2018

cpasjuste said:
Hi,

I just released pPlay, a video player for the Nintendo Switch.
You can download pPlay from gbatemp download center : https://gbatemp.net/download/pplay.35351/
You'll find the official thread on gbatemp forums: https://gbatemp.net/threads/pplay-switch-video-player-coming-soon.526187/

A lot of time have been put in this project, i hope i'll win this category this time!

You had public releases 3 months ago on your github. And the main library created that you are using for the video playback, has had public releases 6 months ago. I don't think your program is eligible.

https://github.com/Cpasjuste/SDL_kitchensink/tree/e9aa0cf246d746371a0f9c42e9e49be7976c1253
https://github.com/Cpasjuste/pplay/tree/master/pplay

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ldn_mitm also appears to be partially ineligible as it has public releases before december:

https://github.com/spacemeowx2/ldn_mitm/commit/7b7a51728d6e64d7ed1a6227a582a770ecb76943

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SwitchThemeInjector also appears to be ineligible due to before December releases:

https://github.com/exelix11/SwitchThemeInjector/commit/4fbe6232db4b1d797ef5c12f0ca8ff1fd48f7b20

Scarlet · Dec 29, 2018

blawar said:
You had public releases 3 months ago on your github. And the main library created that you are using for the video playback, has had public releases 6 months ago. I don't think your program is eligible.

https://github.com/Cpasjuste/SDL_kitchensink/tree/e9aa0cf246d746371a0f9c42e9e49be7976c1253
https://github.com/Cpasjuste/pplay/tree/master/pplay

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ldn_mitm also appears to be partially ineligible as it has public releases before december:

https://github.com/spacemeowx2/ldn_mitm/commit/7b7a51728d6e64d7ed1a6227a582a770ecb76943

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SwitchThemeInjector also appears to be ineligible due to before December releases:

https://github.com/exelix11/SwitchThemeInjector/commit/4fbe6232db4b1d797ef5c12f0ca8ff1fd48f7b20

Where are these public releases? You're linking what exactly? Proof they worked on these before December? Something that was outlined as being fine in the rules? Leave it be. @Cyan is probably the most thorough among us here in knowing when things are released, and what's changed for the bounty versions. Leave it to him and things will be fine.

blawar · Dec 29, 2018

Scarlet said:
Where are these public releases? You're linking what exactly? Proof they worked on these before December? Something that was outlined as being fine in the rules? Leave it be. @Cyan is probably the most thorough among us here in knowing when things are released, and what's changed for the bounty versions. Leave it to him and things will be fine.

Im linking to public github where they released the code.

Why should I let it be? I am being told large portions of my app are excluded, while large portions of other apps are not being excluded. I am simply pointing out the hypocrisy, and how some apps, like mine and NX-Shell and being partially disqualified, while others are not. The easiest thing to do, is what I and others have said, just drop the eligibility date back to when the contest was announced.

edit: the contest should allow all of my app, pretty much all of NX-Shell, and Rei's Toolkit.

palantine · Dec 29, 2018

Just going to be honest here, the "window" thing was not clear at all, but even if it was its just silly because it encourages people to delay their app releases for months rather than putting them out there and working on them.

TheZander · Dec 29, 2018

I've been watching this thread recently because the influx of new apps should be coming in the next few days. I don't even understand why the nitpicking of rules. They haven't seemed to strict thus far and the only disqualification i have seen is due to the submission not being an app that runs on the switch. Where else has anyone even made any distinctions due to the window frame? Additionally the admin also said the judges have brains so will probably taken the submissions fairly. Ultimately it's not even the admin or mods deciding on the winners it's also the patrons and i forget the other voters but i don't see the reason to get hung up on rules.

It was actually so unprovoked that i feel was a premeditated issue to arise just to hassle.

I think you could also be disappointed that to one that i have seen so far has taken the low hanging fruit and start arguing politics with you. Perhaps even after you said what you intend on doing with the winnings you were ready yet it was still completely ignored which probably irritated you further.

blawar · Dec 29, 2018

TheZander said:
I've been watching this thread recently because the influx of new apps should be coming in the next few days. I don't even understand why the nitpicking of rules. They haven't seemed to strict thus far and the only disqualification i have seen is due to the submission not being an app that runs on the switch. Where else has anyone even made any distinctions due to the window frame? Additionally the admin also said the judges have brains so will probably taken the submissions fairly. Ultimately it's not even the admin or mods deciding on the winners it's also the patrons and i forget the other voters but i don't see the reason to get hung up on rules.

It was actually so unprovoked that i feel was a premeditated issue to arise just to hassle.

I think you could also be disappointed that to one that i have seen so far has taken the low hanging fruit and start arguing politics with you. Perhaps even after you said what you intend on doing with the winnings you were ready yet it was still completely ignored which probably irritated you further.

The issue came to a head, when my submission post was edited by a mod to show only the eligible parts of my change log. The disagreement did not come out of nowhere or manufactured.

Second, I only put a political message in my submission, because a political message was put into another submission (Lockpick). I am not criticizing lockpick for including political message, it is their software and their right, but it is also my right to protest by putting counter-political messages in my app.

TheZander · Dec 29, 2018

blawar said:
The issue came to a head, when my submission post was edited by a mod to show only the eligible parts of my change log. The disagreement did not come out of nowhere or manufactured.

Second, I only put a political message in my submission, because a political message was put into another submission (Lockpick). I am not criticizing lockpick for including political message, it is their software and their right, but it is also my right to protest by putting counter-political messages in my app.

It's your right, i was just saying i think you were expecting more attention for it which is why you brought up donating it.

To think your submission will only be based on the changelog would be odd. I still don't understand the full history behind your app but i know its vast.

blawar · Dec 29, 2018

TheZander said:
It's your right, i was just saying i think you were expecting more attention for it which is why you brought up donating it.

To think your submission will only be based on the changelog would be odd. I still don't understand the full history behind your app but i know its vast.

That is a reasonable conclusion. I did not want to publicly state it (though I had told people privately of my intentions). I only mentioned it publicly because I was accused of sittring up crap because I wanted the money which is far from the truth.

TheZander · Dec 29, 2018

blawar said:
That is a reasonable conclusion. I did not want to publicly state it (though I had told people privately of my intentions). I only mentioned it publicly because I was accused of sittring up crap because I wanted the money which is far from the truth.

Well now reading from the beginning It seems you were anticipating some kind of hassle back on the second of this month. From what i can see though it's that all cyan did was put the December changelog onto your post.

We'll see once the dead line is met. As it stands right now they're isn't a ton of competition.

cpasjuste · Dec 29, 2018

blawar said:
You had public releases 3 months ago on your github. And the main library created that you are using for the video playback, has had public releases 6 months ago. I don't think your program is eligible.

https://github.com/Cpasjuste/SDL_kitchensink/tree/e9aa0cf246d746371a0f9c42e9e49be7976c1253
https://github.com/Cpasjuste/pplay/tree/master/pplay

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ldn_mitm also appears to be partially ineligible as it has public releases before december:

https://github.com/spacemeowx2/ldn_mitm/commit/7b7a51728d6e64d7ed1a6227a582a770ecb76943

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SwitchThemeInjector also appears to be ineligible due to before December releases:

https://github.com/exelix11/SwitchThemeInjector/commit/4fbe6232db4b1d797ef5c12f0ca8ff1fd48f7b20

Your just fucking full of crap, from your first post to now, and with your crappy, closed source, licence fucking and "trump" themed thing.

1. Please, say me where you saw a public release of pPlay, I'm so impatient to see that. I can't imagine you even written your trump crap as you clearly don't know how git can work.
2. Maybe I didn't read the rules clearly, but I don't think it's forbbiden to use 3th party libraries. If you want to go this route, maybe your using SDL2 for rendering? Which was released some years ago? And which was, by the way, ported by me to the switch (yes, crap, you are here because of me..). You're probably using libnx too no? There was multiple releases of it...
3. Don't try to take a revenge because I asked for source code. This is all your crap. You're lucky, I'm moving to a new home this weekend, and so I don't have the time (nor the computer) to take a closer look at your thing (concerning licences), but I will soon, as promised.

Seriously, don't you understand? The amount of time we (libnx, sdl2, pacman..) put and share for you to make this app. Yes you can (could) make a closed source program, but it just show how bad you are against other users/devs.

Ev1l0rd · Dec 29, 2018

blawar said:
You had public releases 3 months ago on your github. And the main library created that you are using for the video playback, has had public releases 6 months ago. I don't think your program is eligible.

https://github.com/Cpasjuste/SDL_kitchensink/tree/e9aa0cf246d746371a0f9c42e9e49be7976c1253
https://github.com/Cpasjuste/pplay/tree/master/pplay

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ldn_mitm also appears to be partially ineligible as it has public releases before december:

https://github.com/spacemeowx2/ldn_mitm/commit/7b7a51728d6e64d7ed1a6227a582a770ecb76943

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SwitchThemeInjector also appears to be ineligible due to before December releases:

https://github.com/exelix11/SwitchThemeInjector/commit/4fbe6232db4b1d797ef5c12f0ca8ff1fd48f7b20

Quite frankly this just looks pathetic. You're targeting any competitors because they had their source code pushed before December.

Just because a projects source code has been pushed does not mean it has had reasonably stable releases (stable release -> publicly posted and supported version from the dev) from those commits.

hippy dave · Dec 29, 2018

lol.

The rules were clear.

exelix11 · Dec 29, 2018

Wow, at the end of the previous page everyone seemed calmed down and then....

blawar said:
You had public releases 3 months ago on your github. And the main library created that you are using for the video playback, has had public releases 6 months ago. I don't think your program is eligible.

https://github.com/Cpasjuste/SDL_kitchensink/tree/e9aa0cf246d746371a0f9c42e9e49be7976c1253
https://github.com/Cpasjuste/pplay/tree/master/pplay

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ldn_mitm also appears to be partially ineligible as it has public releases before december:

https://github.com/spacemeowx2/ldn_mitm/commit/7b7a51728d6e64d7ed1a6227a582a770ecb76943

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SwitchThemeInjector also appears to be ineligible due to before December releases:

https://github.com/exelix11/SwitchThemeInjector/commit/4fbe6232db4b1d797ef5c12f0ca8ff1fd48f7b20

Sorry but it's stronger than me, i can't help but smile at online drama, laugh at people getting upset over trivial things.
I usually just lurk and rarely take part in it but now i feel called into question so let me just throw in my two cents:
1) Even if i'm not an english native speaker the rules were pretty clear to me
2) This is just for the fun so please keep all the political crap out of it.
3) Telling if other devs respected the rules or not should be done by the mods and not by you.
4) Looking at the seemingly random commit you linked you didn't even bother to read what's my submission about and probably you didn't read the others as well.
5) I still don't get all the stuff that happened with the tinfoil name.
Please stop this nonsense and have actual fun when coding. I won't add anything else to this matter, have fun and happy holidays

.

The-4n · Dec 30, 2018

Guess who's back? Team Thonk

Back in October, We decided to release the best homebrew in history.
We received outstanding positive feedback from our first release, Nintendo is now testing every switch with our Thonk app before packing them, Miyamoto made Super Mario Thonk but kept it for himself cause he didn't think it can compete with our app anyway, Reggie also made a wall with switch consoles running our app in his home. Nearly all switches are running our app 24/7, no one runs any game on switch consoles anymore. Elon Musk contacted us and wants to send a switch console running our app to Mars instead of humans.

But..., One of our loyal members, @Draxzelex suddenly became interested in mop, he couldn't stop thonking about mop's handle, This could lead to a drama BUT REMEMBER TEAM THONK IS DRAMA FREE.
We couldn't let that happen, I couldn't involve other team members into this, I thonked a lot, spent many days thonking without sleeping, eating, ..., Suddenly I decided to make another app which i planned to release in 22nd century.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm proud to announce Thonkmop
Thonkmop is not only the best homebrew in history, but also it's the best thing that's ever made by humans.

Features:
Drama Free, Team Thonk doesn't give a f**k to anything and always have a solution for dramas
Super ultra mega best Quality, Made by head of the most skilled programmers in the world who are thonkers known as Team Thonk, Me!!!
Open-Source which is almost Closed-Source, Team Thonk advanced codes are open-source, you can use it although nearly no one can understand the super ultra mega complex algorithms of them

Core Features:
Imperfectly Balanced, Thonkmop is not exactly in middle of your screen, Right side has 1 px more margin than left side, thanks to the balancing technology of Team Thonk, You can now expect Captain Marvel to come and save humanity on April 24, 2019
No political shit, We are not interested in making a country great again, we already made switch scene great again, also we are not interested in multi-colored flags too, we thonk only true colors in the world are thonk colors which are yellow and brown
Name of the app, Yes, It's not Tinfoil, We thonked a lot and we found out that we can name our app something other than Tinfoil

Omega Core Feature:
EZ winner of homebrew bounty, cause developers will withdraw from competition as soon as they see Thonkmop

Closed Open-source code: https://gist.github.com/The-4n/3a7337bd65234a0689fefb5653fa6405
Download center link: https://gbatemp.net/download/thonkmop.35428/

Team Thonk members are: Me, others, except a few

—< Team Thonk, Rocking World since World War 2 and beyond! >—

hippy dave · Dec 30, 2018

^ FINALLY!

Cyan · Dec 30, 2018

it only displays a picture using sdl2, without any animation?
at least it has key input check! thanks for the effort

sorry, it'll not enter the bounty, we forgot to make a demo(scene) category
I'd love seeing a demoscene contest. Like procedurally generated animations contest.

XorTroll · Dec 30, 2018

Happy Holidays guys, here's my present: I'm submitting Goldleaf!
https://gbatemp.net/download/goldleaf-nintendo-switch-title-installer-manager.35430/

blawar · Dec 30, 2018

The-4n said:
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Guess who's back? Team Thonk

Back in October, We decided to release the best homebrew in history.
We received outstanding positive feedback from our first release, Nintendo is now testing every switch with our Thonk app before packing them, Miyamoto made Super Mario Thonk but kept it for himself cause he didn't think it can compete with our app anyway, Reggie also made a wall with switch consoles running our app in his home. Nearly all switches are running our app 24/7, no one runs any game on switch consoles anymore. Elon Musk contacted us and wants to send a switch console running our app to Mars instead of humans.

But..., One of our loyal members, @Draxzelex suddenly became interested in mop, he couldn't stop thonking about mop's handle, This could lead to a drama BUT REMEMBER TEAM THONK IS DRAMA FREE.
We couldn't let that happen, I couldn't involve other team members into this, I thonked a lot, spent many days thonking without sleeping, eating, ..., Suddenly I decided to make another app which i planned to release in 22nd century.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm proud to announce Thonkmop
Thonkmop is not only the best homebrew in history, but also the it's the best thing that's ever made by humans.

Features:
Drama Free, Team Thonk doesn't give a f**k to anything and always have a solution for dramas
Super ultra mega best Quality, Made by head of the most skilled programmers in the world who are thonkers known as Team Thonk, Me!!!
Open-Source which is almost Closed-Source, Team Thonk advanced codes are open-source, you can use it although nearly no one can understand the super ultra mega complex algorithms of them

Core Features:
Imperfectly Balanced, Thonkmop is not exactly in middle of your screen, Right side has 1 px more margin than left side, thanks to the balancing technology of Team Thonk, You can now expect Captain Marvel to come and save humanity in April 24, 2019
No political shit, We are not interested in making a country great again, we already made switch scene great again, also we are not interested in multi-colored flags too, we think only true colors in the world are thonk colors which are yellow and brown
Name of the app, Yes, It's not Tinfoil, We thonked a lot and we understood that we can name our app something other than Tinfoil

Omega Core Feature:
EZ winner of homebrew bounty, cause developers will withdraw from competition as soon as they see Thonkmop

Closed Open-source code: https://gist.github.com/The-4n/3a7337bd65234a0689fefb5653fa6405
Download center link: https://gbatemp.net/download/thonkmop.35428/

Team Thonk members are: Me, others, except a few

—< Team Thonk, Rocking World since World War 2 and beyond! >—

@Cyan is it too late for me to donate to GBATemp so I can vote for this?

Ev1l0rd · Dec 30, 2018

blawar said:
@Cyan is it too late for me to donate to GBATemp so I can vote for this?

Why did you quote me?

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Cyan said:
at least it has key input check! thanks for the effort

Not to be a dip much, but that's just from the example template in the libnx examples repo lol.

https://github.com/switchbrew/switch-examples/blob/master/templates/application/source/main.c

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