ROM Hack Pokemon X and Y Battle Analyzer

LimeWan · Dec 1, 2013

Professor Nick said:
You are clever... Quite intelligent I might even add. But let me tell you something, you are the biggest arsehole I've had the displeasure to know. You've ruined a perfectly good game even further than it already had been. This game was already exploited by projectpokemon.org as they are attempting to engineer a 6th Generation PokeGen. But you aren't helping matters by exploiting this game even further. You have ruined this game further than it already has been.

I hope you're happy with what you've done. And I also hope Nintendo fixes this and they shut down this shithole community as a price for what you've done...

LOL. People get WAY too caught up in flaming anything nowadays. 'The biggest arsehole'? Really? It's a freaking Pokemon game for goodness sake.

I bet you don't know the OP anymore than you do Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein, who in my opinion (I would assume the majority of people's opinion), are every so slightly bigger 'arseholes' than OP.

As you said yourself, the OP is indeed clever and intelligent, and if it isn't for people like the OP finding (and exploiting) these vulnerabilities, we would not be going forward in the security against these types of exploits, and other potential ones. Granted, the OP posted this on some forum as opposed to 'telling GameFreak' about it, but I thought that this was also a hacking community (If you don't believe me, just read the website's title header. Better yet, why don't you tell me which sub-forum we're in).

The reason I am taking the OP's side is because I believe in having such programs developed. Although having it open to random users could affect the online community (The main point of most posters here), the OP is no bad guy in my book, as he is simply discovering a new method of doing something.

If you must be angry at anyone, let it be the users that abuse this program. OP is as guilty as the inventor of the gun is for people getting shot to death.

Seph54 · Dec 1, 2013

You guys do know, that by reporting to nintendo or gamefreak, this is going to just lead them to fix other exploits that are connected to this one right? That would put everything back to square one unless you don't update.

Garro · Dec 1, 2013

Seph54 said:
You guys do know, that by reporting to nintendo or gamefreak, this is going to just lead them to fix other exploits that are connected to this one right? That would put everything back to square one unless you don't update.

This isn't an exploit, it's just reading sent data over wifi. This has nothing to do with 3DS hacking.

DarkKnigh_t · Dec 1, 2013

my opinion is OP great job but i wouldnt like it if i was playing online and people beat my cause they were using this app. i will always support devs but this if it spread would be really unfair

Satangel · Dec 1, 2013

Damn, pretty impressive, I hope this works out. Pretty handy and most definitely some form of cheating though. Still, worth a try

DunnoBro · Dec 2, 2013

LimeWan said:
LOL. People get WAY too caught up in flaming anything nowadays. 'The biggest arsehole'? Really? It's a freaking Pokemon game for goodness sake.

I bet you don't know the OP anymore than you do Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein, who in my opinion (I would assume the majority of people's opinion), are every so slightly bigger 'arseholes' than OP.

As you said yourself, the OP is indeed clever and intelligent, and if it isn't for people like the OP finding (and exploiting) these vulnerabilities, we would not be going forward in the security against these types of exploits, and other potential ones. Granted, the OP posted this on some forum as opposed to 'telling GameFreak' about it, but I thought that this was also a hacking community (If you don't believe me, just read the website's title header. Better yet, why don't you tell me which sub-forum we're in).

The reason I am taking the OP's side is because I believe in having such programs developed. Although having it open to random users could affect the online community (The main point of most posters here), the OP is no bad guy in my book, as he is simply discovering a new method of doing something.

If you must be angry at anyone, let it be the users that abuse this program. OP is as guilty as the inventor of the gun is for people getting shot to death.

You seem to be under the impression that hacking for hacking's sake is a noble concept worthy of praise, and there's some truth to that, but one has to wonder when the objective review of something like that showing that it's doing nothing but harm, that perhaps it shouldn't have been made at all. Or at least not made public.

As for the comparison to gun creation, that's a bit of a false equivalency because guns have always had uses other than murder since their inception, but this program has yet to actually produce a use other than harmful ones. It was created with only immediate problems foreseen, and no even tangible benefits to this day. You can claim that the breakthrough is of itself a good thing if you want, but in the end, it's accomplished nothing but problems. For the gaming community by getting their ladder shut down, for the hacking community for getting nintendo's attention and patch-crazy, sometimes there are discoveries that shouldn't have been. To some, such as myself, until it produces anything of worth than to cheaters, this discovery will be among them.

As I see it, this did nothing instacheck didn't already do, riding on it's coattails mostly even. And it'll be difficult to actually take credit for any packet-related breakthrough because instacheck was always there, and would most likely be the real reason for the breakthrough anyway. So OP, like this project, will probably always be seen as the nearsighted bringer of doom he may very well actually be.

LimeWan · Dec 2, 2013

DunnoBro said:
You seem to be under the impression that hacking for hacking's sake is a noble concept worthy of praise, and there's some truth to that, but one has to wonder when the objective review of something like that showing that it's doing nothing but harm, that perhaps it shouldn't have been made at all. Or at least not made public.

As for the comparison to gun creation, that's a bit of a false equivalency because guns have always had uses other than murder since their inception, but this program has yet to actually produce a use other than harmful ones. It was created with only immediate problems foreseen, and no even tangible benefits to this day. You can claim that the breakthrough is of itself a good thing if you want, but in the end, it's accomplished nothing but problems. For the gaming community by getting their ladder shut down, for the hacking community for getting nintendo's attention and patch-crazy, sometimes there are discoveries that shouldn't have been. To some, such as myself, until it produces anything of worth than to cheaters, this discovery will be among them.

As I see it, this did nothing instacheck didn't already do, riding on it's coattails mostly even. And it'll be difficult to actually take credit for any packet-related breakthrough because instacheck was always there, and would most likely be the real reason for the breakthrough anyway. So OP, like this project, will probably always be seen as the nearsighted bringer of doom he may very well actually be.

Call me biased, but I 'praise' hacking because it is something that fascinates me (The act of hacking and finding vulnerabilities. Not necessary the implementation of it).

Now I am not familiar with 'instacheck', but from this being the only thing in the forum I have read about grabbing 3DS network packets, I give it up to OP regardless (Assuming it is not a stolen program, which I do not believe it is). I believe in the same concept being implemented by different people, as different methods can be found to achieve the desired result, and can be later utilized to develop programs to enhance user experience (Rather than 'ruin' it, as people say, in its current implementation).

As for my gun comparison, my point was not in the gun itself, but rather that ideas should not be discouraged, as certain ones like this (which seems to have been created for a negative objective) can inspire others to build and discover other ideas of countering such programs, and can then be further developed in the future to create more advanced 'security infrastructure' for Nintendo (Just speculatin'. 'Bout that lyfe).

DunnoBro · Dec 2, 2013

LimeWan said:
Call me biased, but I 'praise' hacking because it is something that fascinates me (The act of hacking and finding vulnerabilities. Not necessary the implementation of it).

Now I am not familiar with 'instacheck', but from this being the only thing in the forum I have read about grabbing 3DS network packets, I give it up to OP regardless (Assuming it is not a stolen program, which I do not believe it is). I believe in the same concept being implemented by different people, as different methods can be found to achieve the desired result, and can be later utilized to develop programs to enhance user experience (Rather than 'ruin' it, as people say, in its current implementation).

As for my gun comparison, my point was not in the gun itself, but rather that ideas should not be discouraged, as certain ones like this (which seems to have been created for a negative objective) can inspire others to build and discover other ideas of countering such programs, and can then be further developed in the future to create more advanced 'security infrastructure' for Nintendo (Just speculatin'. 'Bout that lyfe).

Instacheck grabs packets too, that's likely where OP got this idea. It is not a stolen program though, just an application of previous works. But this isn't a breakthrough by that notion at all, so it would seem like your praise is ill-placed in that regard.

Instacheck is essentially this program, but for trades.

And agains, guns were never without positive uses. This program however, was and still is. (Granted, due to you not knowing of instacheck, i can definitely understand that had IC not existed, this would be a notable breakthrough with incontestable applications, but IC already opened almost, if not all those doors)

KazoWAR · Dec 3, 2013

DunnoBro said:
Instacheck grabs packets too, that's likely where OP got this idea. It is not a stolen program though, just an application of previous works. But this isn't a breakthrough by that notion at all, so it would seem like your praise is ill-placed in that regard.

Instacheck is essentially this program, but for trades.

And agains, guns were never without positive uses. This program however, was and still is. (Granted, due to you not knowing of instacheck, i can definitely understand that had IC not existed, this would be a notable breakthrough with incontestable applications, but IC already opened almost, if not all those doors)

Battle analyzercontains alot of my own code. he decompiled Instacheck and used our code for battle analyzer

isaac52 · Dec 3, 2013

KazoWAR said:
Battle analyzercontains alot of my own code. he decompiled Instacheck and used our code for battle analyzer

So it IS stolen code?

fierce waffle · Dec 3, 2013

KazoWAR said:
Battle analyzercontains alot of my own code. he decompiled Instacheck and used our code for battle analyzer

I decompiled instacheck and used the PKX decryption simply to save me time. It's been implemented in multiple languages and I could have taken the time to do it myself but that wasn't necessary. I also used the very simple code for the SharpPcap library.

isaac52 said:
So it IS stolen code?

Depends on what you define as stolen code. I just used the already open source PKX decryption as well as the interface for the SharpPcap library which is used widely.

Sheimi · Dec 4, 2013

Has the randomizer been released yet? It would make me feel better on Wifi Battles.

KazoWAR · Dec 4, 2013

Here it is, I gave the source to omegadonut like 3 days ago, he was going to add it to instacheck but i don't know if he did yet or not, so here it is for now.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/r0pfyiexq83r0m7/Pokemon+Wi-Fi+Anti-Cheat.rar

fierce waffle · Dec 4, 2013

KazoWAR said:
Here it is, I gave the source to omegadonut like 3 days ago, he was going to add it to instacheck but i don't know if he did yet or not, so here it is for now.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/r0pfyiexq83r0m7/Pokemon Wi-Fi Anti-Cheat.rar

Good job, mate.

Geren · Dec 13, 2013

There's a new update for pokemon XY. Apparently Instacheck is dead, which means this is no longer functional. I'm hope everyone is proud of this guy now.

Can anyone confirm?

EDIT: it is dead.
http://nuggetbridge.com/news/pokemo...=pokemon-x-y-version-1-2-patches-wifi-exploit

isaac52 · Dec 13, 2013

And so the prophecy is fulfilled, OP ruins everything for everyone everytime

tHciNc · Dec 13, 2013

So releasing the program ruined the game for everyone, and now since it cant be done anymore since 1.2 update he has ruined it for everyone again ????

Snailface · Dec 13, 2013

tHciNc said:
So releasing the program ruined the game for everyone, and now since it cant be done anymore since 1.2 update he has ruined it for everyone again ????

Pokemon is a religion, don't even try to understand it.

Duo8 · Dec 13, 2013

tHciNc said:
So releasing the program ruined the game for everyone, and now since it cant be done anymore since 1.2 update he has ruined it for everyone again ????

Problem is Instacheck is dead as well.

gamefan5 · Dec 13, 2013

Oooooooh, OP is gonna get a lot of flame and hate for this. Apparently the data for battles and trades have been encrypted. Meaning, the instacheck doesn't work anymore. Oooof

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