'XBOX ONE' ANNOUNCED!

the_randomizer · May 21, 2013

RodrigoDavy said:
Graphics of the Xbox One looks amazing, it makes both the Wii U and the PS4 seem like last-gen

You mean they aren't last gen?

And to the no backwards compatibility? I finally found a use for this

If videos aren't allowed to be posted, let me know

FAST6191 · May 21, 2013

lokomelo said:
I do not had time to watch it yet, but what about that shit that put snow, lights and other effects on the living room?

The projector stuff from a few weeks back? Did not mention word one of it, the best we got was some controller PCB shots (sadly the awful streaming meant I can tell you it is a green PCB soldermask, has rumble and not a lot else) and footage of the controller test/prototype lab afterwards on gametrailers (some nice stuff if you are that kind of engineer).

Foxi4 · May 21, 2013

ForteGospel said:
OMG Metroo apps are the best! day one buy for me! not...

Having the capacity to play a game on one side of the screen and browse the web with the other using the Kinect for walkthroughs or just holding a casual video conversation as you play using the Snap feature is cool. It's not a deal breaker, but it's a great feature - be objective.

On the competition's system you have to pause your game, put it to Background and then use the browser or the messaging software - on the XBox you don't and that's a unique feature. You can just snap whatever app you need right onto the side of the screen and carry on playing, it's awesome.

Now, I'm still not optimistic about the system - I think Microsoft is facing an insurrmountable task of trying to please everyone including non-gamers (hence the DVD/VHS Player-like appereance of the system, I think) but that particular feature is great.

Of course the software behind it comes with certain problems which I outlined in my earlier post - three kernels will take up more memory than just one, but for the first few years when "8GB of RAM will be more than enough" the benefits will outweigh the sacrifice of memory.

Just my 2 cents.

RodrigoDavy said:
Graphics of the Xbox One looks amazing, it makes both the Wii U and the PS4 seem like last-gen

The Wii U is an in-betweener, we already know that. As for the PS4, I think the graphics are comparable - go on ahead and refresh your memory with the PS4's tech demo's and the KillZone gameplay video.

wolf-snake · May 21, 2013

If this new xbox comes with a form of red ring of death I'll just stick with Nintendo and Sony like last gen. Seriously god damn 360 got the red ring of dead 1 week after I bought it.
Other than that the name is stupid and the 360 slim look better.
The visuals look meh and the box is huge I can see it taking up a lot of space on my room.

GBA rocks · May 21, 2013

Wombo Combo · May 21, 2013

I wonder how long it will take them to come out with a slim version. I think I'm going to go with PS4 if I get a new console unless they fuck up enormously.

Foxi4 · May 21, 2013

wolf-snake said:
If this new xbox comes with a form of red ring of death I'll just stick with Nintendo and Sony like last gen. Seriously god damn 360 got the red ring of dead 1 week after I bought it.
Other than that the name is stupid and the 360 slim look better.
The visuals look meh and the box is huge I can see it taking up a lot of space on my room.

Because the PS3 didn't suffer from YLOD's and the early Wii's didn't suffer from the lesser-known Blue Disc Slot of Death when their GPU's fried themselves.

C'mon. All early revisions of hardware come with certain flaws.

FAST6191 · May 21, 2013

wolf-snake said:
If this new xbox comes with a form of red ring of death I'll just stick with Nintendo and Sony like last gen. Seriously god damn 360 got the red ring of dead 1 week after I bought it.
Other than that the name is stupid and the 360 slim look better.
The visuals look meh and the box is huge I can see it taking up a lot of space on my room.

BGA failure is probably the third most common failure method for devices that come across my bench after switch failure and capacitor failure these days. Both the Wii (graphics corruption) and PS3 (YLOD) were BGA failures. This is not to say MS were not at fault but I imagine they stuck a envelope full of money into the hands of an engineer that knows about such things.
Also was it a new xbox, old stock, how long into the 360 lifetime?
Name sure, aesthetics we do not consult me on.
Visuals.... with what little gameplay there was I can see that and agreed that it will probably not be a massive leap unless you are already versed in 3d modelling and 3d graphics in which case people watching their 3d art staff balloon in recent years and that are under pressure to "be competitive" have probably developed a heart murmur as a result of the presentation.
Space wise -- I did a measurement of the size for it already. Barely bigger than an original PS3 even with my "add 10% for safety" which considering some are saying it has its own power brick is not bad.

Wombo Combo · May 21, 2013

Xbox One Will Not Function Without Kinect Attached
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-will-not-function-without-kinect-attached

Deleted member 194275 · May 21, 2013

There still is two details left for me made my decision to buy it on release:

1- MS still keep their ban for the third party controllers? (logitech G27 for example)
2- 360 games will be available for digital download?

FAST6191 said:
The projector stuff from a few weeks back? Did not mention word one of it, the best we got was some controller PCB shots (sadly the awful streaming meant I can tell you it is a green PCB soldermask, has rumble and not a lot else) and footage of the controller test/prototype lab afterwards on gametrailers (some nice stuff if you are that kind of engineer).

Yes, that projector feature! I hope they're saving it for E3. But if they tell nothing about it, maybe they droped the idea.

pwsincd · May 21, 2013

Just as well it comes in the box then I suppose, my wii won't function without my gamepad (properly)

Wombo Combo · May 21, 2013

pwsincd said:
Just as well it comes in the box then I suppose, my wii won't function without my gamepad (properly)

Only thing is some people dont want the Kinect at all. Some because it drives up the cost of console, some dont want kinect games, and others privacy reasons.

crysalim · May 21, 2013

FAST6191 said:
I did
Smart TVs are anything but. I have yet to see one with a web browser above android level and not even close to a real browser, the UIs are usually terrible and just bleh on all of it really.

"the -current- consoles"
Agreed they are nicer than you might expect, still awful in terms of format support, container support, a lot of non "big boy" streaming support (poke around XBMC some time for all the random radio stations), bad for youtube let alone something more exotic like vimeo, blip or such and it goes on.

media centers
AppleTV and Windows media player are actually not bad, still nothing compared to a proper PC though. If you mean the media hard drives then granted they are often better than current consoles but current consoles are nothing special.

Wireless sharing servers
I am a fan of the consumer level NAS if for no other reason than I have actually seen regular people take backups without prompting. Still got SMB, got wireless then you have that. Given I have had wireless for years and SMB for longer. upnp is anything but and DLNA is a joke.

The short version is even though the PC is not ideal if I hold it as a gold standard the rest of the consumer market has vast vast scope for improvement. To that end the xbox one (I am so not going to get used to typing "the one" in any time soon, that said one should use your one .....) could well find itself with a decent market much like the PS3 did OK as a blu ray player. That said got to love the raspberry pi (built a few in recent weeks) and I am looking at the ouya if it will have a native XBMC and not the ho hum android XBMC.

Pre apologies for quote mountain.

Everything you said here is pretty much spot on. I wanted to add that Smart TVs are different though because they easily enable native Netflix/Hulu/etc viewing without a PC. I am not sure if anyone actually uses them for a web browser, because they are indeed not suitable for it (especially with a regular TV remote)

I'm seeing a lot of content push at the XB1 launch, but that doesn't work so well for media. Shows and music are not device specific content like games are.

My absolute favorite right now is an unlocked Nexus 7 tablet. Hardware decoding for video (pretty much everything runs full speed) and extremely robust web browsing made it a must buy for me. I can see a LOT of people giving these all in one centers a look and asking themselves, "What does this do that my phone/tablet doesn't do again...?"

On a different subject I'm still really feeling the new dpad. Don't know why it took MS 10 years to acknowledge the superiority of the classic cross dpad but it's there now which is what matters. I would love to see Sony suck up their pride and use it as well (the indented dpad is so atrocious for fighters it's not even funny)

About not liking the built in Kinect:

blaisedinsd · May 21, 2013

It sounds like the negative rumors- always online, blocks used games- are pretty much true but Microsoft has some smooth talk to try spin it and soften the outcry. Microsoft-"well you can put a used game in your system and pay a fee online (it will be at least 90% of the purchase price who are we kidding) to install it and play it so yeah of course you can play used games"

If all games must be installed and you then do not need the disc and they are tied to an xbox account and you have to pay a fee to install the game on another account....that is pretty much yeah the console won't play used games. I am open to correction but that's what I have gathered from what I have seen.

Isn't the latest news on Sony is that they will allow publishers to block used games if they want to? Is there a publisher that wouldn't if they could? Isn't that basically a less terrible version of the console won't play used games (in some/possibly all cases).

KingVamp · May 21, 2013

Wombo Combo said:
Xbox One Will Not Function Without Kinect Attached
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-will-not-function-without-kinect-attached

Even when it isn't needed?

pwsincd said:
Just as well it comes in the box then I suppose, my wii won't function without my gamepad (properly)

Except Xbox one give you so many other options to navigate the menus, yet you can't even enter your game if something happen to it?
Kinect can't be easy to get repair or replace.

FAST6191 · May 21, 2013

lokomelo said:
There still is two details left for me made my decision to buy it on release:

1- MS still keep their ban for the third party controllers? (logitech for example)
2- 360 games will be available for digital download?

1- Though they did get into an interesting court case with Datel I doubt they dropped that ~~anti cheating method~~ particular cash cow. They do allow third parties though; they tend to have to buy and mod a normal controller, use a passthrough method (see some of the keyboard/mouse things) or speak to MS and buy in the relevant chips. I guess that also troubles my desire for keyboard and mouse on a console.

2- Tough call, emulation might be tough but presumably as a lot might have been built with C#/XNA/similar and other high level code we might see a few ports (or very limited scope emulation/interpreters but they will probably still call it a port), indeed there were a handful of game companies that did little but that for the PS3 this time around and the handhelds have seen such things for years.

@crysalim I forgot about SmartTV level hulu/netflix/"proper" streaming (more amusing it is about the only times I ever used pandora), still reckon that they should have started with something like android and either added to it or moved sideways and had a "netflix" channel type approach though.

Chary · May 21, 2013

What a terrible name. I mean, really, that name is as bad as the WiiU. Is the PS4 the only console with a name that sounds like it's something new?

Snappo · May 21, 2013

The names kinda lame... the best I've been able to come up for an abbreviation is the x1..

donaldgx · May 21, 2013

Will I be able to play the latest Nintendo 1st party games with this console? If no, not interested :hateit:

the_randomizer · May 21, 2013

Wombo Combo said:
Xbox One Will Not Function Without Kinect Attached
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-will-not-function-without-kinect-attached

Heh, that's cute of Microsoft.

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