DS #3512: Suikoden Tierkreis (Europe)
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Why is there no music in any of the towns? Or in any locations?
This is apparently related to undubbing the wrong thing, though I followed the instructions above.
This is apparently related to undubbing the wrong thing, though I followed the instructions above.
I think I've noticed this in other games, too. It's absolutely horrible. Letters need at minimum 5 pixels across to look legible, not 4.turtleclock said:
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They have really gotta slow down on the RPGs... There are way too many RPGs for DS. You won't finish them all in your lifetime.
Tell me if anyone does.
Tell me if anyone does.
nIxx said:Hi
to undub the game
replace the ds_data_hed.sdat,ds_data_vow.sdat in \data\rom and \data\rom\ex1 and all files in \data\movie (*.mods) with the japanese game files
I couldn´t make a patch because xdelta made me a patch file bigger as 100MBAre you sure this works later in the game? ds_data_vow.sdat from \data\rom\ and \data\rom\ex1 are both around 10 MByte bigger in the japanese version than in the english version, which makes the resulting ROM Image 260 MByte. Max filesize currently is 256 MByte, isn't it? Anyways, it's unbearable how it is now, I rather risk a crashing game than playing with that horrible dub.
Sweet, the intro movie has lyrics in the japanese version... so far everything works fine, the lip movements fit to the dub, everything is subbed. Japanese voice for Liu sounds horrible, though, too. But at least the overacting fits in japanese, in english it is just gross.
Anyone else thinks they should've compressed the voice audio a bit less? It's riddled in artifacts. Maybe less voice acting overall would've been more, in this case.
A reminder for the Linux folks:
You can extract/repackage NDS ROMs with the Linux version of ndstool from the Devkit Pro/Devkit ARM package. No need for fancy Windows GUIs.
Extract
Code:ndstool -x cvn-gst.nds -9 arm9.bin -y9 ober9.bin -7 arm7.bin -y7 over7.bin -d files -y overlay -t banner.bin -h header.bin
Repackage
CODEndstool -c v-suikot.nds -9 arm9.bin -y9 ober9.bin -7 arm7.bin -y7 over7.bin -d files -y overlay -t banner.bin -h header.bin
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crook said:
Same here, I'm too fast for the voice, and besides that I love that american voice from them, they sound great!
And I'm saying this even I'M actually german
Unless you want to know what you're doing. Anyways, it's funny nobody mentions dslazy. Or missing music.enarky said:
Off-topic. Point to a solution or don't point to anything at all.enarky said:
The undub renders music missing from towns and other locations, but not from battles or the large field area outside of the first town.
GreenBanana said:
I am at a loss of words regarding this statement, and kind of find it offensive as I love my language.
My question, is why not just learn Japanese, and play the import?
Goshogun1 said:GreenBanana said:
I am at a loss of words regarding this statement, and kind of find it offensive as I love my language.Seriously? Spoken correctly, the English language can sound very interesting and certainly isn't "bureaucratic gibberish". No offense, but those who think that Japanese is the only language that should be spoken in games make me shake my head. Dubbed movies are one thing I refuse to watch, but games and most Anime I can usually tolerate unless they are outright horrible.
My question, is why not just learn Japanese, and play the import?
Because japanese is hellish hard and needs too much effort just to play games... And I'm classifying this game in particular as outright horrible dub.
And, really. Games should be dual audio for a long time now... I mean, it's already done, why scrape the original voice work? That way gamers could CHOOSE. But I guess this couldn't be done in this one, since the voice files are so damn big...
Personally I am going to learn Japanese just to play games, but thats just me. Having way more access to enjoying my hobby seems worth it.blackdogassault said:
But it isn't really voice-work anymore if all you are doing is reading. Sure, the Japanese voices might sound better in tone. I am just bothered by those people who say just about any dub sucks because it isn't in Japanese. I can't stand when people try to say one language is better than another. Language elitism for languages you can't actually understand?
And yeah, dual audio should be there, but only a small portion of fans really care, so you will rarely see this implemented by companies. Maybe I just don't mind dubs that much anymore. It's not like I am watching a Kurosawa film or something. Hope I am not pissing anyone off.
Oh well, I am just glad this gem is coming here at all!
Lol. For people who opened up the rom in DSlazy or whatever, look in the /misc directory -- notice anything odd? Try viewing the contents of the 00do.bat file.
I'm pretty sure that that's not supposed to be there... someone working on the game was lazy.
EDIT: Oh, for the undub: Only replace the files in the \data\rom\movie directory, and the ds_data_vow.sdat files in both \data\rom and \data\rom\ex1. Don't touch the ds_data_hed.sdat files. That's what breaks the music, I think.
At least, assuming the music in the first town when you start the game is part of what breaks with the previous suggestion for undubbing. I only changed those files (on the assumption that the 'v' in 'vow' is for voice, and we don't want to touch anything else), and it seems to have worked.
Note, for those who are worried, that even if you do this the movies are subtitled in whatever language you choose when you start the game -- one of the advantages to playing the Eur multilanguage version. Therefore, you will still be able to understand what is going on.
I'm pretty sure that that's not supposed to be there... someone working on the game was lazy.
EDIT: Oh, for the undub: Only replace the files in the \data\rom\movie directory, and the ds_data_vow.sdat files in both \data\rom and \data\rom\ex1. Don't touch the ds_data_hed.sdat files. That's what breaks the music, I think.
At least, assuming the music in the first town when you start the game is part of what breaks with the previous suggestion for undubbing. I only changed those files (on the assumption that the 'v' in 'vow' is for voice, and we don't want to touch anything else), and it seems to have worked.
Note, for those who are worried, that even if you do this the movies are subtitled in whatever language you choose when you start the game -- one of the advantages to playing the Eur multilanguage version. Therefore, you will still be able to understand what is going on.
Wow, crap dubs are crap. Geez i dont even want to play the game anymore after hearing the main characters voice....who in the hell talks that damned fast its friggin stupid.
Still playing it atm....may change soon
Still playing it atm....may change soon
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i get a white screen when i try to load this rom on my R4DS. anyone else having this problem? does this game need to be patched first? or did i get a bad dump?
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