ROM Hack Oldies Project Tiny Toons Adventures DX for Game Boy : colorization project

lordelan · Oct 12, 2024

MeXen said:
May i suggest a color scheme more akin to this to save on palette memory?

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It lacks the nice shadowing though.

Brand Newman · Oct 12, 2024

MeXen said:
May i suggest a color scheme more akin to this to save on palette memory?

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Hello.

Thank you for your suggestion, but to achieve having white eyes and black outlines, I need to use two palettes anyway : so I figured I might as well keep the shadows, which are more proeminent with Hamton's sprites than they are with others'.

In your suggestion, the colors counter would be of 4, which can only be achieved by using two palettes, since the brighter color is always transparent (leaving 3 colors for one palette).

Mine is of six, as evidenced below :
first palette has pink + green + black
second palette has white + darker pink + blue.

So you see, in any case, the same amount of palettes will be used : don't worry though, every time you select a character, the first two palettes are updated, leaving 5 more for other sprites anytime.

Brand Newman · Oct 24, 2024

Overlayed main sprites are finished. Had to make the hard decision to remove Hamton's shade, so I can have a common 2nd palette for the 3 of them, based on Plucky. This saves 1 palette for the vegetables, and gives me 1 more for other sprites. But look, Buster got his tooth back!

MeXen · Oct 24, 2024

Brand Newman said:
Overlayed main sprites are finished. Had to make the hard decision to remove Hamton's shade, so I can have a common 2nd palette for the 3 of them, based on Plucky. This saves 1 palette for the vegetables, and gives me 1 more for other sprites. But look, Buster got his tooth back!

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How about giving Hamtom's pants the same color as Buster's fur so that you save another pallette

Brand Newman · Oct 25, 2024

MeXen said:
How about giving Hamtom's pants the same color as Buster's fur so that you save another pallette

I need two palettes anyway (one is green + orange + black, and the other one depends on the character - for example Hamton is pink, but Buster needs red).

That being said, I was suggested to use orange for Hamton's shadow, which could actually blend in quite well : I'll make some tests this WE.

lordelan · Oct 25, 2024

Brand Newman said:
Overlayed main sprites are finished. Had to make the hard decision to remove Hamton's shade, so I can have a common 2nd palette for the 3 of them, based on Plucky. This saves 1 palette for the vegetables, and gives me 1 more for other sprites. But look, Buster got his tooth back!

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Great compromise I guess. They look superb!

Brand Newman · Nov 3, 2024

It may not look like much, but the GUI at the bottom of the screen is now entirely white! (The faces are not set yet, since they depend on who you're playing, so I have to add some more tricks now that I'm replacing tiles).

lordelan · Nov 3, 2024

Brand Newman said:
It may not look like much, but the GUI at the bottom of the screen is now entirely white! (The faces are not set yet, since they depend on who you're playing, so I have to add some more tricks now that I'm replacing tiles).

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Bet u're learning a lot along the way.

marc_max · Nov 3, 2024

Awesome @Brand Newman !!

SDA · 2024-11-21T19:28:21+0000

Brand Newman said:
It may not look like much, but the GUI at the bottom of the screen is now entirely white! (The faces are not set yet, since they depend on who you're playing, so I have to add some more tricks now that I'm replacing tiles).

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I would suggest to make the status bar black, since now every colorization out there does that.

By doing so, you can redraw the faces on the HUD so they blend with the black color for outlines, and the rest of them use three different colors.

In Buster's case, his face on the HUD can use blue, white and pink for his nose, while details like the outlines and eyes are basically transparent.

Brand Newman · 2024-11-21T20:45:06+0000

SDA said:
I would suggest to make the status bar black, since now every colorization out there does that.

By doing so, you can redraw the faces on the HUD so they blend with the black color for outlines, and the rest of them use three different colors.

In Buster's case, his face on the HUD can use blue, white and pink for his nose, while details like the outlines and eyes are basically transparent.

I'll admit it's a neat idea, especially since I've been fighting against the game for weeks to update the faces' colors : it's very weird, as the palette gets updated (I can see the specification changing), but the colors don't.

I suspect it's because the face displayed is actually copied from another tile with a slight offset, but knowing it doesn't help me much : which means I might have to cope with a single palette, instead of switching between two, as I intended to.

That being said, a black status bar feels... a bit out of place for this game (whereas I have no trouble with it for Megaman, for example) : I was thinking about altering the faces a bit to give them the same "stylized" visual Hamton's has (I always thought his to be cooler than the others).

I'll make some more tests, and see what suits better.

SDA · 2024-11-21T20:55:12+0000

Brand Newman said:
I'll admit it's a neat idea, especially since I've been fighting against the game for weeks to update the faces' colors : it's very weird, as the palette gets updated (I can see the specification changing), but the colors don't.

I suspect it's because the face displayed is actually copied from another tile with a slight offset, but knowing it doesn't help me much : which means I might have to cope with a single palette, instead of switching between two, as I intended to.

That being said, a black status bar feels... a bit out of place for this game (whereas I have no trouble with it for Megaman, for example) : I was thinking about altering the faces a bit to give them the same "stylized" visual Hamton's has (I always thought his to be cooler than the others).

I'll make some more tests, and see what suits better.

Even the Tiny Toons game on the NES does a similar thing, and not only with the HUD. This image is an example, which, coincidentally, sees Hamton himself.

Brand Newman · 2024-11-21T21:03:18+0000

SDA said:
Even the Tiny Toons game on the NES does a similar thing, and not only with the HUD. This image is an example, which, coincidentally, sees Hamton himself.
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I know, but that's the thing : the Nes version is using black for pretty much everything, but first there are some technical limitations I've met earlier that prevent me to do so (for example the credits at the beginning, which only loads tiles where text is, meaning I can't change the palette of the rest of the screen unless I really dive into ASM).
And to be honest, I like the fact that the game boy version of a game has a different style which makes it recognizable from its nes counterpart. Many games did that in their time, even after game boy color was released.
If I decide to go for black, I'll have to harmonize a lot of things, and I'm not even sure I will be able to.

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