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Crony capitalism isn't a thing, because no one who believes in it can point to a system without it. It's just a meaningless buzzword used in place of acknowledging inherent inequalities in the US that are the result of capitalism explicitly.
Probably because every country has central banks that are ruled by a few, but you ain't ready for that conversation yet.
 

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Probably because every country has central banks that are ruled by a few, but you ain't ready for that conversation yet.
You still believe in currency as a concept. There is no conversation with me on economics that you will ever be ready for until you free yourself of the money delusion.
 

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The ball's already rolling. Garland wouldn't signed off on the warrant and shattered his non-partisan veneer for documents pertaining to the White House's plumbing. Nor would Wray cross the guy who appointed him for nothing.
Really? The FBI has already been caught falsifying data for FISA warrants. They just happened to present this warrant to the Federal Magistrate who defended Jeffrey Epstein's employees as an attorney. The corruption is staring you in the face and you refuse to look at it.

That's alright, seeing you react on here when it all plays out will be worth it.
 

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If you are talking about fiat currency, then we are probably in agreement.
Oh no, I don't believe in currency conceptually. Things like the gold standard were disastrous for economics, fiat for all its flaws is superior, but I still loathe them both.
 

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Really? The FBI has already been caught falsifying data for FISA warrants.
For this warrant specifically? Didn't think so. Not even Trump has made that claim AFAIK. Just another desperate stroll into your fantasy land.

They just happened to present this warrant to the Federal Magistrate who defended Jeffrey Epstein's employees as an attorney.
Okay? And Trump had Epstein killed in a prison that was being overseen by William Barr. Has nothing to do with the topic at hand, and it doesn't invalidate the warrant or any forthcoming charges.
 

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Oh no, I don't believe in currency conceptually. Things like the gold standard were disastrous for economics, fiat for all its flaws is superior, but I still loathe them both.
Gold has been used since the beginning of human civilization. Fiat currency does nothing but decimate savings and make poor people even poorer. Only central bankers prefer fiat currency.
 

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For this warrant specifically? Didn't think so. Not even Trump has made that claim AFAIK. Just another desperate stroll into your fantasy land.


Okay? And Trump had Epstein killed in a prison that was being overseen by William Barr. Has nothing to do with the topic at hand, and it doesn't invalidate the warrant or any forthcoming charges.
Do you even know who Kevin Clinesmith is or do I have to take you on a stroll down memory lane?

You got any sauce for that claim that Trump had Epstein killed because that's a pretty bold statement, especially since Ghislane Maxwell is still alive. We still don't know who her clients are. One would think if Trump was one them, it would have been "leaked" to the "press" by now.
 

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Ah yes, the famous central banker who hates currency as a concept and wants to abolish private property. Those goofy bankers, always hating private property.
They like their own private property, they just don't like other people having private property. It's the ultimate hypocrisy of communists and leftists in general.
 

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Do you even know who Kevin Clinesmith is or do I have to take you on a stroll down memory lane?
I wouldn't know him from Adam, nor does it make any fucking difference. If/when charges are brought against Trump, they'll come from the DoJ. Whine about the moderate centrist Garland all you want, the evidence will speak for itself during trial.

You got any sauce for that claim that Trump had Epstein killed because that's a pretty bold statement, especially since Ghislane Maxwell is still alive.
It's just one of those connect the dots type of deals. The circumstances surrounding Epstein's murder were extremely suspicious, and the only people with the access to make both the security guards and cameras disappear for the night would've been Trump and Barr. Maxwell is a lower-level crony, plus she never had to be in a prison overseen by Barr.

One would think if Trump was one them, it would have been "leaked" to the "press" by now.
Oh we already know that Trump was in Epstein's black book, along with a lot of other rich and politically connected folk.
 

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I wouldn't know him from Adam, nor does it make any fucking difference. If/when charges are brought against Trump, they'll come from the DoJ. Whine about the moderate centrist Garland all you want, the evidence will speak for itself during trial.


It's just one of those connect the dots type of deals. The circumstances surrounding Epstein's murder were extremely suspicious, and the only people with the access to both make the security guards and cameras disappear for the night would've been Trump and Barr. Maxwell is a lower-level crony, plus she never had to be in a prison overseen by Barr.


Oh we already know that Trump was in Epstein's black book, along with a lot of other rich and politically connected folk.
Your lack of knowledge is the reason why you will be blindsided by what happens.

You're throwing shit again with no evidence.

Do you have proof that Trump was an actual client? Was he at Epstein's island? His New Mexico ranch? His New York residence? Are there pictures of Trump and Rachel Chandler? The answers to those questions are No. No. No. And No.

In other words, you have nothing, nada, zilch. All that hopium you've been carrying around for so long much be getting heavy.
 

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Yet to be verified or disproved. Just another wait and see.
You could have stopped at yet to be verified. One does not have to disprove against their government. It's their job to prove their case. It's that innocent until proven guilty concept that the left hates so much.
 

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