roeVwade:Same-sex couples updating legal status after Supreme Court’s decision on abortion (Jay Reeves) [+CNN clip]

[TraderPatTX]

The purpose of marriage is to have children? Are you that stupid?
I don't suppose you believe dogs get married too don't you?
I haven't seen a single animal having marriage to procreate. Maybe in your virtual world they do.
Also marriage doesn't have thousands of years, it's the result of religion.
Got any actual fact that isn't based on the Bible?

I swear I can never know who dumber, the woke or the religious nutjobs.
It's like you guys are constantly fighting to see who makes your political side more laughable.

First of all, I never mentioned the Bible. One of my previous comments specified the Hindu religion, but people here are only interested in attacking Christianity, because that is easy. What would be so stunning and so brave is if you went after Islam, which bans LGBTQLMNOP+ entirely and is punishable by death, but you ain't ready for that conversation.

Animals don't get married. For one, they can't recite vows, and two most animals lack the ability to wear rings.

An earlier argument said that marriage is not the result of religion, so take it up with your brain dead twin leftist up above. That was the reason I mentioned Hinduism.

I don't know if no leftist here can read or if all of you are really programmed by the corporate media to say the same thing every time, but I have not once ever mentioned Christianity or the Bible. All of my arguments have been based in history and science. This is why I can't even tell you people apart anymore. You all comment the using the same words and phrases with the same lame attacks. The left is actually boring to talk to now. The only fun part is watching you cry all over these threads.

 

[TraderPatTX]

I'm pretty sure none of those people from the democrat party of 1860's are still alive.

Your "clever" ploy of trying to link events from 162 years ago to today, to try to take criticism away from a criminal who was in the white house until very recently and has so far evaded punishment, is pretty transparent though.

Yes, the bad orange man. The "criminal" who keeps evading punishment, even after 5+ years of investigations by multiple entities from the DOJ/FBI to the SDNY to the IRS to Georgia. Who are these people investigating him? The Keystone Cops?

It's amazing he keeps escaping "justice" and keeps playing golf and holding rallies almost every single week. The guy is not even worried. Oh wait, don't tell me. The J6 committee will get him for sure, amirite. I thoroughly enjoyed hearing the story of how Trump managed to wrestle a Secret Service agent half his age and years of combat training with his under sized hands while inside of the cramped quarters of the Beast, I mean, the presidential SUV. You guys spent years saying Trump was frail. He couldn't drink water or walk down a ramp, but now he's taking out Secret Service agents.

You people are so obsessed with him, you don't even care about the runaway inflation and gas prices. Which is why no solutions are being offered. It's gonna be fun watching you all melt down in November.

 

[smf]

riminal" who keeps evading punishment, even after 5+ years of investigations by multiple entities from the DOJ/FBI to the SDNY to the IRS to Georgia. Who are these people investigating him? The Keystone Cops?

In the end, they only managed to get Al Capone on tax evasion.

Trump paid off a lot of his victims of fraud before he entered the white house.

 

[SyphenFreht]

You people are so obsessed with him, you don't even care about the runaway inflation and gas prices. Which is why no solutions are being offered. It's gonna be fun watching you all melt down in November.

It's fun to see you call lefties "obsessed" when you people will fall over yourselves voting for him again.

Or defend his incitation of the J6 debacle (I can't even call it an insurrection in good faith. It was a bunch of morons crying at the Capitol)

Or constantly have Biden's name in your mouth when it comes to things that don't have anything to do with him. Like, inflation. Like, gas prices in general. For someone who accuses everyone of having a hard on for the government, you sure like to blame the government for everything when it isn't Republican ran. And for someone who talks down to others about their "corporate megalords" or whatever you called them earlier, you sure do defend them a lot in an effort to blame another shitty presidential figurehead.

Lucy, you got an awful lot of 'splainin' to do.

 

[The Catboy]

What's the issue against gay marriage with you in particular? I've seen you mention before that it's an agenda; I'm curious to know what you think this agenda entails. Is it only an affront to your religion or is there something deeper?

XDel is just a hateful conspiracy nutjob.

As for the topic, it has never been about stopping with just Roe V Wade, it's always been about dragging the world back to the worst times. It's always been about controlling people because Conservatives and Fascists hate freedom that isn't on their terms. They hate that LGBT+ people are living their lives. They hate that women have any kind of body anatomy. They hate that the world has become a better place and that better place isn't the hateful future they were hoping for.

 

[Creamu]

XDel is just a hateful conspiracy nutjob.

As for the topic, it has never been about stopping with just Roe V Wade, it's always been about dragging the world back to the worst times. It's always been about controlling people because Conservatives and Fascists hate freedom that isn't on their terms. They hate that LGBT+ people are living their lives. They hate that women have any kind of body anatomy. They hate that the world has become a better place and that better place isn't the hateful future they were hoping for.

But why do they hate so much?

 

[The Catboy]

But why do they hate so much?

I have guesses and know that answer is subjective to each person. Most is just a fear or hatred of change.

 

[SyphenFreht]

XDel is just a hateful conspiracy nutjob.

I got that from the last time we conversed lol. He's so confused with his own religion he has a hard time understanding anyone else's views.

As for the topic, it has never been about stopping with just Roe V Wade, it's always been about dragging the world back to the worst times. It's always been about controlling people because Conservatives and Fascists hate freedom that isn't on their terms. They hate that LGBT+ people are living their lives. They hate that women have any kind of body anatomy. They hate that the world has become a better place and that better place isn't the hateful future they were hoping for.

Exactly. And they have a penchant for altering history to meet their needs. They're slowly coming to a decline, however and they know it. That's why they've been so adamant and aggressive; the world, at least from what I've experienced, is slowly becoming a better place when it comes to people realizing their own value, and those who wish to control can't stand that. It's progressiveness on a global scale.

 

[Jambione]

I happen to feel that liberals are so misguided and confused. Its really sad, because I feel they are (most of the time) good people, but just brain washed as to the reality of life. That way since childhood, due to schools, media and culture.

Roe V. Wade was bad law. It should be overturned, and left to the states. Other culture issues should be the same. IE same sex marriage. That is the point of federalism. Thank God for that.

 

[The Catboy]

I happen to feel that liberals are so misguided and confused. Its really sad, because I feel they are (most of the time) good people, but just brain washed as to the reality of life. That way since childhood, due to schools, media and culture.

Roe V. Wade was bad law. It should be overturned, and left to the states. Other culture issues should be the same. IE same sex marriage. That is the point of federalism. Thank God for that.

Care to elaborate? What is that Liberals are misguided and confused about?
Why was Roe V Wade a bad law? Why should people’s marriages be limited by the states instead of just being accepted? What about heterosexual marriage and interracial marriage, should those be limited by the state?

 

[LainaGabranth]

There are indeed, but it doesn't mean that what they are promoting is true. There are lots of nutty people out there that call them selves all sort of things from Christian, to Buddhist, to Atheist, what is your point?

As for the link in my avatar, it's not a conspiracy theory but a study of tactics that have been and are being used. You people carry on like there is no such thing as social engineering, marketing, propaganda, and the like, and that your thoughts and opinions are clear and are birthed from the depths of your own original thought; never having been tainted by the influences of the world around you. Until you have faced the truth of your self in the proverbial wilderness, you can never know truth but rather illusion.

hey i hope you weren't religious when you wrote this because it'd be really funny

 

[TraderPatTX]

In the end, they only managed to get Al Capone on tax evasion.

Trump paid off a lot of his victims of fraud before he entered the white house.

LOL!! That's why he's still playing golf and holding rallies. Next you're gonna tell me that he assaulted a Secret Service agent and took control of the presidential SUV. LOL!! Remember when Michael Avenatti was gonna bring Trump down? Whatever happened to him? How about that pee pee tape? How's that workin' out for ya?

Are the walls closing in around dRumpf or is this the beginning of the end for him?

 

[omgcat]

First of all, I never mentioned the Bible. One of my previous comments specified the Hindu religion, but people here are only interested in attacking Christianity, because that is easy. What would be so stunning and so brave is if you went after Islam, which bans LGBTQLMNOP+ entirely and is punishable by death, but you ain't ready for that conversation.

umm, there isn't a Islamic force in America trying to overturn the right to gay marriage. i'll worry about Islam once Islam is a problem in America. what IS a problem is all of the white nationalist christofascist attacks in America.

 

[The Catboy]

Hetero marriage is different because hetero sex normally results with children. That was the purpose of marriage for thousands of years.

Heterosexual marriage isn't different from same-sex marriage. Having kids is not the only purpose for marriage, there have been countless different reasons for marriages. Everything from connecting tribes, uniting kingdoms, expanding family workforces, and even just because people love each other. Same-sex marriage has also been a large part of history and not just in recent decades.

Abortion is murder because somebody dies every single time. It is pre-meditated and not by accident. Just like when a criminal kills a pregnant lady, often the criminal will be charged with double homicide. It's already law and is not controversial.

Abortions are still going to happen regardless of your stance on the matter. Legality only kept abortions safe and in the offices of doctors. As are same-sex marriages, for that matter. No amount of fussing is going to stop these things, they are just going to happen elsewhere.

 

[TraderPatTX]

umm, there isn't a Islamic force in America trying to overturn the right to gay marriage. i'll worry about Islam once Islam is a problem in America. what IS a problem is all of the white nationalist christofascist attacks in America.

You should go visit Michigan.

Also, define fascist, because it doesn't mean people you disagree with. There is an actual definition to it that involves totalitarianism. We are thrilled that abortion is being sent back to the states to be voted on because we are a constitutional republic and the Supreme Court should not be in the business of creating rights. Our rights are already outlined in the Constitution. The left are the ones who want 9 unelected people to created law in this country. I'd rather have state legislatures create law since we actually vote for those people.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Heterosexual marriage isn't different from same-sex marriage. Having kids is not the only purpose for marriage, there have been countless different reasons for marriages. Everything from connecting tribes, uniting kingdoms, expanding family workforces, and even just because people love each other. Same-sex marriage has also been a large part of history and not just in recent decades.

Abortions are still going to happen regardless of your stance on the matter. Legality only kept abortions safe and in the offices of doctors. As are same-sex marriages, for that matter. No amount of fussing is going to stop these things, they are just going to happen elsewhere.

I never said it was the only purpose. Just the main purpose. Marriages connecting tribes and uniting kingdoms were heterosexual marriages too because the couple were required to create heirs. Do you even read, bro?

Dr. Gosnell enters the chat.

https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...ls-trial-should-be-a-front-page-story/274944/

Define safe. You word you keep using, I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[omgcat]

You should go visit Michigan.

Also, define fascist, because it doesn't mean people you disagree with. There is an actual definition to it that involves totalitarianism. We are thrilled that abortion is being sent back to the states to be voted on because we are a constitutional republic and the Supreme Court should not be in the business of creating rights. Our rights are already outlined in the Constitution. The left are the ones who want 9 unelected people to created law in this country. I'd rather have state legislatures create law since we actually vote for those people.

Definition of fascism​

1. often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition


Christian fascism is a far-right political ideology that denotes the intersection between fascism and Christianity, encompassing the fascistic, totalitarian, and imperialistic aspects of the Christian Church.

when people have had the right to something for nearly 50 years and it gets arbitrarily ripped away by a partisan set of judges, people are going to lose their shit. one of the biggest issues is that the supreme court justices (specifically Thomas) are ASKING for people to bring cases to them so they can overturn previous rulings. This means we have judges who already have a decision made up BEFORE a case is brought to them. Thomas mentioned Griswold vs. Connecticut (right to contraception), Lawerence v. Texas (sodomy laws, e.g. two consenting adults, gay or otherwise, being able to have oral or anal sex), and Obergefell v. Hodges which bars states from banning gay marriage.

the stripping of women's right to choose, the coming return of sodomy laws, and the removal of access to contraceptives is basically forcing Christian religious values on a non-religious country, basically establishing a core religion in the USA even though the 1st amendment doesn't allow such. we are starting to see active and stochastic terrorism based on "stop the woke" and anti-trans/gay sentiment.

 

[The Catboy]

I never said it was the only purpose. Just the main purpose. Marriages connecting tribes and uniting kingdoms were heterosexual marriages too because the couple were required to create heirs. Do you even read, bro?

Dr. Gosnell enters the chat.

https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...ls-trial-should-be-a-front-page-story/274944/

Define safe. You word you keep using, I do not think it means what you think it means.

You seem to really be fixated on this idea that people aren’t reading your posts. I read your post and I replied to it. As for your article, those illegal abortions and practices, this is stated in the article. Unfortunately illegal practices still continue and people still get hurt by them. But that’s a minority while Roe v Wade was still in effect. Under Roe v Wade, we saw a drastic drop in abortion related death, including many years where deaths caused by illegal abortions were zero. We’ve also seen a drastic drop in deaths during legal abortions.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/ss/ss7009a1.htm#T15_down
Simply put, abortions have gotten cleaner and safer since it was moved out of dirty motels to professional environments. As I stated before, abortions are going to continue to happen. I would much rather see individual having abortion come back home alive. Also same-sex marriage is still the same as heterosexual marriage.

 

[MartyDreamy]

As I stated before, abortions are going to continue to happen. I would much rather see individual having abortion come back home alive. Also same-sex marriage is still the same as heterosexual marriage.

^^^^^^ THIS!!!!!

keep your hands out of OUR body and OUR marriages!!!!

 

[Creamu]

keep your hands out of OUR body and OUR marriages!!!!

What about needles?