The situation in Ukraine...

[JoeBloggs777]

Anyway, I hope the war will end soon. So many ukrainian men have died, what has it achieved?

ask Putin, They died because Russians invaded THEIR country.

 

[Creamu]

ask Putin, They died because Russians invaded THEIR country.

Putin told me that ukkraine was a pawn of the west.

 

[Deleted member 194275]

Putin told me that ukkraine was a pawn of the west.

then why he did not invade the west instead? He is not man enough?

 

[Creamu]

then why he did not invade the west instead? He is not man enough?

Putin told me that he didn't want america next door, just like the USA didn't enjoy cuba's diplomatic ties to the sowjet union.

 

[Deleted member 194275]

Putin told me that he didn't want america next door, just like the USA didn't enjoy cuba's diplomatic ties to the sowjet union.

if he's enemy is the USA, then why he did not fought it? Is he coward?

I believe he is, he talk loud only against the weak.

 

[Creamu]

if he's enemy is the USA, then why he did not fought it? Is he coward?

I believe he is, he talk loud only against the weak.

This is not how war between two big military powers works these days.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

well with crippling sanctions on Russia, sure Putin will say they have little effect on Russia, look at the rubble back to what it is, but wait til later in the year when the sanctions really start biting.

The worst part of the sanctions has already occured. Western countries, esp. the US, stole Russian assets in the hundreds of billions USD. Reducing trade hits the Europe harder than Russia because the resources are located within Russia.
In order to damage Russia, the US is willing to plunge the world economy into even more trouble. Hyper inflation incoming.

@lokomelo: For the same reason the US attacked smaller countries like Vietnam/Laos and Korea instead of China. The only difference, Russia does it in their backyard while the US does it all over the world.

 

[Creamu]

The worst part of the sanctions has already occured. Western countries, esp. the US, stole Russian assets in the hundreds of billions USD.

Yes, and they have payed with the loss of trust on the global stage.

Reducing trade hits the Europe harder than Russia because the resources are located within Russia.

Yes, especially germany.

In order to damage Russia, the US is willing to plunge the world economy into even more trouble. Hyper inflation incoming.

Yes, it was bound to happen anyway. At least they can point their fingers at something/one.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

So many armchair experts here! I'm glad I missed the dumpster fire of the previous page

 

[Xzi]

Russia has already wiped out 15 years of economic gains in a few months. And for what? So Putin can feel strong one last time before cancer kills his degenerate ass? Tragic all around, not just for Ukraine but also for the people of Russia who opposed this invasion and will suffer the consequences of his actions for decades to come anyway.

 

[Creamu]

Russia has already wiped out 15 years of economic gains in a few months. And for what? So Putin can feel strong one last time before cancer kills his degenerate ass? Tragic all around, not just for Ukraine but also for the people of Russia who opposed this invasion and will suffer the consequences of his actions for decades to come anyway.

And first and foremost the ukrainians. These are the brothers and sisters of the russian. What could have possibly caused this conflict... oh yeah, evil Putler. This happens when culture regresses to crude comicbook movies.

 

[Xzi]

And first and foremost the ukrainians. These are the brothers and sisters of the russian. What could have possibly caused this conflict... oh yeah, evil Putler. This happens when culture regresses to crude comicbook movies.

Megalomaniacal dictators existed long before comic book movies or modern culture, believe it or not. So whatever point you're trying to make here is moot. Bad people do exist, and really bad shit does happen when you give them power.

 

[Creamu]

Megalomaniacal dictators existed long before comic book movies or modern culture, believe it or not. So whatever point you're trying to make here is moot. Bad people do exist, and really bad shit does happen when you give them power.

The comicbook movie conception of histroy however is a new phenomenon.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

And first and foremost the ukrainians. These are the brothers and sisters of the russian. What could have possibly caused this conflict... oh yeah, evil Putler. This happens when culture regresses to crude comicbook movies.

We don't have time here for apologists of fascism, despite the amount of proto-fascist incels that infest these forums like fungus.

 

[Creamu]

We don't have time here for apologists of fascism, despite the amount of proto-fascist incels that infest these forums like fungus.

Maybe get more serious with your intellectual endeavours and things like this would not happen.

 

[Xzi]

The comicbook movie conception of histroy however is a new phenomenon.

People all interpret history in different ways, but the history being written before our eyes is clear as day. Putin had zero reason or justification to invade Ukraine. That doesn't make him a supervillian, it just makes him an objectively evil piece of shit.

 

[Creamu]

People all interpret history in different ways, but the history being written before our eyes is clear as day. Putin had zero reason or justification to invade Ukraine.

And yet he is killing his brothers and sisters, I mean come on!

That doesn't make him a supervillian, it just makes him an objectively evil piece of shit.

This is a problem we are facing on a civilisational level. How simple minded can a populus become before the structural fruits of a fargone civilisation is finally going to collapse.

This is not meant to be personal, just a general observation.

 

[Xzi]

And yet he is killing his brothers and sisters, I mean come on!

Why you gotta sound sarcastic?

This is a problem we are facing on a civilisational level. How simple minded can a populus become before the structural fruits of a fargone civilisation is finally going to collapse.

This is not meant to be personal, just a general observation.

If you're implying that the US might some day soon have to deal with its own tyrannical dictator who decides to invade a country unilaterally, I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you. It won't be the people who go to superhero movies bowing down to him, though.

 

[Creamu]

Why you gotta sound sarcastic?

Sorry if it made that impression. Do you seriously believe that Putin is killing his brothers and sisters without a reason?

If you're implying that the US might some day soon have to deal with its own tyrannical dictator who decides to invade a country unilaterally, I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you. It won't be the people who go to superhero movies bowing down to him, though.

US is an anarcho tryanncial system, and the superhero movie crowd is compliant.

 

[Xzi]

Do you seriously believe that Putin is killing his brothers and sisters without a reason?

His reason is he wants Ukraine's resources. That's not an acceptable or good reason, though. It's just imperialism and/or fascism.

US is an anarcho tryanncial system, and the superhero movie crowd is compliant.

There's nothing "anarcho" about the US, we're just a capitalist democracy in decline, well on its way to becoming an oligarchy. Nobody living here has a choice when it comes to participating in that, so I say let people have whatever escapism they want or can find some comfort in.