The situation in Ukraine...

[Deleted member 194275]

Russia following instructions to cause starvation worldwide:

Brazil is out of Fertilizers, it is not Russian propaganda.

Sanctions is a measure applied by USA half dozen of times against their enemies, never worked before but somehow people believe that magically will work now. Not that I can think of alternatives, but it is not my call isn't it?

The human side of sanctions on other hand are nasty. Russian, Cubans, Iranians, etc, even the ones that do not like their respective governments do suffer a lot. Civilians, people that are far from the army or the politics are the ones who suffer most. Presidents, Ministers and so on don't give a shit, their luxuries will keep.

For Europeans and Americans the effort to defeat Russia is just few cents more on each liter on fuel pump. For the third world is more people dying from starvation.

Nothing of that is Russian propaganda, your video is the only propaganda. Russia need to be stopped, the killings need to be stopped and spreading the word that sanctions are a holy peace medicine will not help for that.

 

[Coto]

Brazil is out of Fertilizers, it is not Russian propaganda.

Sanctions is a measure applied by USA half dozen of times against their enemies, never worked before but somehow people believe that magically will work now. Not that I can think of alternatives, but it is not my call isn't it?

The human side of sanctions on other hand are nasty. Russian, Cubans, Iranians, etc, even the ones that do not like their respective governments do suffer a lot. Civilians, people that are far from the army or the politics are the ones who suffer most. Presidents, Ministers and so on don't give a shit, their luxuries will keep.

For Europeans and Americans the effort to defeat Russia is just few cents more on each liter on fuel pump. For the third world is more people dying from starvation.

Nothing of that is Russian propaganda, your video is the only propaganda. Russia need to be stopped, the killings need to be stopped and spreading the word that sanctions are a holy peace medicine will not help for that.

You are the socialist brazilian looking into Socialism. You know propaganda much better than me, I only tell the truth.
Holodomor.... something?

Source 1

The deputy mayor of Mariupol, Sergiy Orlov, describes people sheltering in basements trying to survive without food, medicine or a power supply, and drinking melted snow because the water has been cut off. In Chernihiv, March 16, a line of 10 civilians queuing for bread outside a grocery shop were killed by Russian troops. Ukrainian intelligence reports indiscriminate shelling and targeting of agricultural machinery, fields and grain stores; and civilians are being blocked from leaving besieged towns and cities or killed whilst fleeing. This is a playbook familiar to any monitoring similar starvation crimes in Syria, Yemen, Tigray or South Sudan.

A few very elderly Ukrainians will remember the forced starvation of the Holodomor of 1932-33, when a combination of brutally enforced collectivization and punitive confiscation of food killed about three million Ukrainians through the resulting famine. It was the occasion for Stalin’s infamous remark ‘if only one man dies of hunger, that is a tragedy; if millions die, that’s only statistics.’ He was wrong: every Ukrainian knows the story, deeply carved into their collective memory. After Ukrainian independence, monuments to the victims of famine were constructed in Kiev and Kharkhiv.

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Source 2

Russia accused of exploiting fears of global starvation​

RUSSIA was yesterday accused of "blackmail" after offering to free up food supplies from Ukraine in exchange for the lifting of sanctions.​

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Holodomor event

The Holodomor , also known as the Terror-Famine or the Great Famine, was a famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians. The Holodomor famine was part of the wider Soviet famine of 1932–1933 which affected the major grain-producing areas of the country.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Russia knows that famines in the developing world will lead to an influx of refugees to Germany etc, not Russia. It is fighting dirty without declaring war.

 

[crueI]

Please stop getting your news from legacy publications and TV networks. It's doing a disservice to all of humanity.
Welcome to the information war.

 

[Creamu]

The war is over. 50 billion dollars for extending the war well spent. :s

 

[Tomato123]

The war is over. 50 billion dollars for extending the war well spent. :s

Any source? As far as I can see, it's still going.

 

[Creamu]

Any source? As far as I can see, it's still going.

https://english.almayadeen.net/news...p-orders-battalion-to-stop-fighting-amid-mass
We can discuss the details, but this means it is over. There is no recovering from that.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Well here we are 10 days after the article and still fighting

 

[Tomato123]

https://english.almayadeen.net/news...p-orders-battalion-to-stop-fighting-amid-mass
We can discuss the details, but this means it is over. There is no recovering from that.

Allowing a single city to fall into Russia's control means the war is over... okaaaaaay...

Most civilians had been evacuated/killed already in the city which is why they decided to stop defending that specific city, not all of their territory. The war is still going and a single city is likely not going to be the deciding factor in when it ends.

 

[Creamu]

Allowing a single city to fall into Russia's control means the war is over... okaaaaaay...

Most civilians had been evacuated/killed already in the city which is why they decided to stop defending that specific city, not all of their territory. The war is still going and a single city is likely not going to be the deciding factor in when it ends.

I see your point, and it's valid. My point is, without the Azov battalion this game of chess is over (in realtiy it is a horrible war of course...) practically speaking.

 

[KuntilanakMerah]

See told you what, Russia is strong and US are too afraid to confront directly with Russia

US just like a tyrone bullying lil kids, he's afraid losing when facing stronger opponents just like in Vietnam wars

 

[KuntilanakMerah]

mark my words soon us dollars is meaningless they just like a common papers without value, i'm investing Rubble after they embargo Russia, now i get the profits

 

[Dark_Ansem]

See told you what, Russia is strong and US are too afraid to confront directly with Russia

US just like a tyrone bullying lil kids, he's afraid losing when facing stronger opponents just like in Vietnam wars

mark my words soon us dollars is meaningless they just like a common papers without value, i'm investing Rubble after they embargo Russia, now i get the profits

Delusional.

 

[Creamu]

See told you what, Russia is strong and US are too afraid to confront directly with Russia

USA would be extremely foolish to confront russia directly. There is always the economic powerhouse china on the chessboard.

 

[JoeBloggs777]

USA would be extremely foolish to confront russia directly. There is always the economic powerhouse china on the chessboard.

nearly as as this

 

[Creamu]

nearly as as this

Sorry I can't watch a video when the thumbnail is so hideous...

 

[JoeBloggs777]

Sorry I can't watch a video when the thumbnail is so hideous...

I know what you mean, there was rumour's that Dobby was based on Pootin

yes he's been foolish, NATO will expand with Sweden and Finland, mass exodus of western companies shutting down in Russia, increasing unemployment. The West will massively reduce the amount of oil and gas they buy from Russia, thousands of dead Russian, Ukrainians and civilians and the lies he told to the Russian people . If this is not foolish I don't know what is

 

[Creamu]

there was rumour's that Dobby

What is that?

yes he's been foolish, NATO will expand with Sweden and Finland, mass exodus of western companies shutting down in Russia, increasing unemployment. The West will massively reduce the amount of oil and gas they buy from Russia, thousands of dead Russian, Ukrainians and civilians and the lies he told to the Russian people . If this is not foolish I don't know what is

If you think the american economy will muster the situation better than russia, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[JoeBloggs777]

What is that?

If you think the american economy will muster the situation better than russia, I don't know what to tell you.

well with crippling sanctions on Russia, sure Putin will say they have little effect on Russia, look at the rubble back to what it is, but wait til later in the year when the sanctions really start biting.

 

[Creamu]

Anyway, I hope the war will end soon. So many ukrainian men have died, what has it achieved?