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But you do according to your logic. (which I am not disputing, just be consistent, man)
I'm telling you right now I do not like my tax dollars going to the Iraq war so I do not support it.

It's the government that is making this choice not me. Blame them. But I do support the government using my hard earned dollars to support Ukraine's fight.
 
I'm telling you right now I do not like my tax dollars going to the Iraq war so I do not support it.

It's the government that is making this choice not me. Blame them. But I do support the government using my hard earned dollars to support Ukraine's fight.
Stop playing semantics and use some logic.
You were mad somebody told you that you were doing nothing.
So you said "I pay my taxes" (therefore you support Ukraine indirectly through your government)
IF THAT IS TRUE, then you also support wars your government starts.
But suddenly use switch to the other meaning of "support" by merely referring to the non-physical meaning.

Be a man and take back your first statement or accept the implications. Don´t play these games.
 
The Truth? What are you talking about lol. I'm not hurt because of that. I'm not hurt at all. I'm saying fuck you for saying I don't care about these issues when I actually talked about them.

I do my part by paying taxes and my tax dollars are going out to help Ukranian's. So fuck you for saying I don't do anything. I am doing something idiot.
No you ain't.

1) Gets mad at you not doing anything.
2) Also gets mad at you for doing something.
Who said I was mad? I ain't mad, only annoyed at the clueless Ukraine shills who keep telling everyone how great they are by getting duped into giving money and saying Putin should be assassinated, as if they'd ever have the balls to do it themselves.
 
Oh your going somewhere child. Infact your going to become the entire circus, and I have the pop corn with everyone else.
Sounds like you have a sad and shallow life if you're going to be waiting for one random guy on the internet to supposedly fail.
 
Sounds like you have a sad and shallow life if you're going to be waiting for one random guy on the internet to supposedly fail.
Lol for someone crying bout this thread is boring and don’t have Ill feelings of Ukraine.. you sure sound like a paid troll😱
 
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The Russian “brain drain” is real

Not really talking bout NFKRZ, but the Thousands upon thousands of Young Russians leaving Russia in mass ..to the point Georgia, Uzbekistan, kazakhstan has seen a ridiculous uptick in legal and illegal Russian escaping the iron curtain


Youre seeing Russia turn in to North Korea in real time
 
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The Russian “brain drain” is real

Not really talking bout NFKRZ, but the Thousands upon thousands of Young Russians leaving Russia in mass ..to the point Georgia, Uzbekistan, kazakhstan has seen a ridiculous uptick in legal and illegal Russian escaping the iron curtain


Youre seeing Russia turn in to North Korea in real time
In all fairness, Russia was always messed up. When the Iron Curtain fell and the U.S.S.R crumbled, all Soviet states and satellites experienced a very brief moment of freedom and prosperity. Some of those states later leaned either into the future, like the Czech Republic, Slovakia (formerly Czechoslovakia), Poland etc., or into the past, like Russia or Belarus. After Yeltsin rapidly introduced a capitalist economy, it didn’t come without some sacrifices - economic freedom has a price. Large swathes of the population wanted quick solutions - that’s where Putin’s never-ending reign comes into play. I think the key failing in those states was picking political figures deeply entrenched in the previous system, people who were aiming at consolidating power rather than pushing for actual reform. I can’t help but wonder how Russia would’ve looked like if somebody else won the 2000 election. Putin was a bad egg from the start, but Russians were enamoured by the idea of a powerful state, in part because they missed the one that crumbled.
 
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Russians were enamoured by the idea of a powerful state, in part because they missed the one that crumbled.
Although people were not considering Russia as a modern powerhouse. The sanctions and tighting control over civil pop. has destroyed any chance for real growth.


well I think its more of two different camps.
1.) you have the Old Soviet head ( Putin, Shoigu etc) There are people who Missing the Power, not of USSR itself but the Internal power they felt that no-one questioned or spoke up.
2.)30-40year olds, who kept hearing ( or vaguely remember) stories about the Glory of USSR, they were too young to understand why it failed and the hardship that led to it.

those two Group have been pushing a Fantasy of the Rise of USSR 2.0. but failed to understand the downsides ( brain drain, sactions . I think this will be the end of the Russia Fed. itself.
 
The Russian “brain drain” is real

Not really talking bout NFKRZ, but the Thousands upon thousands of Young Russians leaving Russia in mass ..to the point Georgia, Uzbekistan, kazakhstan has seen a ridiculous uptick in legal and illegal Russian escaping the iron curtain


Youre seeing Russia turn in to North Korea in real time

It's so wrong to teach kids from kindergarden to hate
those who bare the responsibility are surely going to hell
 
Although people were not considering Russia as a modern powerhouse. The sanctions and tighting control over civil pop. has destroyed any chance for real growth.

well I think its more of two different camps.
1.) you have the Old Soviet head ( Putin, Shoigu etc) There are people who Missing the Power, not of USSR itself but the Internal power they felt that no-one questioned or spoke up.
2.)30-40year olds, who kept hearing ( or vaguely remember) stories about the Glory of USSR, they were too young to understand why it failed and the hardship that led to it.

those two Group have been pushing a Fantasy of the Rise of USSR 2.0. but failed to understand the downsides ( brain drain, sactions . I think this will be the end of the Russia Fed. itself.
This is a pendulum swing. You need to fall down before you can get back up. Russia “got up” from the collapse of the U.S.S.R, but only partially. The system has changed, but not the people. It’s not just 20-40 year olds who miss the “good old days”, there’s plenty of old folks who feel displaced because the connections they used to have and the party membership they used to take advantage of no longer gave them benefits. Plenty of people who were displaced out of industries that used to be artificially propped up, heavy industry in particular. People who used to be wealthy and respectable got downgraded to the working class, and vice versa - people who used to be scorned for their “useless degrees” were elevated to higher levels of society. People who seized the opportunity to engage in private ventures in the 90’ties quickly raised to prominence, in a true “from rags to riches” fashion, and within only two, three decades. It was a time of turmoil in all post-Soviet states - I should know, I witnessed it. The business environment from the time when I was a child was very different than what it is now, and the same changes likely took place in Russia. The difference is that Poles leaned into them whereas Russians feared change - they wanted a powerful state of Russia and that’s what they got. The problem is that a state like that wears boots, ones that are always on the lookout for a neck to step on.
 


ok... I Guess this is a diff issue, within the Russian Community.
Another Russian speaking about the Brain Drain live as I post this. (did not plan this)

Nice reminder that IF you meet new Russians IRL, to greet them nicely as they probably left Russia for a reason
 
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Because we don't have programs or techniques to edit and manipulate pictures nowadays, even satellite images, right?

I'm not for Russia nor Ukraine at this point.
You seem to be pretty pro Russia from your posts.

So you said "I pay my taxes" (therefore you support Ukraine indirectly through your government)
IF THAT IS TRUE, then you also support wars your government starts.
No that is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician's_syllogism

It's also entirely possible for right minded people to support Ukraine, even though there are likely some bad people in Ukraine. Supporting Ukraine doesn't mean that you agree with every thing that anyone from Ukraine has ever done.

That is black and white thinking.

Biden insist on disarming USA citizens.....
Only criminals.
 
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I can’t help but wonder how Russia would’ve looked like if somebody else won the 2000 election. Putin was a bad egg from the start, but Russians were enamoured by the idea of a powerful state, in part because they missed the one that crumbled.
Was there ever any chance of that actually happening, though? Putin was literally willing to kill to manipulate people into voting for him. I imagine he wasn't the only morally bankrupt holdover that had been trained in covert ops by the KGB. The obvious first step for Russia should've been barring everybody with any involvement in the Soviet Union from running for office ever again.
 
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Was there ever any chance of that actually happening, though? Putin was literally willing to kill to manipulate people into voting for him. I imagine he wasn't the only morally bankrupt holdover that had been trained in covert ops by the KGB. The obvious first step for Russia should've been barring everybody with any involvement in the Soviet Union from running for office ever again.
Certainly with Putin around, there was no way anyone else was going to win (or survive winning).

If the CIA had dealt with Putin, then I wonder how many others they would have had to deal with before someone better became viable.
 
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Only criminals.
You know socialists don't really discern between citizens and criminals right?

More than that, China Joe Biden handed over $85,000,000,000 worth of American military hardware to the Taliban. Reports indicate that portions of this hardware are already being sold off to Iran and other enemies of the United States.

Biden surrendered over 100 combat helicopters, over 200 fixed wing aircraft including 3 C-130’s, almost 10,000 grenade launchers, and 3,012 Humvees.

But Biden also handed over a staggering number of personal weapons to the Taliban, too. That list includes 64,363 belt-fed machine guns, 126,295 handguns, 12,692 shotguns, and 358,530 M4 carbines.
You see, the UN Small Arms Treaty isn’t just being pushed by Joe Biden and our political enemies here in America.

According to early reports coming out of the UN’s ‘work group’ that met to discuss the treaty in Europe last week, some of the 83 nations that assembled to work on the Arms Treaty included Afghanistan, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Cameroon, and Lebanon.

But make no mistake, the real leader behind the UN Small Arms Treaty — the country that is pulling the strings across the globe and maybe inside of our own White House — is China.
 
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