Covid-19 vaccine

[djpannda]

Luckily, that's not how mutations work. I can't even imagine a case where a mutation would cause a shift in specificity to target age. Maybe ask Fauci if he has some way to do it through gain of function splicing.

lol yea its not going to target kids 5-15 ... its going to mutate to have a high mortality rate for..

...DRUMROLL...


ALL HUMANS.
Plus what does Fauci have to do with the Mutation of allowing a Virus (that has already mutated several times) to spread unchecked?

 

[appleburger]

I can't believe I have to type this out for people, but the whole reason we vaccinate children is to prevent spread.
It's not to prevent death in children.
Children already receive vaccines to be allowed in school for diseases they will likely survive.

None of this is new. We just have a new virus to contend with.

The entire reason COVID is dangerous is because it spreads so easily, so obviously a vaccine is a reasonable counter-measure, like it has been for decades.

And yes, that includes children.

If you think a low death rate in children rules out why they should be vaccinated, then you are clearly demonstrating how ignorant you are as to why so much effort is put into vaccinating - especially in a pandemic.

 

[Dakitten]

Luckily, that's not how mutations work. I can't even imagine a case where a mutation would cause a shift in specificity to target age. Maybe ask Fauci if he has some way to do it through gain of function splicing.

Y'know, call me a racist, but everything this guy says sounds like @!#?@! to me. Bloody Qberts...

Seriously though, your input hasn't disrupted a single point, and yet you still yammer on like an outright fool. As a parent with kids in school, I can tell you I was mortified when, first week of in-person learning resuming in my small city, all but one school reported covid cases in either teachers or affiliated adults. My eldest son is still in at-home learning due to the pandemic (and he is eagerly awaiting his shot so he can go back!), and my sister, a teacher, dreads every day that one of her students might accidentally kill her off due to her preexisting health conditions making her particularly vulnerable. The vaccine being out there for kids will likely save thousands upon thousands of lives by limiting the spread, and as Lacius pointed out earlier, probably hundreds if not thousands of children worldwide too. If you have, say, some evidence the vaccine is going to maim or murder them at some greater rate, please feel free to share that, otherwise... how did you phrase it? No womb, no opinion?

 

[Lacius]

That's 700 out of 756,961 total so you've just proved my point.

My point, since you apparently weren't reading, was that a child is significantly more likely to die from COVID-19 than from the vaccine.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

That wasn't me that said anything about sacrificing babies, grandpa..

Ok, you got me on that one. Now what about the rest? And grandpa? Is that supposed to be in insult? For the record, I am actually an INCREDIBLY proud grandpa. Sit tf down, hmmmmm, what's a good grandpa line? Oh... yeah. Sit tf down, sonny boy, before you hurt yourself and/or others.

 

[WG481]

How on earth is this conversation still going?

 

[x65943]

lol yea its not going to target kids 5-15 ... its going to mutate to have a high mortality rate for..

...DRUMROLL...


ALL HUMANS.
Plus what does Fauci have to do with the Mutation of allowing a Virus (that has already mutated several times) to spread unchecked?

Although it's not clear the virus would mutate to become more deadly. Ultimately it spreads best when the symptoms are mild and viral load is high. Best case scenario from the virus's perspective would be to reach a middle ground.

 

[NyaakoXD]

How on earth is this conversation still going?

Simple, some people just don't want to believe in actual science, facts, and data all because they don't want to take a couple of shots that can help themselves and people around them.

It'll continue to keep going as long as these folks continue to be stubborn and not priortize their own wellbeing along with others.

 

[djpannda]

Although it's not clear the virus would mutate to become more deadly. Ultimately it spreads best when the symptoms are mild and viral load is high. Best case scenario from the virus's perspective would be to reach a middle ground.

fine.... "possibly Mutate" ...

 

[AsPika2219]

Finally!!! I injected 3rd dos vaccine! And now I have 2 dos Sinovac + 1 dos Pfizer!
Meanwhile... beware of newest Omicron variant!

 

[subcon959]

Some good news, a new cocktail of monoclonal antibodies called Evusheld has been given EUA.

https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/fda-eua-astrazeneca-evusheld/

 

[WG481]

Some good news, a new cocktail of monoclonal antibodies called Evusheld has been given EUA.

https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/fda-eua-astrazeneca-evusheld/

Ohhh yeahhhh

 

[subcon959]

Another interesting video from the good doctor, this time about how the viral spike protein works.

 

[subcon959]

So Merck's new $700 anti-viral turns out to be 30% effective and yet somehow still manages to get an FDA EUA recommendation (13-10 vote).

I wonder if it's somehow related to the $2.2 billion government contract that would only proceed if it got the EUA

 

[The Catboy]

So Merck's new $700 anti-viral turns out to be 30% effective and yet somehow still manages to get an FDA EUA recommendation (13-10 vote).

I wonder if it's somehow related to the $2.2 billion government contract that would only proceed if it got the EUA

Oral medication is always less effective and has less yield than injections. That being said, this pill seems to be designed for those who can’t get shots, which is often the intended use for pills of these nature. This is also new and I wouldn’t be shocked if they end up finding better methods, like dissolving the pill under your tongue, patches, or methods of getting better yield rates.

 

[subcon959]

Oral medication is always less effective and has less yield than injections. That being said, this pill seems to be designed for those who can’t get shots, which is often the intended use for pills of these nature. This is also new and I wouldn’t be shocked if they end up finding better methods, like dissolving the pill under your tongue, patches, or methods of getting better yield rates.

Except that their initial claims were much higher, I remember even I commented here somewhere that it was very promising as their studies were showing something approaching 90% efficacy at the time. I think the UK authorisation was even based off that study.. and now look where we are after the contracts have been made. Regardless of the medical aspects, this is shady stuff, and extremely reminiscent of the crap that Merck has pulled in the past. Some of those experts on the panel were concerned that the pill could actually do more harm than good.

Let's also not forget that this drug was developed with government funding (i.e tax payers) and costs around $17 to make. Yet somehow its totally okay for them to sell it back to the public at $700. Even if it had turned out to be effective that part is still shady as hell.

 

[The Catboy]

Except that their initial claims were much higher, I remember even I commented here somewhere that it was very promising as their studies were showing something approaching 90% efficacy at the time. I think the UK authorisation was even based off that study.. and now look where we are after the contracts have been made. Regardless of the medical aspects, this is shady stuff, and extremely reminiscent of the crap that Merck has pulled in the past. Some of those experts on the panel were concerned that the pill could actually do more harm than good.

Let's also not forget that this drug was developed with government funding (i.e tax payers) and costs around $17 to make. Yet somehow its totally okay for them to sell it back to the public at $700. Even if it had turned out to be effective that part is still shady as hell.

I am not saying nothing shady could be going on, just point out the flaws with pills and possible means of getting better yields.
It honestly would be a higher yield if pills weren’t thrashed by the liver. Which is actually why dissolving pills under your tongue gets a slightly higher yield. This is more about me being annoyed with with the inefficiency of pills.

 

[Alexander1970]

Oral Medication has only one good Reason:

To treat infected Persons BEFORE they must have to go to the Hospital and become "Intensive" Patients....

Like they should have done before....then we would not have this Topic no longer about "Intensive Care Troubles"...

EDIT:
No better not...

 

[subcon959]

I am not saying nothing shady could be going on, just point out the flaws with pills and possible means of getting better yields.
It honestly would be a higher yield if pills weren’t thrashed by the liver. Which is actually why dissolving pills under your tongue gets a slightly higher yield. This is more about me being annoyed with with the inefficiency of pills.

I feel the same way, I really had high hopes for it even though I was sceptical when it was announced. That's just the nature of anti-virals unfortunately.

 

[SG854]

Except that their initial claims were much higher, I remember even I commented here somewhere that it was very promising as their studies were showing something approaching 90% efficacy at the time. I think the UK authorisation was even based off that study.. and now look where we are after the contracts have been made. Regardless of the medical aspects, this is shady stuff, and extremely reminiscent of the crap that Merck has pulled in the past. Some of those experts on the panel were concerned that the pill could actually do more harm than good.

Let's also not forget that this drug was developed with government funding (i.e tax payers) and costs around $17 to make. Yet somehow its totally okay for them to sell it back to the public at $700. Even if it had turned out to be effective that part is still shady as hell.

Those are U.S. prices. Looks like U.S. industries got involved