Covid-19 vaccine

[SG854]

Right here bud

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/def...accination-after-your-astrazeneca-vaccine.pdf

Rare side effects that have been reported after COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca are:
- A very rare and unusual clotting condition:
--People with this condition get very unwell and need to go to hospital. This condition can lead to long-term disability, and even death.

Although it is pretty effective. If the vaccine kills you, you definitely won't get covid.

It is rare tbf. Water can kill you too but we do not advice people not to drink it.

 

[Lacius]

It is rare tbf. Water can kill you too but we do not advice people not to drink it.

5,228 Americans died from choking in 2019. That doesn't mean food, generally, isn't safe or recommended.

 

[SG854]

5,228 Americans died from choking in 2019. That doesn't mean food, generally, isn't safe or recommended.

With those odds tabazer will see that as too dangerous and will start feeding through a IV.

 

[Lacius]

With those odds tabazer will see that as too dangerous and will start feeding through a IV.

Some fun math below

• 5,228 choking deaths in 2019
• Population of USA in 2019 was 328.2 million
• Assume each American eats three meals a day, 365 days a year (359,379,000,000 meals in 2019)
• 5,228 deaths out of 359,379,000,000 meals = about 1 in 69 million
• 331 million COVID-19 vaccines in the USA
• Let's assume three people in the USA died as a direct consequence of the vaccine
• 3 deaths out of 331 million vaccines = about 1 in 110 million

 

[subcon959]

Why are you assuming 3 deaths from the vaccine? That seems very arbitrary.

 

[mightymuffy]

Why are you assuming 3 deaths from the vaccine? That seems very arbitrary.

Let's not even get into his 1 in 100 covid death rate, which is, to be as nice as possible, broad at the very least
But obviously he slaved away on notepad for some time on that post further up, so let's not be too cruel....

 

[Ratatattat]

I find it beyond the point of stupidity ever time I hear the argument " I'm not getting the vaccination because we don't know all the future side effects, etc". Tell me this then "What are the future side effects of Covid-19". You don't know all of them either. Your argument holds NO credibility once you realize you know no more about COVID-19 then you do the vaccinations for such.

 

[Lacius]

Why are you assuming 3 deaths from the vaccine? That seems very arbitrary.

I agree with you that it's arbitrary. I got that number from the CDC report that, out of 88 deaths that occurred after the J&J vaccine, 85 likely had nothing to do with the vaccine, but three of them were from CVST, a potential (but exceedingly rare) side-effect from the J&J vaccine. I am not saying all three of them died from the J&J vaccine, but I'm acknowledging it as a possibility and using that as a high figure for the math.

Let's not even get into his 1 in 100 covid death rate, which is, to be as nice as possible, broad at the very least

If you look at positive tests and COVID-19 deaths, the odds of death are about 1 in 56 if you test positive for the disease. However, that doesn't include asymptomatic people and people who contract COVID-19 but never receive a test. When you include asymptomatic people and people who never receive a test, the number is closer to 1 in 100 dying from the disease.

 

[gene0915]

Lacius and Xzi, save us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111

https://www.jpost.com/health-scienc...-new-lambda-covid-variant-concerns-who-673103

God help us all if the Lambda Lambda Lambda variant pops up!!!!!!11111111

Will somebody please page Dr. Bill Gates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

 

[Lacius]

Lacius and Xzi, save us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111

https://www.jpost.com/health-scienc...-new-lambda-covid-variant-concerns-who-673103

God help us all if the Lambda Lambda Lambda variant pops up!!!!!!11111111

Will somebody please page Dr. Bill Gates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

The best way to combat new variants from popping up is by vaccinating as many people as possible.

 

[SG854]

That's how we eradicated chicken pox

 

[Lacius]

That's how we eradicated chicken pox

We effectively eradicated smallpox, not chickenpox. You're right that we did it through vaccination, however.

 

[SG854]

We effectively eradicated smallpox, not chickenpox. You're right that we did it through vaccination, however.

That's what I meant

 

[gene0915]

The best way to combat new variants from popping up is by vaccinating as many people as possible.

All I can say is thank God we have medical experts like you and Dr. Bill Gates leading the way!!!!!!11111111111 I'm totally OK with injecting people at gun point, like the Nazi's did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111 It's for the children!!!!

Hey, are you going to be at the Fascists Against Government meeting tonight? I'll save you a seat! I just got a new iPhone from Lebron James (he's soooooooooo woke.....except when it comes to China and slave labor camps making his Nike shoes) so we can watch Rachael Madcow tonight so she can tell us what to parrot next!!!!!!!!!!!11111111

 

[Lacius]

All I can say is thank God we have medical experts like you and Dr. Bill Gates leading the way!!!!!!11111111111

I am not a medical expert, and Bill Gates is not a medical expert. However, the medical experts overwhelmingly agree that the best way to combat new variants from popping up is by vaccinating as many people as possible, and they overwhelming agree that the vaccine is safe and effective. Anyone who hasn't been vaccinated yet should get vaccinated as soon as possible. Listen to the science, and listen to the scientists.

I'm totally OK with injecting people at gun point, like the Nazi's did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111 It's for the children!!!!

I don't think anybody in this thread suggested vaccinating people at gunpoint.

 

[SG854]

All I can say is thank God we have medical experts like you and Dr. Bill Gates leading the way!!!!!!11111111111 I'm totally OK with injecting people at gun point, like the Nazi's did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111 It's for the children!!!!

Hey, are you going to be at the Fascists Against Government meeting tonight? I'll save you a seat! I just got a new iPhone from Lebron James (he's soooooooooo woke.....except when it comes to China and slave labor camps making his Nike shoes) so we can watch Rachael Madcow tonight so she can tell us what to parrot next!!!!!!!!!!!11111111

Lacius is only repeating what medical experts say. So if you disagree with Lacius you are actually disagreeing with medical experts. Now do you have a medical degree? To disagree with medical experts.

 

[WiiCurious]

the odds of dying from COVID-19 are approximately 1 in 100.

WTF are you talking about?
I'm not a COVID conspiracy theorist or anti-vaxxer, but your number is stupidly wrong.
It's only true if you are over the age of 65.

If you are under the age of 35, your chance of dying from COVID is 1 in 25,000.
If every person in the USA under 35 caught COVID, we would expect to see 6,000 deaths in that age group.

0-34 is 1 in 25,000
35-44 is 17 in 25,000. (1 in 1,470)
45-54 is 57.5 in 25,000 (1 in 434)
55-64 is 187.5 in 25,000 (1 in 133)
65-74 is 625 in 25,000 (1 in 40)
75-84 is 2125 in 25,000 (1 in 11)
85+ is 7075 in 25,000 (1 in 3.5)


Total IFR is 1% (When adjust for the size of each of the age groups in the table below).
This doesn't tell the whole story. Old people skew mortality statistics. The data needs broken down by age group.

Here's the IFR table from wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic

0–34 0.004%
35–44 0.068%
45–54 0.23%
55–64 0.75%
65–74 2.5%
75–84 8.5%
85 + 28.3%

When you include asymptomatic people and people who never receive a test, the number is closer to 1 in 100 dying from the disease.

lol

 

[Lacius]

WTF are you talking about?
I'm not a COVID conspiracy theorist or anti-vaxxer, but your number is stupidly wrong.
It's only true if you are over the age of 65.

If you are under the age of 35, your chance of dying from COVID is 1 in 25,000.
If every person in the USA under 35 caught COVID, we would expect to see 6,000 deaths in that age group.

0-34 is 1 in 25,000
35-44 is 17 in 25,000. (1 in 1,470)
45-54 is 57.5 in 25,000 (1 in 434)
55-64 is 187.5 in 25,000 (1 in 133)
65-74 is 625 in 25,000 (1 in 40)
75-84 is 2125 in 25,000 (1 in 11)
85+ is 7075 in 25,000 (1 in 3.5)


Total IFR is 1% (When adjust for the size of each of the age groups in the table below).
This doesn't tell the whole story. Old people skew mortality statistics. The data needs broken down by age group.

Here's the IFR table from wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic

0–34 0.004%
35–44 0.068%
45–54 0.23%
55–64 0.75%
65–74 2.5%
75–84 8.5%
85 + 28.3%

I'm not sure why you're asking what I'm talking about, only to concede later that the total IFR is, indeed, approximately 1 in 100.

You are right that the mortality rate varies by age group, etc., but that doesn't change anything that I've said. The odds of of death by a vaccine are still many times less than the odds of dying by COVID-19, regardless of which age group you belong to.

 

[WiiCurious]

I'm not sure why you're asking what I'm talking about, only to concede later that the total IFR is, indeed, approximately 1 in 100.

You are right that the mortality rate varies by age group, etc., but that doesn't change anything that I've said. The odds of of death by a vaccine are still many times less than the odds of dying by COVID-19, regardless of which age group you belong to.

It's dishonest and anti-scientific to state that everybody has the same IFR.

"If you've contracted COVID-19, your odds of dying from COVID-19 are approximately 1 in 100."

You are nothing but a fear monger.

 

[Lacius]

It's dishonest and anti-scientific to state that everybody has the same IFR.

"If you've contracted COVID-19, your odds of dying from COVID-19 are approximately 1 in 100."

You are nothing but a fear monger.

1 in 100 are, approximately, the general odds of dying from COVID-19. It isn't fear mongering, and it definitely isn't anti-scientific. It's a fact.

If you want to nitpick the number and argue that it varies by age and other demographic information, great. You'd be correct. However, it doesn't change anything that I've said. Everybody who can get vaccinated should get vaccinated. It's in your best interest, and it's in the best interest of those around you, regardless of your age.

It is laughably ridiculous that you're calling anybody in this thread other than the anti-vaxxers "dishonest," "anti-scientific," and "fear mongering."