Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

[smf]

You act like Japan isn't allowed onto the internet

No, I acted like Japan attacked pearl harbor. Which they did.

I don't hold a grudge against Japan though.

There's no significant curvature to speak of

Your ruler is bent. Clearly the increase has been small, because Trump didn't order enough vaccine and Biden's order hasn't come through yet. If it had continued at the same rate as under Trump, they would be behind Chile.

If you aren't even going to accept basic facts then why do you bother?

 

[Foxi4]

Your ruler is bent. Clearly the increase has been small, because Trump didn't order enough vaccine and Biden's order hasn't come through yet. If it had continued at the same rate as under Trump, they would be behind Chile.

If you aren't even going to accept basic facts then why do you bother?

I'm not going to treat minor fluctuations that are still on-track of the trend as relevant data. Looking at the beginning of the roll-out in December I can see the exact same angle as I'm seeing now. Even if we assume that distribution briefly slowed down, it picked up again quickly - no thanks to Biden, mind, as his "changes" wouldn't have any effect on the distribution chain that quickly. The only statistically significant dips on the graph occurred under Biden, those are the "basic facts" I can see. If you're not willing to accept them, why bother indeed.

 

[smf]

The only statistically significant dips on the graph occurred under Biden, those are the "basic facts" I can see. If you're not willing to accept them, why bother indeed.

Well Trumps couldn't dip as he was so slow vaccinating people. If you drive at 10mph for an hour but don't stop, compared to 60mph but stop for ten minutes then you're still further ahead.

It's funny how hard you're trying to ignore that clear upward trend, to the amount you'd expect when looking at what Joe Biden planned.

 

[tabzer]

This has nothing to do with anything.
It's one giant ad hominem attack with a side of deliberate misinterpretation and some whataboutism drizzle on top.

So, are you saying what he saying isn't racist, or that it's okay because you appreciate the majority of what he says?

No, I acted like Japan attacked pearl harbor. Which they did.

I'm sure in their version of the movie they are the good guys,

 

[Plasmaster09]

So, are you saying what he saying isn't racist, or that it's okay because you appreciate the majority of what he says?

I'm saying that your statement didn't contribute anything to the discussion, and only served as a cheap and blatant attempt to discredit him by claiming bigotry instead of actually providing evidence for your side or against his.
Now either actually contribute to the discussion (i.e. make an actual point and then prove it) or just don't say anything.

 

[smf]

So, are you saying what he saying isn't racist, or that it's okay because you appreciate the majority of what he says?

I'm sure in their version of the movie they are the good guys,

This comment was about America, what is your point?
What exactly do you think I said was racist?

 

[Plasmaster09]

I'm sure in their version of the movie they are the good guys,

This comment was about America, do you enjoy making yourself look silly?

It's also correct, as we're basically incapable of admitting how incompetent and devoid of heroism we usually are in major media.

 

[tabzer]

I'm saying that your statement didn't contribute anything to the discussion, and only served as a cheap and blatant attempt to discredit him by claiming bigotry instead of actually providing evidence for your side or against his.
Now either actually contribute to the discussion (i.e. make an actual point and then prove it) or just don't say anything.

Incorrect. I'm not discrediting him. Even a racist can have a good argument/contribution. Most people are racist. If I had a problem with something else that he said, I would address it. By addressing racism, I am contributing.

I'm sure in their version of the movie they are the good guys,

This comment was about America, what is your point?
What exactly do you think I said was racist?

"Their" = "Japanese". The insinuation is that Japanese has rewritten a movie plot to affirm moral authority in the context of war, despite the fact that you can watch and see the Japanese version yourself without making such an absurd (ie racist) notion. Also, there is further insinuation that everything about how America acts in regards to WW2 (or maybe war in general?) was morally correct, while opposition defaults morally inferior.

 

[Plasmaster09]

Incorrect. I'm not discrediting him. Even a racist can have a good argument/contribution. Most people are racist. If I had a problem with something else that he said, I would address it. By addressing racism, I am contributing.



"Their" = "Japanese". The insinuation is that Japanese has rewritten a movie plot to affirm moral authority in the context of war, despite the fact that you can watch and see the Japanese version yourself without making such an absurd (ie racist) notion. Also, there is further insinuation that everything about how America acts in regards to WW2 (or maybe war in general?) was morally correct, while opposition defaults morally inferior.

1) No, you really aren't contributing. Just accusing him of racism doesn't actually do anything, it just implies his viewpoint is invalid in some way without providing a drop of evidence or even making an actual argument thereof to prove it.
2) I'm fairly certain he knows what he said significantly more than you do, Tabzer. Check your ego.

 

[smf]

"Their" = "Japanese".

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Their = American.

They were late to that party as well because they didn't want to get involved, Japan forced their hand. I'm sure in their version of the movie they are the good guys, but it's not so clear to me.

If that is the point you want to argue over, then you truly are a troll and should be kicked off this site permanently.

The insinuation is that Japanese has rewritten a movie plot to affirm moral authority in the context of war,

Other than being about the wrong country, America has played fast and loose with the truth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-571_(film)
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1580479/the-biggest-factual-inaccuracies-in-7-classic-war-movies
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/11-most-truly-inaccurate-war-films.html

 

[urherenow]

My uncle Bob has worked for Construction and he states mask do not work and never wore them... he states his chronic lung disease has nothing to do with Asbestos

to be fair, the masks we are talking about are absolutely useless against asbestos. You seriously need to be using at least a half-face respirator with a 3 micron filter, to be protected from that stuff. As someone not only with a 7232 NEC, but also taught the school, I do know what I'm talking about here.

But back on track: I think the latest shows that a single mask is only 50~60% effective. It is now recommended to double-mask because that picks up protection to the tune of 90%. I can say (from the inside) that Xerox corporation is requiring all employees to wear 3-ply N95 masks at a minimum, to be allowed entry to a Xerox facility or a customer facility. Not only is there science behind these decisions, but this science is ongoing and evolving. For someone to say masks are totally ineffective is just plain dumb. They are, in fact, the reason for the severe downtick in influenza cases this season.

Not sure many people in this crowd have been vaccinated yet. I have. And I still don't leave the house without a mask. At this point, it's not even to protect me. It's to protect YOU. And, of course, my wife, who won't get a turn at the vaccine until April...

 

[Plasmaster09]

At this point, it's not even to protect me. It's to protect YOU. And, of course, my wife, who won't get a turn at the vaccine until April...

I mean
you're right
masks aren't meant to protect the wearer
they're meant to protect others FROM the wearer
the idea is that if everyone or at least almost everyone wears them, everyone or at least almost everyone will have significantly less chances of getting the virus

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Their = American.

I agree with you and I previously agreed with you but I'm honestly confused at how you managed to quote the wrong person for the statement

 

[IncredulousP]

masks aren't meant to protect the wearer
they're meant to protect others FROM the wearer

Masks are meant to mitigate both receiving and spreading of infectious particles, to the benefit of both the wearer and those around the wearer.

 

[Foxi4]

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Their = American.

They were late to that party as well because they didn't want to get involved, Japan forced their hand. I'm sure in their version of the movie they are the good guys, but it's not so clear to me.

If that is the point you want to argue over, then you truly are a troll and should be kicked off this site permanently.



Other than being about the wrong country, America has played fast and loose with the truth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-571_(film)
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1580479/the-biggest-factual-inaccuracies-in-7-classic-war-movies
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/11-most-truly-inaccurate-war-films.html

I think you might be responding to the wrong person.

 

[Plasmaster09]

I think you might be responding to the wrong person.

yeah I don't understand how he even managed to do that by accident
then again I also don't understand how tabzer managed to convince himself that he knows what smf is saying better than smf does so uh
shrug

 

[smf]

yeah I don't understand how he even managed to do that by accident

Hmm, not sure. If tabzer changes into Foxi4 again then maybe it's a sign of Q

 

[Foxi4]

Hmm, not sure. If tabzer changes into Foxi4 again then maybe it's a sign of Q

Trust the plan.

 

[smf]

Masks are meant to mitigate both receiving and spreading of infectious particles, to the benefit of both the wearer and those around the wearer.

To a degree. You wearing a mask around people not wearing a mask will have much less of an effect than if everyone is wearing a mask.

If someone not wearing a mask is leaving covid hanging in the air and you walk through it, then it's on you and you take it home & transfer it via touch. The mask doesn't help much at this point.

It's like having a threesome and using the same condom with multiple partners, it will stop them catching something from you but your partners will still be at risk.

 

[Hanafuda]

Masks are meant to mitigate both receiving and spreading of infectious particles, to the benefit of both the wearer and those around the wearer.

Too much isolation from antigens and the 'herd' immune response will suffer though. I'm hoping we haven't done this for so long that once we stop wearing the masks around each other in public, people will respond poorly to common colds, minor flu strains that wouldn't have caused a problem before.

Anyway, Texas just rescinded all Covid-19 related restrictions, so I guess there's finally light at the end of the tunnel whether anybody likes it / wants it or not.

 

[smf]

Too much isolation from antigens and the 'herd' immune response will suffer though.

Not enough and the hospitals can't deal with the fallout.

Do you fit brakes and seat belts to cars, or do you just let people be lucky?