Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[omgcat]

Read the thread. Then respond. I linked it.

or you could just clearly type out your argument like a normal person?

that thread is literally a poll asking if people will or won't take the vaccine. what possible argument could you be making other than "don't take the vaccine cause it causes problems"?

 

[tabzer]

It's not reasonable for me to type out the context, the objection, and the argument/outcome when I just showed you where it is.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Look at what I found!

 

[Deleted User]

You are talking about statistical observations, not scientific proof

wait... How? You do realize that enough statistical observations IS scientific proof. Saying that isn't is kinda insane.
We already know that elderly is at risk. Given that their immune systems, through statistical observation is weaker. The black community is disproportional effected due to wealth distribution being generally unequal. The amount of money you have access to can effect a lot of your heath, since it limits purchasing options. This would also mean that they are disproportionately going to have health issues, which covid will happily exploit.

 

[Lacius]

That's not true about people.



It appears as a false platitude.

How is this post any better than "nuh uh"?

 

[Deleted User]

A lot of evidence

bruh...
I literately debunked that site... only a few pages ago...
Just because the boy cries wolf, and a court case is filed, or someone says it happen
doesn't mean it did happen
you need to prove that it did.
again, reminder, the courts are stacked in Trumps favor if they were to be partisan. And even they dismissed his cases. Trump has appointed over 300 judges on lower courts (than the supreme court)
59 of those cases were thrown out. with 1 actually listened to, but that wasn't trying to prove widespread voter fraud in that one specific case.

 

[Lacius]

Look at what I found!
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Next time, I suggest you look at actual scientific studies, not memes. I can't tell if you're being stupid or if you're being deceptive. When you go looking for a particular conclusion rather than the truth, you're being dishonest.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947e2.htm

 

[Deleted User]

I see injustice in America being widespread

What specific injustices are you referring to? Outside of your claims that widespread voter fraud happened, which as plenty said, isn't true.

 

[Lacius]

bruh...
I literately debunked that site... only a few pages ago...
Just because the boy cries wolf, and a court case is filed, or someone says it happen
doesn't mean it did happen
you need to prove that it did.
again, reminder, the courts are stacked in Trumps favor if they were to be partisan. And even they dismissed his cases. Trump has appointed over 300 judges on lower courts (than the supreme court)
59 of those cases were thrown out. with 1 actually listened to, but that wasn't trying to prove widespread voter fraud in that one specific case.

Are you surprised @tabzer posted debunked nonsense?

 

[Deleted User]

Look at what I found!
View attachment 239063

Do I really want to respond to a image that promoting false information
sigh
Alright.
So the reason that doesn't work is that United States has been under testing for a long while. Regardless of their number of reported cases of people who have covid. due to under testing it actually would be high.
So consider that there is many people who got covid, and don't know about it. Mask mandate is set down. For those two weeks, the number would become inflated due to not having enough testing. Making it look like masks don't work.



also by the time mask mandates where point down (and depending on enforcement), there was way more infectious people as well due to being later in the pandemic, which would also proceed to boost the amount of unrepresented cases of covid

 

[djpannda]

And it begins
Dominion Voting Systems Employee Sues Trump Campaign And Allies For Defamation
You see boys and MAGA, if you say enough lies without proof you will get sued and lose

 

[Lacius]

And it begins...
Trump announces wave of pardons, including Papadopoulos and former lawmakers Hunter and Collins
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/trump-pardons/index.html

 

[djpannda]

And it begins...
Trump announces wave of pardons, including Papadopoulos and former lawmakers Hunter and Collins
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/trump-pardons/index.html

Lol “and it begins..” should be a a new series for the next 29 days

 

[realtimesave]

I guess things like cheating in elections, voter fraud, and an illegitimate president in the office are just fine for you?
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Yes.

 

[tabzer]

bruh...
I literately debunked that site... only a few pages ago...
Just because the boy cries wolf, and a court case is filed, or someone says it happen
doesn't mean it did happen
you need to prove that it did.
again, reminder, the courts are stacked in Trumps favor if they were to be partisan. And even they dismissed his cases. Trump has appointed over 300 judges on lower courts (than the supreme court)
59 of those cases were thrown out. with 1 actually listened to, but that wasn't trying to prove widespread voter fraud in that one specific case.

You haven't debunked anything I posted.

 

[KingVamp]

Found the fraud.

 

[Deleted User]

You haven't debunked anything I posted.

A lot of evidence

challenge accepted. Don't be sad that I broke you kneecaps in this one.
so the source is https://www.depernolaw.com/
Going to the root, shows us that it's from attorney who's name is Matthew S. DePerno, Esq.
No issue right?
Well let's look at the website
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interesting, so he's claiming that there is evidence, okay, let's go ahead and look at the evidence.
View attachment 238062 Questionable plug for a ballot analyzer
but we can scroll down, let's go ahead and scroll down
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Okay cool he has sources, let's take a look at these sources.
1st one is fox news... Oh boy
Second one is a court filing, court filings don't mean much, since well, if you know anything about the 50+ court cases trump was thrown out of. you can file a case, doesn't mean you get one or have a valid one.
third source is from....
STEVEN CROWDER OH OH BOY
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FUNNNN
fourth source
links to a website called https://truthout.org/
I already have a funny feeling it's not trust worthy.
Fifth links to whitehouse.gov...
which is trump putting an executive order...
the next is from a website called https://hereistheevidence.com
can't find who owns it. however they have a youtube channel, and joined december 3rd... rather oddly late to the game.
the next is https://mapthefraud.atlassian.net/
requies login. can't find more, name is Natenezz Attack
seems like a alias.
after that is post https://thepostmillennial.com
So, let's now look at all those totally trustworthy news sources. I'll have it my next post since I'm about to hit the image limit likely.

So, fox news
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Should I had been surprised?
Okay next is truthout
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for once a left leaning one... with mixed score...
Again, for any who are confused. I take issues with sources that have anything below a mostly factual rating. If it's not factual, it goes in the trash. next is post....
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really?
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because that's the exact person is that not?
So your telling me that https://www.depernolaw.com/
isn't Matthew S, deperno

In other words "here's the evidence" uses evidence from websites that ALREADY can't be trusted. depernolaw links to that website and I specifically debunk "here's the evidence" So yes this is relevant in this case

 

[smf]

wait... How? You do realize that enough statistical observations IS scientific proof. Saying that isn't is kinda insane.

It's really not. Scientific proof of an order would have to consider more than just who was at risk, but who is likely to spread it and who is going to get symptoms bad enough that they die.

We don't know yet whether the vaccines prevent asymptomatic spreading. We don't know whether different racial groups are more likely to die because of genetics or economic. There is promising research into gene testing for people who are more likely to get bad symptoms and they are now trying to figure out if those are more prevalent in different communities.

If you focus on the broad at risk groups first then you could end up with a lot of super spreaders and mutations that the vaccine is ineffective for.

But we are where we are, they have some statistical observations and that is what they are likely to go with.

Bottom line, everyone has to have it.

 

[Deleted User]

It's really not. Scientific proof of an order would have to consider more than just who was at risk, but who is likely to spread it and who is going to get symptoms bad enough that they die.

are we seriously going to play the cut off sentences game.

wait... How? You do realize that enough statistical observations IS scientific proof. Saying that isn't is kinda insane.
We already know that elderly is at risk. Given that their immune systems, through statistical observation is weaker. The black community is disproportional effected due to wealth distribution being generally unequal. The amount of money you have access to can effect a lot of your heath, since it limits purchasing options. This would also mean that they are disproportionately going to have health issues, which covid will happily exploit.

When you make a proper correlation through enough data, yes statistical proof can become scientific proof. Not all things correlate into causation. However given enough evidence through data and observation, that enables said proof.

Noticing that black communities are poorer in previous studies, and noting that black people are more dis-proportionally effected by obesity, (likely due to the lack of fiances, and poorer education due to cities funding black community schools less) combined with covid's better ability to kill when there is a comorbidity. Makes it that yes, Black communities are at higher risk. Elderly are also at higher risk considering their age. Their immune systems generally speaking do not perform as well as younger people. A RNA based vaccine would be both their best chance since it wouldn't be infecting t

Bottom line, everyone has to have it.

I agree that everyone does. However if they had to enroll it out slowly(which seems like it might be the case), they would want to focus on high risk groups first.

 

[smf]

However if they had to enroll it out slowly(which seems like it might be the case), they would want to focus on high risk groups first.

Right, but that is more for sentimental reasons and lack of scientific evidence of individuals who should be given priority. Not all 80+ year olds die, not everyone who died was over 80. It's a best efforts guess, don't mistake that for scientific proof. It's really hard to prove something scientifically.

It wouldn't surprise me if in a few years time if someone came up with evidence that we should have vaccinated the children first.