Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[UltraSUPRA]

About a 1% death rate when you include all age groups.

1%.

One. Percent.

I know of mental illnesses that are deadlier than that, and they're celebrated.

All age groups can spread the disease.

Well, yeah. It's a disease.

Young people without health issues have died from COVID-19, despite the odds being low.

Obesity is a health issue.

Oh, and 244,000 Americans are dead, and that's with masks and physical distancing. Yes, how scary.

Across ten months. Only 623 Americans died from COVID yesterday.

You made the positive claim. Put up or shut up.

I already did.

 

[smf]

Yet your side has no issues allowing hundreds of thousands of protesters and partiers to forgo the lockdown and quarantine rules when they feel like it. You're a hypocrite.

I'm only responsible for myself, I personally think the BLM marches and celebrations when Biden won the election were wrong. So don't call me a hypocrit. I didn't pick a side then blindly sign up to believe every thing they told me, the way you frame your accusation it would seem you think that is normal to do that.

I know of mental illnesses that are deadlier than that, and they're celebrated.

Voting republican?

Obesity is a health issue.

Yes it is. But young people with no health issues (and therefore not obese) have died.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

I'm only responsible for myself

This is my stance on COVID.

Voting republican?

I'm talking more along the lines of 41%.

Yes it is. But young people with no health issues have died.

Put up or shut up.

 

[smf]

You're the people who treat whites differently then blacks or browns and then have the audacity to call our side racist.

I'm the "people"? I'm one person, I don't treat anyone differently. You might feel singled out because people want to ban all your racist shit, but I don't treat anyone different.

 

[Lacius]

1%.

One. Percent.

When we are talking about a disease that will infect about everyone if left unchecked, that's a lot of death. If we did no masks and no physical distancing, that would be over 3 million deaths in the United States alone. When you consider how overwhelmed hospitals would be, that number would probably be much higher.

I know of mental illnesses that are deadlier than that, and they're celebrated.

I'm unaware of a deadly mental illness that's celebrated. What are you referring to?

Obesity is a health issue.

Yes it is, which increases the chances of dying from COVID-19, even while young.

Across ten months. Only 623 Americans died from COVID yesterday.

1. That's a lot of people in one day.
2. That number is increasing, and it will likely skyrocket as hospitals begin to be strained for resources again. The current projection is over 2,000 deaths most days in January.
3. Sundays and Mondays are low reporting days, and that's one of the reasons why it's important to look at 7-day averages, not single days. There were 1,324 deaths the day before yesterday, for example.

 

[smf]

I'm talking more along the lines of 41%.

Is this a riddle?

Put up or shut up.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937e4.htm

Persons aged <21 years constitute 26% of the U.S. population (4), and this report describes characteristics of U.S. persons in that population who died in association with SARS-CoV-2 infection, as reported by public health jurisdictions. Among 121 SARS-CoV-2–associated deaths reported to CDC among persons aged <21 years in the United States during February 12–July 31, 2020, 63% occurred in males, 10% of decedents were aged <1 year, 20% were aged 1–9 years, 70% were aged 10–20 years, 45% were Hispanic persons, 29% were non-Hispanic Black (Black) persons, and 4% were non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native (AI/AN) persons. Among these 121 decedents, 91 (75%) had an underlying medical condition,* 79 (65%) died after admission to a hospital, and 39 (32%) died at home or in the emergency department (ED).

25% had no underlying health condition.

 

[gregory-samba]

I'm only responsible for myself, I personally think the BLM marches and celebrations when Biden won the election were wrong. So don't call me a hypocrit. I didn't pick a side then blindly sign up to believe every thing they told me, the way you frame your accusation it would seem you think that is normal to do that.

That's good you claim you don't blindly follow what your leaders and media tell you to think, believe and be outraged by. However, you'd have fooled me because you act just like the rest of the liberals do.

This is my stance on COVID.

There's so much hypocrisy coming from the left that they don't even try to be consistent any more. They just do what makes them feel good or whatever they want to do. They spent most of this year shaming and getting people arrested for gathering in groups and then say fuck it and go gather in groups hundreds of times larger whenever they feel like it. They fucking know they are wrong and they just don't care.

I'm the "people"? I'm one person, I don't treat anyone differently. You might feel singled out because people want to ban all your racist shit, but I don't treat anyone different.

Yes, you and the rest of the Liberals. You also keep claiming I'm racist yet I'm not a Liberal. So that wouldn't make much sense. Me being racist and all.

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Wow, a whole 121 people. That's some big ass sample size that you know, reflects the entire population. /s

 

[UltraSUPRA]

When we are talking about a disease that will infect about everyone if left unchecked, that's a lot of death. If we did no masks and no physical distancing, that would be over 3 million deaths in the United States alone. When you consider how overwhelmed hospitals would be, that number would probably be much higher.

No cost is too great.

I'm unaware of a deadly mental illness that's celebrated. What are you referring to?

41% of all trans people commit suicide.

Yes it is, which increases the chances of dying from COVID-19, even while young.

The same can be said for any disease.

1. That's a lot of people in one day.
2. That number is increasing, and it will likely skyrocket as hospitals begin to be strained for resources again. The current projection is over 2,000 deaths most days in January.
3. Sundays and Mondays are low reporting numbers, and that's one of the reasons why it's important to look at 7-day averages, not single days. There were 1,324 deaths the day before yesterday, for example.

1. A lot of people? Sure, but it's barely a dent in the national daily general death rate.
2. Yes, they're growing, but not at the same rate as cases.
3. Sundays and Mondays are low-reporting numbers? I suppose we don't have to wear masks during those days, then.

 

[Lacius]

No cost is too great.

41% of all trans people commit suicide.

The same can be said for any disease.

1. A lot of people? Sure, but it's barely a dent in the national daily general death rate.
2. Yes, they're growing, but not at the same rate as cases.
3. Sundays and Mondays are low-reporting numbers? I suppose we don't have to wear masks during those days, then.

1. Being trans is not a mental illness.
2. No, 41% of trans people don't kill themselves.
3. Higher suicide rates among the LGBT community are due to society's mistreatment of these groups. In other words, assholes like you who call being trans a mental illness are to blame for high suicide rates. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
4. Hundreds of deaths a day (it's more like 1,000+ a day, and it will probably hit 2,000 a day soonish) is too many. You already said earlier you don't care about the lives of strangers.
5. The death rate is not going up at the same rate as cases. However, as cases go up, hospitalizations go up. As hospitalizations go up, the death rate eventually skyrockets as hospitals are low on resources.
6. Sundays and Mondays are low reporting days, not low infection rate days. Use your brain.

 

[AmandaRose]

41% of all trans people commit suicide.

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That is an utter bullshit claim the figure worldwide sits at 3% of trans people commit suicide. The figures for gays that commit suicide is 2.5% and the same for straight people. The only country in the world that has a trans suicide rate of 40% is America which funnily enough is ranked as one of the most transpobic countries in the world so I wounder why the suicide rate is so high hmmm.

 

[Lacius]

That is an utter bullshit claim the figure worldwide sits at 3% of trans people commit suicide. The figures for gays that commit suicide is 2.5% and the same for straight people. The only country in the world that has a trans suicide rate of 40% is America which funnily enough is ranked as one of the most transpobic countries in the world so I wounder why the suicide rate is so high hmmm.

For the record, the 41% number in the US is attempts, not actual suicides. But, way too high a number, and we know that number wouldn't be any higher than the general public's if it weren't for transphobes like him.

 

[ut2k4master]

No cost is too great.

you wouldnt care if your parents or grandparents died because of covid?

 

[Doran754]

41% of all trans people (in America) try to commit suicide, and yet people in here are claiming it's not a mental illness. Cuckoo. Yeah because it's normal to try and kill yourself.

 

[KingVamp]

regarding the Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus.

That's a lot of effort to write that every single time than just saying virus or covid.

 

[ut2k4master]

41% of all trans people (in America) try to commit suicide, and yet people in here are claiming it's not a mental illness. Cuckoo. Yeah because it's normal to try and kill yourself.

its a mental illness driving people to suicide

 

[Xzi]

So many people violate social distancing here that it is unbelievable. But part of that comes with living in super-crowded cities.

@Xzi I know you liked my comment but it is a terrible thing.

We do what we can. I know how crazy the population density is in a lot of Japan's cities, but it does help that almost all of the close contact is outdoors, and that nearly everybody is wearing masks. Also, my state and a number of others already have an app which utilizes bluetooth to tell you if you've been exposed to an infected individual. I imagine Japan had something like that way before us, and has much higher voluntary enrollment rates in it.

 

[Lacius]

41% of all trans people (in America) try to commit suicide, and yet people in here are claiming it's not a mental illness. Cuckoo. Yeah because it's normal to try and kill yourself.

Being trans is literally not a mental illness. LGBT people have increased rates of suicide because of the way they're treated by homophobes and transphobes.

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you wouldnt care if your parents or grandparents died because of covid?

He doesn't care about people in general, and he already admitted it that strangers don't matter because they're strangers.

 

[Doran754]

Being trans is literally not a mental illness. LGBT people have increased rates of suicide because of the way they're treated by homophobes and transphobes.

Yeah this is bullshit. Show me the stats, then cross it with stats of non trans people who are bullied or try to commit suicide. To say "yeah they just try to kill themselves coz of homophobes" is pathetic and totally disregards the fact they have a mental illness. Do you think 41% of people who are bullied try to commit suicide? Maybe they do, I'd like to see the stats. Back up your claim that 41% of trans people try to kill themselves based solely on being bullied by homophobes and transphobes.

 

[AmandaRose]

So to all you saying its a mental illness let me explain the whole process you need to go through to transition. Sure it may be different round the world but its mostly follows the same process that we have in Scotland which is.

Two years and sometimes more of evaluation and various tests by a psychiatrist to check you DON'T have a mental illness. Once they are convinced you DON'T have a mental illness then have to face a panel of another 5 psychiatrists and you only get 3 hours to convince all 5 that you don't have any mental illnesses. Pass then its still not over as more tests are done by the first psychiatrist until you eventually get your meeting with the Scottish Minister for Health who you once again have to convince that you DON'T have a mental illness. If she says yes then you join the waiting list for GRS. And while you wait you guessed it more tests.

And that is just the condensed version of events. And that is why I get defensive with the whole it's a mental disorder thing. I have probably had more tests done to me than 99% of the temp members and therefore I feel safe in saying I am mentally stable unlike some on this site.

 

[Lacius]

Yeah this is bullshit. Show me the stats, then cross it with stats of non trans people who are bullied or try to commit suicide. To say "yeah they just try to kill themselves coz of homophobes" is pathetic and totally disregards the fact they have a mental illness. Do you think 41% of people who are bullied try to commit suicide? Maybe they do, I'd like to see the stats. Back up your claim that 41% of trans people try to kill themselves based solely on being bullied by homophobes and transphobes.

Do some research before spouting what just feels true, because it's just going to embarrass you when you don't. Trans youth experience unprecedented family rejection, homelessness because of the aforementioned family rejection, bullying, harassment, issues affecting physical safety, etc. LGBT youth are more than twice as likely to be homeless.

https://www.hrc.org/news/new-study-reveals-shocking-rates-of-attempted-suicide-among-trans-adolescen

https://transequality.org/issues/housing-homelessness

"One in five transgender people in the United States has been discriminated when seeking a home, and more than one in ten have been evicted from their homes, because of their gender identity."