Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[AmandaRose]

Yeah this is bullshit. Show me the stats, then cross it with stats of non trans people who are bullied or try to commit suicide. To say "yeah they just try to kill themselves coz of homophobes" is pathetic and totally disregards the fact they have a mental illness. Do you think 41% of people who are bullied try to commit suicide? Maybe they do, I'd like to see the stats. Back up your claim that 41% of trans people try to kill themselves based solely on being bullied by homophobes and transphobes.

Here is the stats if you want more I can easily provide them

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/suicidality-transgender-adults/

 

[Doran754]

Do some research before spouting what just feels true, because it's just going to embarrass you when you don't. Trans youth experience unprecedented family rejection, homelessness because of the aforementioned family rejection, bullying, harassment, issues affecting physical safety, etc. LGBT youth are more than twice as likely to be homeless.

https://www.hrc.org/news/new-study-reveals-shocking-rates-of-attempted-suicide-among-trans-adolescen

What's homelessness got to do with it, why does the left try and victimise everyone. Anybody can experience family rejection homelessness bullying harassment etc, literally anyone. None of this changes the fact that if 41% of trans people try and kill themselves, and its not 41% for those who aren't trans, well maybe theres a mental issue there. Just kidding LOL everybody's a victim, my bad.

Here is the stats you want more I can easily provide them

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/suicidality-transgender-adults/

I'm asking for the suicide rates between non trans and trans and the direct link that being trans and being bullied by non trans people is directly responsible to their suicide attempts.

 

[Lacius]

What's homelessness got to do with it, why does the left try and victimise everyone. Anybody can experience family rejection homelessness bullying harassment etc, literally anyone. None of this changes the fact that if 41% of trans people try and kill themselves, and its not 41% for those who aren't trans, well maybe theres a mental issue there. Just kidding LOL everybody's a victim, my bad.

Lol at "what does being kicked out of your home by your parents have to do with youth suicide rates?"

Grow up.

 

[Doran754]

Here is the stats you want more I can easily provide them

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/suicidality-transgender-adults/

I'm asking for the suicide rates between non trans and trans and the direct link that being trans and being bullied by non trans people is directly responsible to their suicide attempts.

Lol at "what does being kicked out of your home by your parents have to do with youth suicide rates?"

Grow up.

Because only trans people get kicked out. Being kicked out doesn't equate a mental illness. Many people are kicked out and are far stronger for it.

 

[Lacius]

I'm asking for the suicide rates between non trans and trans and the direct link that being trans and being bullied by non trans people is directly responsible to their suicide attempts.


Because only trans people get kicked out. Being kicked out doesn't equate a mental illness. Many people are kicked out and are far stronger for it.

Trans youth are kicked out of their homes far more often than their non-trans counterparts. The data is clear about that. There are literal LGBT youth shelters because of it.

Do you live under a rock, or are you willfully stupid?

 

[Doran754]

Trans youth are kicked out of their homes far more often than their non-trans counterparts. The data is clear about that. There are literal LGBT youth shelters because of it.

Do you live under a rock, or are you willfully stupid?

There are literal youth shelters for everything. Nothing you've said proves trans people try and commit suicide only because of transphobes which was your original claim. Absolutely nothing, maybe instead of coming up with flimsy excuses about how it's everyone elses fault, they should seek help and have mental wellness checks. That could cut down on apparently suicide attemps. Or you could just blame everyone else, that's good also.

 

[Lacius]

Just so I am clear, I don't mean to come off as rude with @shamzie and others. It's often not fair to condemn mere ignorance. But, there's no excuse for stubbornly arguing idiotic positions. It demonstrates poor judgement and a willful ignorance. If he doesn't know what he's talking about, he should listen, not blather on about something he's ignorant about.

There are literal youth shelters for everything. Nothing you've said proves trans people try and commit suicide only because of transphobes which was your original claim. Absolutely nothing, maybe instead of coming up with flimsy excuses about how it's everyone elses fault, they should seek help and have mental wellness checks. That could cut down on apparently suicide attemps. Or you could just blame everyone else, that's good also.

You clearly didn't check my sources. There's no mystery with regard to why trans people are killing themselves.

Edit: instead of waiting for my post just so you can get your next word in, actually read my posts and check my links. You'll learn something and become a better person for it.

 

[SonowRaevius]

Yeah this is bullshit. Show me the stats, then cross it with stats of non trans people who are bullied or try to commit suicide. To say "yeah they just try to kill themselves coz of homophobes" is pathetic and totally disregards the fact they have a mental illness. Do you think 41% of people who are bullied try to commit suicide? Maybe they do, I'd like to see the stats. Back up your claim that 41% of trans people try to kill themselves based solely on being bullied by homophobes and transphobes.

Goes a little further than bullying there champ.

LGBTQ+ people are thrown out of their homes by their own family and made to feel like it is there own fault for something they couldn't help more than breathing or that they are monsters/abominations for it.

There are some that straight up won't do business with them and on top of that living in a society where they are constantly made out to be freaks, perverts, or pedos/child molesters on top of being outright beaten or even killed for being who they are.

Maybe try being just a bit empathetic and try to understand people's troubles before you just oversimplify it in the future.

 

[Xzi]

There are literal youth shelters for everything. Nothing you've said proves trans people try and commit suicide only because of transphobes which was your original claim. Absolutely nothing, maybe instead of coming up with flimsy excuses about how it's everyone elses fault, they should seek help and have mental wellness checks. That could cut down on apparently suicide attemps. Or you could just blame everyone else, that's good also.

Or you could stop being a lazy prick and look up the violent crime rates directed at trans people yourself. They're literally the most targeted group in America, even by Trump administration numbers. But why am I trying to convince you, you're a prime example of intolerance born from ignorance and insecurity.

 

[KingVamp]

The thing that is actual a mental disorder is having a lack of empathy.

He doesn't care about people in general, and he already admitted it that strangers don't matter because they're strangers.

How does one admit this and think they are on the right "side"?

 

[Lacius]

The thing that is actual a mental disorder is having a lack of empathy.


How does one admit this and think they are on the right "side"?

He's a child. He might not even comprehend death yet.

 

[KingVamp]

He's a child. He might not even comprehend death yet.

Honestly asking, is this a valid excuse? Like do kids tend to act this way? Complete disregard of other people?

 

[Lacius]

Honestly asking, is this a valid excuse? Like do kids tend to act this way? Complete disregard of other people?

It's not a valid excuse, but I see it in my line of work. They sometimes grow out of it.

 

[Doran754]

Or you could stop being a lazy prick and look up the violent crime rates directed at trans people yourself. They're literally the most targeted group in America, even by Trump administration numbers. But why am I trying to convince you, you're a prime example of intolerance born from ignorance and insecurity.

What part of my post displayed insecurity? What part displayed intolerance. I said they should get the mental health checks they need so they don't try and kill themselves. Just because you get all emotional and insulting doesn't make you correct, look I can do it too you foul mothed fucking dickhead. See how easy that was. Cunt.

 

[Lacius]

What part of my post displayed insecurity? What part displayed intolerance. I said they should get the mental health checks they need so they don't try and kill themselves. Just because you get all emotional and insulting doesn't make you correct, look I can do it too you foul mothed fucking dickhead. See how easy that was. Cunt.

You've inarguably demonstrated prejudice with your posts. Read my posts and educate yourself, and the world will become a slightly better place.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

you wouldnt care if your parents or grandparents died because of covid?

My parents agree with me. My grandparents survived without a scratch. Try again.

 

[Doran754]

You've inarguably demonstrated prejudice with your posts. Read my posts and educate yourself, and the world will become a slightly better place.

No I really haven't, not conforming too your world view on every little thing doesn't make me prejudice racist a bigot a xenephobe transphobic or any other of your lefty buzzwords you all like to spout out. I showed compassion for people with mental health issues who try to kill themselves. Nothing more.

 

[Lacius]

No I really haven't, not conforming too your world view on every little thing doesn't make me prejudice racist a bigot a xenephobe transphobic or any other of your lefty buzzwords you all like to spout out. I showed compassion for people with mental health issues who try to kill themselves. Nothing more.

The fact that you keep calling a group of people with an immutable characteristic "mentally ill" when they literally and demonstrably are not mentally ill is prejudice. Like, by definition.

We've already explained why suicide rates are higher among the LGBT community. You're the one who has his fingers in his ears screaming lalala.

I'm sorry the facts are inconvenient for your transphobic worldview.

 

[tabzer]

We do what we can. I know how crazy the population density is in a lot of Japan's cities, but it does help that almost all of the close contact is outdoors, and that nearly everybody is wearing masks. Also, my state and a number of others already have an app which utilizes bluetooth to tell you if you've been exposed to an infected individual. I imagine Japan had something like that way before us, and has much higher voluntary enrollment rates in it.

People still pack like sardines into the subway. In offices and schools, people will still touch are talk directly to your face--kids will do the former while adults and kids alike will do the latter. People rarely cover their mouths when they cough and sneeze. It's Japanese culture to really let let them out as loud as you can to, as if to make sure everything is ejected with as much velocity as possible. In the initial phase of the situation, schools were delayed in reopening and many businesses changed hours and policies. People practiced social distancing. It has regressed though. I think it is miraculous that the situation is not as not as bad as reported in other places. I think the difference in strains might be a big reason, but of course Japanese people don't have an aversion to masks, as it is already a customary attitude. I'm sure that the mandatory imposition of masks would have an opposite effect. You can't really control others without creating further complications. You can only really just try to be careful and take care of yourself and others who are receptive to help.

As a side note, the Japanese government is not allowed to enforce shutdowns. Delays in school reopenings were decided by their respective ministries while businesses made the choices for themselves. The Japanese government was allowed to make the recommendation and offered different types of recompensation which helped some, but it bred a whole new type of scamming which takes advantage of it.

 

[KageNinja]

Do you people still think that Joe Biden is president?