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That seems like an awfully big stretch as well, which is probably why nobody's attempted to bring that argument to court.

Some rebtards actually did.

https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendmen...d-the-first-amendment-a-running-report-may-21

A Nevada church, having lost its First Amendment case before the U.S. Supreme Court once, is trying again, reports The Associated Press via SFGate.

The high court ruled 5-4 in July against Calvary Chapel Dayton Valley in its attempt to block a 50-person state limit on indoor church attendance. “This case is an ideal vehicle to solve the nationwide problem of government discrimination against churches in ad hoc COVID-19 orders,” church lawyers said of the new filing.

They kinda have a point about other venues being allowed more, but they should be arguing to shut them down and not open theirs up.
 
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  1. It probably won't be five years until we have a vaccine available to the general public.
  2. I have the patience to wear a mask for five years because, like, it's not a hard thing to do, and I care about the lives of other human beings.
1. Vaccines have never been developed this quickly. I ain't trusting what they're working on if it's this close to release. We have Regeneron.
2. IT. HURTS.
It's a fucking mask. You also can't talk about freedom when you prioritize not wearing a mask on your delicate little face over the freedom of people to not catch COVID-19 from assholes like you. I don't think you understand what liberty is.
If you're that scared of getting sick, you don't have to go outside. If you feel sick, you shouldn't go outside. This has been our way of life for years, why do we need to change it? Because 80% of all cases are asymptomatic? Because if anything, that means this whole thing is nothing to worry about.
The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Lockdown doesn't affect your freedom of speech.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Since when is saving lives "oppressive"?

liberty: the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behaviour, or political views.
My way of life involves seeing smiling faces.
You really need to grow up. It's no different to seat belts, speed limits & age restriction on drinking alcohol.
"Protecting strangers from a virus with an over 99% survival rate is no different to protecting yourself from near-guaranteed death by a head-on collision or from underage drunkenness."
 

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Japan has had no forced lockdowns and did less than what the US did in terms of nationwide government action. Its citizens are just pretty obedient where a recommendation is usually good enough. People thinking Trump is going to protect Americans from themselves is just another deflection from the lack of self-responsibility people probably ought to have. Of course, that doesn't make Japan immune, as it hasn't had to deal with the European and American strains which appear mors contagious, yet.
 
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2. IT. HURTS.

You're wearing it wrong if your mask hurts in caps font size 7.

the right of the people peaceably to assemble

You're not peaceably assembling as you're unable to prevent the spread of covid to another person.
You may not believe in covid, but that doesn't matter.
 

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You're right, it's actually the first amendment that lockdowns violate.


The Freedom of Assembly Clause is to do with people's right to gather to demonstrate and they can be banned at time of national emergency.

Its stated in the first amendment lol.

 

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1. Vaccines have never been developed this quickly. I ain't trusting what they're working on if it's this close to release. We have Regeneron.
2. IT. HURTS.

If you're that scared of getting sick, you don't have to go outside. If you feel sick, you shouldn't go outside. This has been our way of life for years, why do we need to change it? Because 80% of all cases are asymptomatic? Because if anything, that means this whole thing is nothing to worry about.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



My way of life involves seeing smiling faces.

"Protecting strangers from a virus with an over 99% survival rate is no different to protecting yourself from near-guaranteed death by a head-on collision or from underage drunkenness."
As I've said numerous times in the past without you addressing it, you cannot be against a mask mandate while also being against laws against speeding, for example. If you don't want to be hit by a speeding motorist, for example, don't go on the road. That's what you sound like.

Also, if a mask hurts, you're using the wrong one or wearing it wrong.
 

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Japan has had no forced lockdowns and did less than what the US fid in terms of nationwide government actions. Its citizens are just pretty obedient where a recommendation is usually good enough.
Exactly, like 99.9% of you probably wore masks and socially distanced as you were asked to.

People thinking Trump is going to protect Americans from themselves is just another deflection from the lack of self-responsibility people probably ought to have.
Only Trump supporters listen to what Trump has to say, but they really listen. If he told everybody to wear masks from the start and was consistent about that message, they would've obeyed. And Democrats would've worn masks all the same since they actually listen to science and the CDC. So yes, Trump could have saved us from his supporters, who are instead the worst superspreaders of the virus here in the US.
 

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The Freedom of Assembly Clause is to do with people's right to gather to demonstrate

People are free to demonstrate on the internet, it is safer and more effective as you don't end up with idiots ruining it by vandalizing property.

As I've said numerous times in the past without you addressing it, you cannot be against a mask mandate while also being against laws against speeding, for example. If you don't want to be hit by a speeding motorist, for example, don't go on the road. That's what you sound like.

You can't be anti-mask & anti-abortion either.
 

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As I've said numerous times in the past without you addressing it, you cannot be against a mask mandate while also being against laws against speeding, for example. If you don't want to be hit by a speeding motorist, for example, don't go on the road. That's what you sound like.
If you hit another car, both of you die. Speeding puts you in just as much danger as everyone who isn't.
Also, if a mask hurts, you're using the wrong one or wearing it wrong.
I've tried multiple types.

Oh, also, you seem to always ignore when I post that article from a few months back that said that the Coronavirus mutated to bypass masks.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/covid-19-mutation-may-be-evolving-to-bypass-masks-hand-washing/
 

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Exactly, like 99.9% of you probably wore masks and socially distanced as you were asked to.


Only Trump supporters listen to what Trump has to say, but they really listen. If he told everybody to wear masks from the start and was consistent about that message, they would've obeyed. And Democrats would've worn masks all the same since they actually listen to science and the CDC. So yes, Trump could have saved us from his supporters, who are instead the worst superspreaders of the virus here in the US.

So many people violate social distancing here that it is unbelievable. But part of that comes with living in super-crowded cities.
 
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If you hit another car, both of you die. Speeding puts you in just as much danger as everyone who isn't.

If you hit another person then you put your wipers on to remove their guts from your windshield.

They shouldn't have been walking on the sidewalk right?

You can't remove my liberty by saying I can't drive where I want.
Heck, I should be able to be out for a walk and shoot randomly with my eyes closed if I feel like it right?
It's not like I'm aiming at people with the intention of killing them.

If you don't like it stay indoors. It's not my fault you get in the way.
 
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If you hit another car, both of you die. Speeding puts you in just as much danger as everyone who isn't.

I've tried multiple types.

Oh, also, you seem to always ignore when I post that article from a few months back that said that the Coronavirus mutated to bypass masks.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/covid-19-mutation-may-be-evolving-to-bypass-masks-hand-washing/
If you don't wear a mask, you put your health and the health of others at risk. It's analogous to speeding.

Fact check: The COVID-19 virus has not evolved to bypass masks and hand-washing. I wasn't aware you even believed in evolution.
 

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If you don't wear a mask, you put your health and the health of others at risk. It's analogous to speeding.
Yeah, a 99.997% survival rate for anyone under the age of twenty. How scary.
Fact check: The COVID-19 virus has not evolved to bypass masks and hand-washing.
*no source*
I wasn't aware you even believed in evolution.
It's adapting, not evolving.
 
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It's adapting, not evolving.

Adaptation
Evolutionary adaptation, or simply adaptation, is the adjustment of organisms to their environment in order to improve their chances at survival in that environment.

It's evolving, like we did (your imaginary god did not create us).
 
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Yeah, a 99.997% survival rate for anyone under the age of twenty. How scary.
About a 1% death rate when you include all age groups. All age groups can spread the disease. Young people without health issues have died from COVID-19, despite the odds being low. Oh, and 244,000 Americans are dead, and that's with masks and physical distancing. Yes, how scary.

Edit: To be clear, I'm not afraid of COVID-19. However, it should be taken seriously.

*no source*
You made the positive claim. Put up or shut up.

It's adapting, not evolving.
In science, there's no distinction.
 
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Xzi said:
That seems like an awfully big stretch as well, which is probably why nobody's attempted to bring that argument to court. The purpose of lockdowns is to save lives, and thus they don't violate any part of the constitution. Protecting its citizenry is one of the primary functions of government, so allowing infections and deaths to spike without putting any new safety measures in place or providing any financial relief to the American people is paramount to dereliction of duty. Trump is a traitor and so is any Republican still backing him.

Yet your side has no issues allowing hundreds of thousands of protesters and partiers to forgo the lockdown and quarantine rules when they feel like it. You're a hypocrite.

smf said:
Some rebtards actually did.

https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendmen...d-the-first-amendment-a-running-report-may-21

A Nevada church, having lost its First Amendment case before the U.S. Supreme Court once, is trying again, reports The Associated Press via SFGate.

The high court ruled 5-4 in July against Calvary Chapel Dayton Valley in its attempt to block a 50-person state limit on indoor church attendance. “This case is an ideal vehicle to solve the nationwide problem of government discrimination against churches in ad hoc COVID-19 orders,” church lawyers said of the new filing.

They kinda have a point about other venues being allowed more, but they should be arguing to shut them down and not open theirs up.
Yet your side has no issues allowing hundreds of thousands of protesters and partiers to forgo the lockdown and quarantine rules when they feel like it. You're a hypocrite.

tabzer said:
Japan has had no forced lockdowns and did less than what the US did in terms of nationwide government action. Its citizens are just pretty obedient where a recommendation is usually good enough. People thinking Trump is going to protect Americans from themselves is just another deflection from the lack of self-responsibility people probably ought to have. Of course, that doesn't make Japan immune, as it hasn't had to deal with the European and American strains which appear mors contagious, yet.

Lack of any personal responsibility is cherished by the Leftist Liberals.

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Yes, but we are talking about the systemic oppression of Black people in this country.

So am I. If you haven't noticed institutions can't think and they are not people or have brains. It's the humans that make up the Government that are either racist or not. Systemic racism is just another way to say people are racist as it boils down to the individual being racist or not. I know your kind doesn't like the individual to have rights and I know you don't like to blame single people when it's your side getting blamed, but it does indeed boil down to each persons own actions. Systemic racism is just another word for normal racism and if you haven't noticed your side fought a war to keep their slaves, they started the KKK after losing that war to harass and intimidate Republican Blacks from voting and recently created the set of Jim Crowe Laws that gave blacks shitty treatment. Your side has also been on a hate white people kick for some years too. You're all just a bunch of racists regardless of how you want to say "racist".

tabzer said:
I'm just having a ball with this. This is gbatemp.net, the only place on the internet where everything can and is exploited, except politics and voting machines. I cannot be the only one thinking this.

These Liberals here on this forum know damn well the polling machines, the software and the people can be rigged or cheat, it's just they don't want to admit it. They want people on their side to cheat. Liberals value dishonestly.

smf said:
As a racist like you obviously are, it must be terrible having a president that doesn't support white supremacy groups.

You're the people who treat whites differently then blacks or browns and then have the audacity to call our side racist. Even though the dumb Liberals like to call everyone that disagrees with them the "far right", the actual far right is much, much smaller than the far left and is mostly made up of neo nazi's or racists and pale in comparison to the number of radical liberals there are. We don't condone racism and you do.
 
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