Rep. Urges Democratic Party Removed for Historically Supporting Racism

[UltraSUPRA]

I assume you mean National Socialism?
Google says it's "Nationalsozialismus"
Is that what you wanted?

Yup.

 

[Seliph]

The constitution does not guarantee anybody the right to a violent protest. These people that come out night after night to create damage, riot, loot, and murder or attempted murder are domestic terrorists, and should be treated as such.

They'd be peaceful if police stopped attacking us.

Yup.

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[UltraSUPRA]

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Reread what I quoted.

 

[stomp_442]

They'd be peaceful if police stopped attacking us.

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Just because the police are there is no reason for anybody to go into a destructive rage. Who goes out a protests something for 60 days. These people are out there for one reason only, and it's not for George Floyd.

 

[Seliph]

Reread what I quoted.

Yes, Nazi is the shortened form of Nationalsozialismus, anyone who has taken a high school history class knows this.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Yes, Nazi is the shortened form of Nationalsozialismus, anyone who has taken a high school history class knows this.

Which translates to...?

 

[Seliph]

Which translates to...?

National Socialism. Again, anyone who has taken a high school history class knows this.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

National Socialism. Again, anyone who has taken a high school history class knows this.

Now put the pieces together...

 

[Seliph]

Now put the pieces together...

Good god just make the point you're trying to make. National Socialism is not, nor was it ever socialism. Read some of Hitler's speeches or read Mein Kampf where he directly denounces socialism. Literally some of the first people rounded up by the Nazis were actual socialists.
https://fullfact.org/online/nazis-socialists/ check out this link for more info.

Do you think National Socialism is Socialism just because it has Socialism in the name? Do you think the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea) is either Democratic or the People's or even a Republic just because it has Democratic people's Republic in the name? Would you believe me if I told you that I'm an actual prince from a video game just because my online name is Seliph, based on a video game character?

Anyone with an ounce of knowledge about Socialism or Nazis or Fascism or basic history would understand that the Nazis were not Socialists and you look like a fool when you suggest that Nazis could ever be considered Socialists in the first place.

When you call the Nazis Socialist you are literally giving into and believing actual Nazi propaganda, not a good look.

 

[Xzi]

Now put the pieces together...

Nothing but strawmen and bad faith arguments from you. How are the pieces supposed to "come together" when self-proclaimed nationalists in America are part of the alt-right, and socialism is an economic philosophy embraced only by the left? Much like anarcho-capitalism, it makes no goddamn sense from a historical (see Seliph's post) or modern perspective.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Do you think National Socialism is Socialism just because it has Socialism in the name? Do you think the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea) is either Democratic or the People's or even a Republic just because it has Democratic people's Republic in the name? Would you believe me if I told you that I'm an actual prince from a video game just because my online name is Seliph, based on a video game character?

Do you believe ANTIFA are anti-fascist, simply because it's in the name?
Do you believe Black Lives Matter supports black lives, just because it's in the name?

No, those are Marxist terrorist groups using people like you as fodder for their own protection.
They don't care about you, they care about their movement and nothing else. Otherwise, they wouldn't be killing innocent old ladies.

I'll put it this way: Black Lives Matter is the Klu Klux Klan for black people.

 

[Seliph]

Do you believe ANTIFA are anti-fascist, simply because it's in the name?
Do you believe Black Lives Matter supports black lives, just because it's in the name?

No, those are Marxist terrorist groups using people like you as fodder for their own protection.
They don't care about you, they care about their movement and nothing else. Otherwise, they wouldn't be killing innocent old ladies.

I'll put it this way: Black Lives Matter is the Klu Klux Klan for black people.

No, I believe Antifa is Antifascist due to the movement's history of fighting fascism, literally read the Wikipedia page about Antifa and read about its history and you'll find that it was literally established to fight Fascism and you'll find the instances Anti-Fascists fought fascism, read about the battle of Cable Street, a literal example of Antifa fighting Fascists. I also believe Black Lives Matter supports black lives. The movement has been there every time a black person is killed by the police. They've fought for the rights of black people, and continue to fight for a more just society, so of course, they support black lives.

Unlike your words about National Socialism, I actually know what I'm talking about. I don't believe Antifa is Anti-Fascist because of its name and I don't believe BLM is pro-black because of its name, I believe those things because time and time again Anti-Fascists have been there to fight Fascism and time and time again BLM supporters have been there to fight for black lives and black rights.

Also, Marxism is cool. You clearly know nothing about the ideology.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Also, Marxism is cool. You clearly know nothing about the ideology.

Marxism has never worked.

 

[dude1]

National Socialism is Socialism its just not as socialist as your run of the mill Communism.
Communism and Nazism are two sides of the socialist coin.
the only truly successful thing i think the left and media have done was somehow convince the general public Nazi's were somehow a rightwing ideology, despite not being socially or economically right-wing.

 

[Seliph]

Marxism has never worked.

What does that even mean? Marxism is an ideology, not a form of government or economic system. Saying Marxism has never worked is like saying Christianity has never worked, it makes no sense.

 

[chrisrlink]

What does that even mean? Marxism is an ideology, not a form of government or economic system. Saying Marxism has never worked is like saying Christianity has never worked, it makes no sense.

well considering Christianity is hypocritical of itself (Love thy Neighbor and anti homosexual idealology) and considering it was basicly like the medieval version of isis (the crusades you know convert to christianity or die?) i would say christianity if not ALL religion "doesn't work"

 

[UltraSUPRA]

well considering Christianity is hypocritical of itself (Love thy Neighbor and anti homosexual idealology)

A-are you having sex with yourself?

considering it was basicly like the medieval version of isis (the crusades you know convert to christianity or die?) i would say christianity if not ALL religion "doesn't work"

Every group of everyone has extremists.

What does that even mean? Marxism is an ideology, not a form of government or economic system. Saying Marxism has never worked is like saying Christianity has never worked, it makes no sense.

Name one successful Socialist or Communist society.

 

[Seliph]

Name one successful Socialist or Communist society.

Vietnam.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Vietnam.

You mean the place where the government is shooting people down because of stolen crops?

 

[Hanafuda]

they sought to leave to retain their slaves. all you need to do is look at the confederate constitution.

You're arguing about something I never even discussed. I said the Confederate States wanted to leave the Union. They did not want to "overthrow the United States" which is what the person to whom I was replying said. I never discussed anything about WHY the Confederates wanted to found their own nation, nor did I say they had any good reason for doing so. (mostly because there's no reason for this thread to go there) I only said that it was incorrect to represent that they wanted to overthrow the United States. They wanted to dissolve their membership in the Union, similar to the UK "Brexit" from the EU, and AFAIK there was no legal mechanism in the Constitution that would prevent that at the time.