Do you support marijuana legalization?

[GhostLatte]

In FL when they legalized medical, they only authorized edibles and vapes. They had vapes as we think of them (with a pen-battery etc) but they also had literal vaporizers that came with pods. Inside the pods was actual marijuana lol. So they did try to legislate the not smoking it part, but ya some people just took it out of the pods and did what they wanted with it, as people do w/ most things.

Was it dry herb or oil?

 

[Benja81]

Was it dry herb or oil?

From what I read about it but not 1st hand, it was supposedly actual herb.

 

[CosmoCortney]

I do! Absolutely...
The legalization on cannabis would make new medical research possible to help fight various types of cancer, help people with rheumatism, sleeping issues, anxiety and depressions.
Here in Germany it is only legalized for medical use. But there's a huge bottleneck on availability and most psychotherapists don't dare to prescribe it or don't take you serious when suggestion using cannabis instead.
I myself am trying the 7th antidepressant now because the others stopped working for me even on the highest recommended dose. Others caused horrible side effects I couldn't stand any time longer.
But cannabis works differently since our body has its own cannabinoid system and knows quite well to deal with these substances. In contrary to these chemical bludgeons...

I think that determined selling can help fight illegal drug businesses and ensure a standard of quality. Additionally a huge variety of cannabis products can provide a new economical benefit.
Last but not least, life will be easier and more relaxing

 

[Subtle Demise]

Murder is worse than burglary, so should we legalize burglary?

Both of those have victims

 

[Deleted User]

Both of those have victims

So do drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.

 

[Skelletonike]

Short answer:

No.

 

[Subtle Demise]

So do drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.

How so? If your only victim is yourself, it's not a real crime. There are already laws against abuse and neglect, and they can happen while sober too, so you can't blame the drugs for those. As for the "broken family" argument, that situation is caused by legality and societal stigma and pressure.

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Short answer:

No.

Long answer?

 

[Skelletonike]

Long answer?

I've lost friendships to weed.
The case that upset me the most was my cousin, he was, without a doubt, my best friend at the time. We used to hang out all the time during our early to mid teen years, he was a skater and me, well, something along the lines of a punk obsessed with rpg games. We got along great, as time went by though, he started hanging with bad crowds, started smoking weed due to their influence. Well, as time went by our friendship became estranged.

I have lost more than one friend due to them starting weed. Some of them only stick to that and I still get along just fine with them. Others however, moved on to harsher things and our friendship got lost in the way. If they hadn't been introduced to weed, their lives would have been better nowadays. Some of them do not lead decent lives atm.

 

[BiggieCheese]

Yes.
Outside of the high risk ones, trying to ban drug use is a pointless measure, drugs - regardless of its shape or form - have been used by humanity for a very long time, you can’t stop people from taking them but what you can do is take things like statistics and reliably sourced health studies and ensure they’re easy to find and comprehend, allowing for people to make a well-informed decision on whether they should use a particular drug or not

 

[Benja81]

I've lost friendships to weed.
The case that upset me the most was my cousin, he was, without a doubt, my best friend at the time. We used to hang out all the time during our early to mid teen years, he was a skater and me, well, something along the lines of a punk obsessed with rpg games. We got along great, as time went by though, he started hanging with bad crowds, started smoking weed due to their influence. Well, as time went by our friendship became estranged.

I have lost more than one friend due to them starting weed. Some of them only stick to that and I still get along just fine with them. Others however, moved on to harsher things and our friendship got lost in the way. If they hadn't been introduced to weed, their lives would have been better nowadays. Some of them do not lead decent lives atm.

1st off, people grow, change, move away, move on etc. You may be using marijuana as a scape goat for simply the way life unfolds at times, but I cant tell you how to feel about that.

I do feel however that the 'gateway' argument is fatally flawed. Actually I think if marijuana was legal, it would be LESS of a gateway drug. Think of it this way: why do people not blame alcohol as being a gateway to harsher drugs? Its because alcohol is legal. The person that chooses to drink knows that as long as they aren't drunk in public, driving drunk, etc. that they are in no danger of legal consequences. If you smoke marijuana in a state/country where its illegal, you have now crossed a line into doing something illegal. Its now much easier to move on to something harder, since you're already on that side of the fence. Whereas the person drinking alcohol has not crossed that line. While the "addictive/unwell" person may have tried those harder drugs regardless of whether marijuana even existed. When alcohol wasn't enough they would still have tried the harder things even if marijuana didn't exist, would have just been one less stepping stone. In a world where marijuana didn't exist, would they say alcohol was a gateway drug? Idk, but would bet that they would. To take it even one step further, if alcohol and marijuana both did not exist, those hard drugs still would and even more people would be using them.

 

[Skelletonike]

1st off, people grow, change, move away, move on etc. You may be using marijuana as a scape goat for simply the way life unfolds at times, but I cant tell you how to feel about that.

I do feel however that the 'gateway' argument is fatally flawed. Actually I think if marijuana was legal, it would be LESS of a gateway drug. Think of it this way: why do people not blame alcohol as being a gateway to harsher drugs? Its because alcohol is legal. The person that chooses to drink knows that as long as they aren't drunk in public, driving drunk, etc. that they are in no danger of legal consequences. If you smoke marijuana in a state/country where its illegal, you have now crossed a line into doing something illegal. Its now much easier to move on to something harder, since you're already on that side of the fence. Whereas the person drinking alcohol has not crossed that line. While the "addictive/unwell" person may have tried those harder drugs regardless of whether marijuana even existed. When alcohol wasn't enough they would still have tried the harder things even if marijuana didn't exist, would have just been one less stepping stone. In a world where marijuana didn't exist, would they say alcohol was a gateway drug? Idk, but would bet that they would. To take it even one step further, if alcohol and marijuana both did not exist, those hard drugs still would and even more people would be using them.

In my country while it's a crime to sell drugs, it isn't a crime to consume some lighter drugs such as marijuana (unless you're carrying a lot of it). It's illegal, but it's not a crime.

 

[Benja81]

In my country while it's a crime to sell drugs, it isn't a crime to consume some lighter drugs such as marijuana (unless you're carrying a lot of it). It's illegal, but it's not a crime.

That is about the same as some US states, like mine. Its considered 'decriminalized' so you would get a ticket or misdemeanor, as long as it doesn't appear you are selling it or carrying too much, or growing a magic forest in your backyard lol.

 

[gregory-samba]

I support the legalization for medical purposes. I don't support the legalization for recreational purposes. It always cracks me up to see people harp on others for smoking tobacco, but then go light up a joint. Marijuana is addictive and smoking it is just about as bad as smoking tobacco. I do however support it being consumed orally for people who are suffering from actual medical conditions. It's already legal where I live for medical purposes, but sadly we're already seeing doctors hand out prescriptions like Halloween candy. Marijuana is pretty much just like alcohol or tobacco when you look at how addictive it is and how it's bad for your body if smoked. Just like tobacco marijuana isn't a safe substance. It's a drug. With that said I also don't support putting people in jail for consuming it.

 

[spotanjo3]

Yes and no. I totally support this naturally plant for medicine reason but I do not support it to inhale smoke inside your body system. Surely, it will help ease your pain and disease to reduce but it is not good for your lungs because you still have to inhale smoke into your lung like smoking.

I support this to make into pills or grind it into powder to put in brownie or something like that. its totally healthy and very helpful. That's difference.

 

[spotanjo3]

I've lost friendships to weed.
The case that upset me the most was my cousin, he was, without a doubt, my best friend at the time. We used to hang out all the time during our early to mid teen years, he was a skater and me, well, something along the lines of a punk obsessed with rpg games. We got along great, as time went by though, he started hanging with bad crowds, started smoking weed due to their influence. Well, as time went by our friendship became estranged.

I have lost more than one friend due to them starting weed. Some of them only stick to that and I still get along just fine with them. Others however, moved on to harsher things and our friendship got lost in the way. If they hadn't been introduced to weed, their lives would have been better nowadays. Some of them do not lead decent lives atm.

I am sorry to hear that but look above. Smoking weed is unacceptable but look at my message above again.

Again, sorry about your experience.

 

[Skelletonike]

I am sorry to hear that but look above. Smoking weed is unacceptable but look at my message above again.

Again, sorry about your experience.

Damn, you quoted something I wrote over a year and ago.
Anyway, when the majority of people want marijuana legal, it's not for the medical aspect but rather to smoke it.
It is already used in Portugal for medication and I have no issues when it's for that reason.

 

[FAST6191]

Marijuana is pretty much just like alcohol or tobacco when you look at how addictive it is and how it's bad for your body if smoked.

Addictive.
Is it?
You get an alcohol addict and getting them going cold turkey has serious (as in potentially lethal) physiological effects. Tobacco/nicotine similarly has proper big boy chemical withdrawal, though dying from it (compared to alcohol or opiates) is not really a primary effect.

Weed is addictive in the same sense that sending text messages, working out, having sex or playing world of warcraft is addictive. Which is to say there are people that have made their lives worse by pursuing it too much/to the detriment of other aspects. Making you potentially in a better head space by means of chemical action sees it more likely to become that than looking at drainpipes. Chemically though it has no great withdrawal effects.
Go another as well. What number of users go on to become habitual, never mind addicts with deleterious effects upon their lives in general, users as opposed to at a party once every so often?

As far as damage done that I will question too. Alcohol is way different (even if you inhale it) so I will skip that one for now. Comparing it to tobacco though gets tricky as a lot of people will mix it with such things so finding a control group. Inhaling things in general (up to and including oxygen if you go for higher concentrations than normal air) is tricky.

 

[spotanjo3]

Drinking an alcohol is more healthy than smoking the marijuana. I drink an alcohol responsibly like 1 or 2 a day. It is goos for you. That's not an addictive and I don't have a problem. Some people drink it and drink it some more and more and become an addictive. We are all different.

 

[FAST6191]

Drinking an alcohol is more healthy than smoking the marijuana. I drink an alcohol responsibly like 1 or 2 a day. It is goos for you. That's not an addictive and I don't have a problem. Some people drink it and drink it some more and more and become an addictive. We are all different.

One or two a day.
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/alcohol-support/calculating-alcohol-units/
That could well be above what the guidelines are around here.
As far as good for you. Better than not doing it (this could vary -- stress is something of a killer and if a beer at the weekend sees you relax more than not then net effects and all that)?
On addictive. If you have to have said beer or something to relax at the end of a day then that does not speak to a lack of addiction, to say nothing of you maybe craving it if you decided not to.

That said we do now get to discuss long term effects, dosages and methods of ingestion (high potency skunk in a (long) tobacco frame is a rather different affair to some low THC dried plant).

 

[BlackZero500]

yes i do because of two Main Reasons: First off its a great plant to use as medicine. I know many people who have chronic diseases that cripple them every day. They can live nearly normally with Marijuana.

And second, how can one with an intact mind legalize the most harmful and addictive drug there is (alcohol) and forbid one that does not harm anything exept for making one a bit drowsy at max. Alcohol is the only drug where you can die from getting clean by the way (no i dont mean the secondary effects like suffocating on vomit or something, you can die just because you dont have alcohol if you are addicted) and the addiction never ends. even if you are dry, one drop is enough to get you back. It makes no sense.

But i would regulate it so this whole stoner community will slowly die out. they are obnoxious.