Do you support marijuana legalization?

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  1. Benja81

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    There are currently much worse things that are legal and prescribed like opiates and benzos to treat things like pain and anxiety, depression etc. Those also come with a much higher degree of addiction, not just mental like marijuana, but extremely physical addiction. Due to this they are also prone to causing personal loss, suffering and harm inflicted on others to feed those addictions. Many people have also died by mixing alcohol and opiates/benzos, which has never happened by mixing alcohol and marijuana. While obviously its the exception and not the rule for people to behave like that when taking drugs, it does happen far more often than someone using marijuana alone. While we can argue about whether marijuana is good or not, if we look at the facts, its clearly a much better and less destructive alternative than many other things. I am also NOT saying those things (opiates/benzos) should be illegal, because that would also be short-sided. I know that some medical cases warrant it; but at very least people should have the right to choose marijuana over those other things, without the fear of an antiquated and often racially disproportionate law being inflicted on them.
     
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  2. MythicalData

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    I've heard a lot of people state that marijuana doesn't get you addicted. Now that may be true, but the reason an addiction is a problem is the same reason overindulging/being dependant on anything is a problem.
    Just because the term addicted may get replaced with dependent doesn't change why someone should change what they're doing.
    Also a lot of people are use the term medication/medicating, but unless you have a prescription I really wouldn't consider it medication/ medicating oneself either any more than taking some advil (yeah you're taking said substance, legally, of your own volition, but that doesn't mean you necessarily should be, but you can)
     
  3. FAST6191

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    Dependent has different connotations around here. That is usually for when addiction has gone over and then they can't function without the substance -- I have met alcohol dependents and it is not that they can function having dropped half a bottle of whiskey in the morning but that they have to have said whiskey else they start hallucinating and whatnot. Don't recommend that one.

    Alcohol, nicotine, most of the opiates we know of, caffeine... these are examples of chemically addictive substances. If you introduce them to your body then after a while it will start to crave them and stopping their input causes chemical withdrawal symptoms, potentially extremely serious ones in the case of alcohol and opiates.

    Weed, and a lot of psychedelics, are not what you would call chemically addictive. It is entirely possible to get yourself into a state of mind where using them is so necessary that it is damaging to your general well being (the general list is quite long and something of a guideline more than a hard list but prominent things to feature are things like not eating properly, not drinking properly, not cleaning yourself, not sleeping properly, not socialising, not working, finding yourself compelled to go through pain to do something, becoming agitated if it is not available and acting in a manner that is distressing to yourself or those around you), and chemically they or their common forms may have their own less than ideal effects. It is however a distinction that is made in such circles and one I care to uphold here. In such a regard weed is held as being as addictive as anything else, which is to say not addictive, though one can still be addicted to the action of taking it, the same as one can be addicted to gambling, to texting, to internet, to games, to masturbating, to exercise, to food, to shopping, to money saving... all things that might well benefit from having the relevant medic on hand to guide you through until you regain control and develop a positive relationship with the concept but still not a chemically addictive thing. As far as I am aware it is not any more likely than anything else to lead to that state, and I am willing to hear if people have something to say that is more tricky for those of a certain group, or likely to have other effects (some mention it could induce psychosis in some, or make its onset harsher and sooner, but no idea of hard data on that one) but as far as addiction goes I just said my piece there.
     
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  4. WD_GASTER2

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    thats pretty fair and when you put it that way i agree with you.
     
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    I feel this applies to all drugs. Out of all the thousands of people that die from pharmaceuticals every year, there are millions more using them wothout issue, whether recreationally or medically.
     
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  6. PrimalRex

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    it is legal for prescription

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    Yes, some people are born with genetic variation and its not their fault they have recessive alleles to determine their genes, I for one should think drug use can be of good cause for this but not for druggie stuff.
     
  7. FAST6191

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    Recessive genes have little to do with anything here. Recessive genes are when the trait is only expressed when both parents (we will ignore the 3 genetic parent thing we can now do for now, some aspects of multiple expressions, as well as plants merging together) contribute the relevant gene to their offspring, making it a 1 in 4 chance if both parents are carriers or essentially no chance if they are not (plus the other combinations for both parents being expressed, one parent expressing and the other being carrier). There are plenty of positive or neutral traits associated with recessive genes -- blue eyes for instance is a recessive trait.
     
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    In my own strong opinion the only way a person can get either addicted to or dependent on marijuana is if they suffer from a mental illness of some sort. Meaning some type of "Addictive Personality Disorder" (or otherwise), which in turn means it could be literally ANYthing that the person is addicted to or dependent on. It's a personality/mental trait/disorder/illness causing the addiction/dependence, not the marijuana itself. So I personally do not believe it to be "addictive" in any sense of the word. All based on personal experience of myself and plenty of others. Don't blame it on the weed.
     
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  9. FAST6191

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    Not sure how you would study that -- forcibly inducing/risking addiction being rather unethical and all that. Maybe twin studies.

    That said other than non chemical addiction being a mental illness in and of itself (and the chemical side of things also having a mental component at least exacerbating it) if you get "normal" people, expose them to enough shit then they can quite often latch onto the first thing that gives them a decent endorphin hit.
     
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  10. LoganK93

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    I wonder if Caffeine is seen as just as bad by some of these people. It is actually chemically addictive, can lead to withdrawals, can cause heart attacks, and rot out your stomach.
     
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    On your lap.
    Then change nothing.
     
  12. chrisrlink

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    i changed my mind so much on weed i'd date a pothead or at least a casual user
     
  13. GhostLatte
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    What's with your vendetta against pot?
     
  14. Arecaidian Fox

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    Yes, I absolutely support legalization.
     
  15. Snugglevixen

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    On your lap.
    Because I have seen what it does to people and I'm told it smells horrible.
     
  16. Missingphy

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    im Ok with it being legal for medical purposes only, not for “entertainment”
     
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  17. slaphappygamer

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    Totally support it. 420%! I smoke just about every night. Though, our kids are getting a bit older and I have to watch myself. Sometimes, I do get high and play Kirby on my switch with the oldest one or play board games with both kids. It’s very relaxing.
     
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  18. GhostLatte
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    Alcohol does worse kiddo
     
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  19. chrisrlink

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    simmilar to my vendetta against nintendo i suppose
     
  20. Arecaidian Fox

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    Absolutely agreed. I've firsthand seen some of the worse effects of both.

    Yeah, I'm pretty tired of their complete disdain for the homebrew/modding/TAS communities at large.
     
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