The NZ Shooting

[Viri]

We've started temporarily blocking a number of sites that are hosting footage of Friday’s terrorist attack in Christchurch. We understand this may inconvenience some legitimate users of these sites, but these are extreme circumstances and we feel this is the right thing to do.

— Telstra News (@Telstra_news) March 18, 2019

Perfect time to start blocking sites we deem a nono! I'm sure they're going to block Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter that also shared the video, right?! I sure do love it when a big corporation deems what is okay to look at, and what is not okay to look at.

 

[SG854]

https://twitter.com/Telstra_news/status/1107526963583844353

Perfect time to start blocking sites we deem a nono! I'm sure they're going to block Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter that also shared the video, right?! I sure do love it when a big corporation deems what is okay to look at, and what is not okay to look at.

A bunch of sites are going to step up their censorship and target people on the right, because of the shooting. It’s a bad a idea.

If you wanna create more far right people then blocking them, isolating them, and censoring them is a garanteed way to do it. If they are block from big platforms then they’ll have no where else to go but racist sites and kkk rallies, which will be the only places that accept them. It creates an echo chamber where a bunch of far right people gather, and they’ll go crazier and more extreme because they don’t have any dissenting opinions to challenge their own.

The lady from Westbro Baptist church became less crazy after she has been exposed to the internet, and to different opinions. People can change. But blocking them guarantees that change won’t happen, and will create more far right people.

 

[Viri]

I dunno how I feel about the video. While at the same time, people watching his video, is exactly what the shooter wants, he loves the glory! But, at the same time, I don't like the idea of the gov, and isp telling you what video you should or should not watch.

Arresting people, or telling people they're going to be fined if they have the video is just going to cause a "Streisand effect" though.

 

[Fugelmir]

I dunno how I feel about the video. While at the same time, people watching his video, is exactly what the shooter wants, he loves the glory! But, at the same time, I don't like the idea of the gov, and isp telling you what video you should or should not watch.

Arresting people, or telling people they're going to be fined if they have the video is just going to cause a "Streisand effect" though.

We have a very dishonest mainstream media that we struggle with to get accurate information.

This whole situation was fishy from the getgo. They described him as an Eco terrorist that chose to shoot up a mosque of all places. That certainly isn't the impression the video gives.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

For cases in which there is no doubt about the guilt of a person, mass murderers should not only be killed but even tortured. Simply to prevent copy cats as best as possible. It is simply ridiculous that this monster will be fed and taken care of in a relatively nice prison (New Zealand has nice prisons, I assume).

That being said I'm surprised at how much media and political attention is given to this terror attack.
The 2014 Kunming attack in China was barely mentioned. Numerous articles even mentioned the Uyghurs being slowly replaced by Han-Chinese in their own lands [which is technically China; it would be like Bavarians replacing Sachons in Sachsony] - thereby indirectly giving justification for the attack. 35 people died 143 (!) were injured. The attack did not even take place in the terrorists's homelands (kind of like the New Zealand attack not being committed in Europe).
Can you imagine an article like this?
"White man shoots at people in two mosques. 50 people died. The government calls it a "terrorist attack". There are a lot of tensions between white people and Muslims since the former are slowly replaced due to government policies"
-> Unimaginable, right? Especially right after the attack. Well, I read mainstream articles like this about China.

If you think about it, Islam is a glorified/theologized version of Arab supremacy just as Judaism is Semitism. I guess religions are given a pass.

 

[AsPika2219]

I hate war! And now... 1 person from my country Malaysia was dead by random shooting.... Here the news!

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/c...aysian-missing-in-nz-shooting-confirmed-dead/

Right now, only 3 person was injured and 1 person was dead by shooting attack.

 

[Xzi]

If you wanna create more far right people then blocking them, isolating them, and censoring them is a garanteed way to do it.

Some countries have top-notch mental healthcare treatment facilities, but not nearly enough. In that way we agree. Honestly though, if a person chooses to turn to Nazism of all "solutions" for the problems in their life, they can rot in jail until they get shanked for all I give a fuck. It's a violent ideology, and such violent delights have violent ends. Or "live by the sword, die by the sword" if you prefer a more classical euphemism.

 

[Fugelmir]

I've been seeing some news about the mosque in question being tied to terrorism. If that's true, this would almost be identical in results to a drone strike.

Kill a couple terrorists, scores of innocents consequently become casualties. It'll be very interesting to watch as more details emerge.

 

[Xzi]

I've been seeing some news about the mosque in question being tied to terrorism. If that's true, this would almost be identical in results to a drone strike.

Kill a couple terrorists, scores of innocents consequently become casualties. It'll be very interesting to watch as more details emerge.

This is fucking disgusting. It's like saying, "I've been seeing some news about the children at Sandy Hook being tied to Communism. Totally justifies the murders." Seriously man, have a little goddamn tact and civility. Just a little.

 

[Fugelmir]

This is fucking disgusting. It's like saying, "I've been seeing some news about the children at Sandy Hook being tied to Communism. Totally justifies the murders." Seriously man, have a little goddamn tact and civility. Just a little.

I'm not saying anything justifies anything -- we don't know enough yet. But, if he was a planted agent, it's a very extreme way to accomplish the objective.

 

[Doran754]

Some countries have top-notch mental healthcare treatment facilities, but not nearly enough. In that way we agree. Honestly though, if a person chooses to turn to Nazism of all "solutions" for the problems in their life, they can rot in jail until they get shanked for all I give a fuck. It's a violent ideology, and such violent delights have violent ends. Or "live by the sword, die by the sword" if you prefer a more classical euphemism.

Any chance you're a member of antifa?

 

[Xzi]

Any chance you're a member of antifa?

Nope, just carrying on the great American tradition of Nazi-bashing.

 

[Doran754]

Nope, just carrying on the great American tradition of Nazi-bashing.

Nazi's have been gone a very long time, and to equate people you disagree with politically to jew murdering scum is pretty disrespectful, but that's fine as you probably think you're justified and on the right side of history. I can't quite think who the quote came from but it was something along the lines of If i punch 1000 white people and only 1 is a nazi, It's justified. You sound exactly the same. " I abhor violence and if you disagree I hope you get shanked and die" Sounds reasonable. But hey, you do you.

 

[Xzi]

Nazi's have been gone a very long time, and to equate people you disagree with politically to jew murdering scum is pretty disrespectful, but that's fine as you probably think you're justified and on the right side of history. I can't quite think who the quote came from but it was something along the lines of If i punch 1000 white people and only 1 is a nazi, It's justified. You sound exactly the same. " I abhor violence and if you disagree I hope you get shanked and die" Sounds reasonable. But hey, you do you.

Nazis might be gone, but a neo-Nazi ain't any better. Still ain't got no humanity.

And I'm not one to walk around randomly punching anybody. You pretend like these people aren't happy to identify themselves whenever and wherever they can.

 

[Glyptofane]

Nazis might be gone, but a neo-Nazi ain't any better. Still ain't got no humanity.

And I'm not one to walk around randomly punching anybody. You pretend like these people aren't happy to identify themselves whenever and wherever they can.

It's NEON Nazi now, because no one actually identifies with the term, that's just what you guys and the media call them. Even alt-right is kind of a nebulous term. The current movement focuses on education of lies and crimes of a certain advantaged group and actually disavows violence. Every now and then we get Loony Tunes like this shooter who set the entire movement back. They are not crazed killers like the Democrat created KKK anymore.

You're a cool guy though, Xzi. I like you. Lacius on the other hand threatened to monitor anything I said which offended him and report it to mods.

 

[Viri]

So, I guess this is what it's like to have net neutrality repealed.

 

[Subtle Demise]

It's not this site's fault- The New Zealand police has requested that people don't share the PDF or video.

Is this site hosted in NZ? Did New Zealand take the mantle of world police from US and England? The way I see it, the shooter got what he wanted. Censorship and political division. The same way the terrorists that did 9/11 pretty much ensured the complete erosion of American freedom. Instead of arming ourselves and shooting back, we're letting the terrorists in our own governments and also abroad win.

 

[Xzi]

Is this site hosted in NZ? Did New Zealand take the mantle of world police from US and England? The way I see it, the shooter got what he wanted. Censorship and political division. The same way the terrorists that did 9/11 pretty much ensured the complete erosion of American freedom. Instead of arming ourselves and shooting back, we're letting the terrorists in our own governments and also abroad win.

Eh, I'm all for freedom of speech, but I still don't see how trying to scrub this video as much as possible makes the terrorists "win." Watching people get shot isn't going to provide any new or useful information to anybody.

 

[SG854]

Is this site hosted in NZ? Did New Zealand take the mantle of world police from US and England? The way I see it, the shooter got what he wanted. Censorship and political division. The same way the terrorists that did 9/11 pretty much ensured the complete erosion of American freedom. Instead of arming ourselves and shooting back, we're letting the terrorists in our own governments and also abroad win.

They’rw banning and burning books too. They banned Jordan Peterson’s book. Which is ridiculous because it’s a self help book from a clinical psychologist, but since everyone that disagrees with them is labeled alt right, their stuff gets banned. It’s agree with me or you we’ll censor you. It’s turning to a 1984 Orwellian nightmare.

 

[Xzi]

They’rw banning and burning books too. They banned Jordan Peterson’s book. Which is ridiculous because it’s a self help book from a clinical psychologist, but since everyone that disagrees with them is labeled alt right, their stuff gets banned. It’s agree with me or you we’ll censor you. It’s turning to a 1984 Orwellian nightmare.

It was banned by a single reseller, not the country. So that's a matter of the business' rights, though I know the right-wing hates it when that doesn't play in their favor.