Hacking CONFIRMED: No roadblocks for 7.0.1 Support on SXOS

[Deleted User]

As the accusing party, the burden of proof falls to you. Hopefully before you graduate middle school, you'll learn that hunny <3

there's no point in arguing with someone so brain-dead and infatuated with TX like you

 

[gizmomelb]

there's no point in arguing with someone so brain-dead and infatuated with TX like you

oh but there is endless enjoyment from arguing with TX haters (you're all as devoted and one directional as apple or linux devotees), even more so if Json's news is correct.

 

[ZachyCatGames]

As the accusing party, the burden of proof falls to you. Hopefully before you graduate middle school, you'll learn that hunny <3

Hmm. Well for one this "TX" acts almost identically to how gateway did.

 

[ghjfdtg]

if it is true, there are going to be many people on this forum that will be eating humble pie . how many devs and experts on here said they didn't have the skills. well we should know soon

There is no way to prove they did it themself if it happens. It may just aswell have leaked.

 

[JoeBloggs777]

There is no way to prove they did it themself if it happens. It may just aswell have leaked.

a number of people have posted that only 2 people have the keys.

 

[Lacius]

There is no way to prove they did it themself if it happens. It may just aswell have leaked.

If TX figures a non-sept way to add 7.0.x support, it probably means they broke TSEC. However, there's no reason to think 7.0.x support is coming anytime soon, if ever.

 

[Meepers55]

Any sources that show they aren't gateway?

And again it's quite clear you're trying to move from the original emunand/ipatched topic that we were arguing on

There's no problem with them moving on to a new point. You didn't really provide much backing to your claims, so I probably would've done the same

no, you'd be wanting a TX exploit to be the SAME as SciresM's, so when Nintendo do patch the exploit, there are still other exploits available to use for the future.

No, as I said, I want it to be similar so that Nintendo doesn't patch it. That was literally why Sept was made. TX's method doesn't have to be the same, it just shouldn't give Nintendo enough information to patch it right away. In that regard, each method would be similar.

it's in relation to different exploits available on the Switch, keep up with the conversation. You're not an SX OS owner, so according to Lacius you should not be ''dumb''.

It's not in relation to what I was saying, which was that their method should be similar to Sept. It had nothing to do with ipatched units. If you want to bicker about that with someone, take it up with someone who's referencing those particular switches.

 

[ghjfdtg]

@JoeBloggs777
It still can leak even if just 2 people have access. I'm not sure what's your point.

 

[JoeBloggs777]

@JoeBloggs777
It still can leak even if just 2 people have access. I'm not sure what's your point.

if it's true only 2 people know, I'm guessing the 2 people are SciresM and hexkyz

 

[gizmomelb]

If TX figures a non-sept way to add 7.0.x support, it probably means they broke TSEC. However, there's no reason to think 7.0.x support is coming anytime soon, if ever.

cool, so speculation on yes or no is irrelevant then, I look forward to less shit posting and noise in the forum threads.

 

[ghjfdtg]

If TX figures a non-sept way to add 7.0.x support, it probably means they broke TSEC. However, there's no reason to think 7.0.x support is coming anytime soon, if ever.

I should have clarified it better. Of course i mean if they use the exact same method it's not possible to tell if they found it by themself. They would not be wasting a new one if possible because TSEC vulns are already rare enough.

 

[Rodrigo Mafra]

it's been mentioned many times on here that some people think TX is not the same TX from the good old days.

yet if you believe TX is Gateway then TX must be the same TX from the old days because the GW 3DS card was released in what Aug 2013, getting on for 6yrs ago.

a quick search on here, i found a review post. you could be right, you could substitute Gateway for TX , also looking at the reaction from some of the 'community' to it's release echo's with some peoples view to TX release of SX.

https://gbatemp.net/review/gateway-3ds.79/

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I can, the reason i bought the Sx pro was ease of us and the time it would save compared to using layered Fs.

The TX ppl are referring to as the old days is the TX from Xbox 360 scene, from there to now, TX is completely another.

 

[smf]

but I am glad that there are people on both sides of the discussion as the last thing we need is to allow the subforum to be dominated by any particular viewpoint. Particularly one that is centered around commercial interests.

It would have been better if there wasn't so much trolling, especially when it's based on such thin conjecture. The news is there was a post, arguing whether it's a lie is pointless.

I don't have any issue with an entity making money off a product, but when that product is largely based on the opensource work of a dedicated development community, and when the optics TX are trying to spin is that they have done all the heavy lifting. Where it's not at all obvious to those less tech-oriented users that this is very much so, and in fact skews towards the opposite pole; on the surface (the UI, everything they are interacting with) is TX branded.

You're free to have whatever issue you want. But I fail to see how constant trolling has any benefit.

 

[Lacius]

It would have been better if there wasn't so much trolling, especially when it's based on such thin conjecture. The news is there was a post, arguing whether it's a lie is pointless.



You're free to have whatever issue you want. But I fail to see how constant trolling has any benefit.

Trolling is when someone tries to elicit a negative emotional response out of others. Merely pointing out that this announcement doesn't mean TX is actually coming out with 7.0.x support and that people should be wary isn't trolling.

 

[ombus]

Trolling is when someone tries to elicit a negative emotional response out of others. Merely pointing out that this announcement doesn't mean TX is actually coming out with 7.0.x support and that people should be wary isn't trolling.

The same could be said for emunand for atmosphere

 

[Legend Of Kay]

If TX figures a non-sept way to add 7.0.x support, it probably means they broke TSEC. However, there's no reason to think 7.0.x support is coming anytime soon, if ever.

There’s plenty of reason to think it is. Mainly the devs have said that they are working on it. You have just chosen not to believe them because of your hatred towards TX. You state your opinion as fact and stick your fingers in your ears and sing “la la la la” to block out anyone else’s opinions cause the only one that can be right is you. Quite sad really.

Many people in this thread have claimed that TX won’t use Sept and will drop support completely because it will cost them sales as people will realise that there is other alternatives. Which is true. They will lose sales if they can’t figure out another option besides Sept.

But do you know what will cost them even more in sales? Completely dropping support. Nobody will continue to buy SXOS at all if it doesn’t move past 6.2. But there will still be a percentage of people, most likely lower than now but still there, that purchase SXOS even with Atmosphers Sept at boot because of the simplicity of use.

Not everybody wants to use python scripts to USB install a game, especially when you can simply put the file on a HD and install it on the switch itself. This is just one of the many simpler features of SX that the people who don’t spend large amounts of time on console hacking forums will look for in a CFW.

I believe TX will make the financially smarter decision, which is that if they can not crack 7.0.0+ by themselves, they will bite the bullet and implement sept. But only time will tell.

 

[Lacius]

There’s plenty of reason to think it is. Mainly the devs have said that they are working on it. You have just chosen not to believe them because of your hatred towards TX. You state your opinion as fact and stick your fingers in your ears and sing “la la la la” to block out anyone else’s opinions cause the only one that can be right is you. Quite sad really.

Many people in this thread have claimed that TX won’t use Sept and will drop support completely because it will cost them sales as people will realise that there is other alternatives. Which is true. They will lose sales if they can’t figure out another option besides Sept.

But do you know what will cost them even more in sales? Completely dropping support. Nobody will continue to buy SXOS at all if it doesn’t move past 6.2. But there will still be a percentage of people, most likely lower than now but still there, that purchase SXOS even with Atmosphers Sept at boot because of the simplicity of use.

Not everybody wants to use python scripts to USB install a game, especially when you can simply put the file on a HD and install it on the switch itself. This is just one of the many simpler features of SX that the people who don’t spend large amounts of time on console hacking forums will look for in a CFW.

I believe TX will make the financially smarter decision, which is that if they can not crack 7.0.0+ by themselves, they will bite the bullet and implement sept. But only time will tell.

I've chosen not to take their word for it in part because of their history of making bold claims with no results. That doesn't mean they won't do it, but their word isn't reason enough to accept that they will. Also, please don't put words in my mouth, because I already said after their announcement that I think it's more likely than not that there will be 7.0.x support. Quit being disingenuous.

As for your point about sales, they don't mean much if sales are already unsustainably low. In addition, by your logic, the time they're spending working on 7.0.x would cost them sales, when using a sept-based solution would have mitigated that. The fact that they haven't used sept probably means they have more to lose by acknowledging Atmosphere or that they have nothing to lose by not offering support. Either option is damning.

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The same could be said for emunand for atmosphere

You can see progress on GitHub, and there's no particular roadblock in the way of emuNAND, unlike with 7.0.x support. It's a false analogy.

 

[stephrk398]

more likely than not that there will be 7.0.x support.

Take note TX naysayers. One of your chief correspondents just made a reasonable assumption.

 

[Paulsar99]

3 days since this topic was made and already close to a month of firmware 7.0 still nothing from them. Lol!

 

[Lacius]

Take note TX naysayers. One of your chief correspondents just made a reasonable assumption.

First, I said that at the beginning of the thread. Second, there's a more than reasonable chance that there will never be support for anything higher than 6.2.0 on SX OS. Third, regardless of any of that, nobody should take TX's word for anything, given the nature of their business and their track record.

 

[ombus]

I've chosen not to take their word for it in part because of their history of making bold claims with no results. That doesn't mean they won't do it, but their word isn't reason enough to accept that they will. Also, please don't put words in my mouth, because I already said after their announcement that I think it's more likely than not that there will be 7.0.x support. Quit being disingenuous.

As for your point about sales, they don't mean much if sales are already unsustainably low. In addition, by your logic, the time they're spending working on 7.0.x would cost them sales, when using a sept-based solution would have mitigated that. The fact that they haven't used sept probably means they have more to lose by acknowledging Atmosphere or that they have nothing to lose by not offering support. Either option is damning.

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You can see progress on GitHub, and there's no particular roadblock in the way of emuNAND, unlike with 7.0.x support. It's a false analogy.

From the time it launched its said emunand its in progress... A year.. If people can be normal about emunand for a year.. Then its even more normal for sxos 7.0.1 to take a while.

Keep repeating that sales are low or they are based on ignorance. Atmo is low on users. A lie for a lie.