How do you feel about abortion?

[Deleted-479522]

And now Fragcula is on my ignore list. I am all set with dealing with someone that just wants to troll.

This is a good sign, it indicates that the cognitive dissonance is breaking down in your mind.

When we pent up hate against others like you are with your misogyny the person you are really hurting is yourself. When you hate what others do which is no business of your own what you really hate is what you are doing yourself.

This is the first step on your journey to an open mind. Good luck!

 

[FAST6191]

Read that again... a little slower.
This dude is the result of a failed abortion. Tell me again how it hurts no one... but somehow only injures the mother.

It predominantly injures nobody but the expected medical effects upon the pregnancy carrier. I am sure you can find someone that died as a result of have a tooth filling but it does not seem like a good reason to stop those.

 

[DeadlyFoez]

It predominantly injures nobody but the expected medical effects upon the pregnancy carrier. I am sure you can find someone that died as a result of have a tooth filling but it does not seem like a good reason to stop those.

It kills a child. Whether the child was born yet or not does not matter to me.

What is quite funny is I have heard so many pro-choice people go and start bitching that "Meat is murder" and become vegans. Rather ironic.

 

[FAST6191]

It kills a child. Whether the child was born yet or not does not matter to me.

I can't reach that position through logic. Care to highlight a path?

 

[DeadlyFoez]

I can't reach that position through logic. Care to highlight a path?

When it has a brain and a heartbeat I consider it a human being whether or not it is inside a womb. I am not telling anyone that this is the definition that everyone should follow, but that is my own personal feelings about it.

 

[nashismo]

People pro abortion are a completely lost case. Is like those people that when kids you have to teach them that stealing is BAD, that lying is bad, that killing is bad.

In summary, from what I have been able to tell, there is a tremendous level of autistic population among english speaker, people born without a conscience and without a soul. I mean if you have to explain them why is wrong, there were lost a loooong time ago already.

 

[Deleted User]

it is incorrect

 

[DeadlyFoez]

People pro abortion are a completely lost case. Is like those people that when kids you have to teach them that stealing is BAD, that lying is bad, that killing is bad.

In summary, from what I have been able to tell, there is a tremendous level of autistic population among english speaker, people born without a conscience and without a soul. I mean if you have to explain them why is wrong, there were lost a loooong time ago already.

^^^
The most intelligent thing said in this thread thus far.

... at least for what I have read. I am not going to bother reading 30+ pages of mostly trolls.


But, no need to talk shit about autistic people. I am on that spectrum but I still understand wtf murder is.

 

[Deleted-479522]

It's a shame that even in 2019 much of the world has backwards ass views they inherited from oral tradition that is likely 5000 years old.

Can we get a few hands who self-identifies as having their views influenced by religion?

 

[nashismo]

So here we have undeniable proof that the only argument against even early-term abortion is a religious one, meaning it is automatically unconstitutional for it to be illegal. The first amendment forbids the establishment of a state religion. The United States is not a theocracy and for as long as I'm still alive, it never will be!
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You can shove your amendments up your ass, I am not american and the WORLD is not the USA. We are talking about a universal subject, in the Internet, where people from all around the world talk to each other.

I don't care about your laws and your pathetic stance, is about what is right and what is wrong, as simple as that. And like I said before, if you people have to be taught like little children about it, that means you are lost already and there is no sense speaking to souless dolls without conscience.

 

[Deleted-479522]

You can shove your amendments up your ass, I am not american and the WORLD is not the USA. We are talking about a universal subject, in the Internet, where people from all around the world talk to each other.

I don't care about your laws and your pathetic stance, is about what is right and what is wrong, as simple as that. And like I said before, if you people have to be taught like little children about it, that means you are lost already and there is no sense speaking to souless dolls without conscience.

Where do you get your morals from may I ask?

 

[nashismo]

^^^
The most intelligent thing said in this thread thus far.

... at least for what I have read. I am not going to bother reading 30+ pages of mostly trolls.


But, no need to talk shit about autistic people. I am on that spectrum but I still understand wtf murder is.

I don't think you are autistic, at least from what I know, being autistic means that you are "unable" to understand the suffering of others, and you clearly do understand! Again I am sorry if I said something hurtful, my understanding of things is different, because I am from south america.

Take care and have a great day friend, today there is a Nintendo direct, hope we get some awesome games

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Where do you get your morals from may I ask?

You really don't know? You are born with a CONSCIENCE! I never had to be taught about it! But this life has surprised me, knowing so many people without this basic knowledge, simpathy for another, love in your heart, you have it or you don't, and I was born with that. I pity some people in all honesty.

 

[Deleted-479522]

I don't think you are autistic, at least from what I know, being autistic means that you are "unable" to understand the suffering of others, and you clearly do understand! Again I am sorry if I said something hurtful, my understanding of things is different, because I am from south america.

Take care and have a great day friend, today there is a Nintendo direct, hope we get some awesome games

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You really don't know? You are born with a CONSCIENCE!

God please... really?

I'm sorry I can see from the icon in your profile English is likely not your first language so this is not really meant to be sarcastic. But what are you saying?

Specifically "God please... really?" What does this mean?

If you are born with a conscience then presumably others may have different consciences? What makes your personal one so important? Simple arrogance?

 

[DeadlyFoez]

So here we have undeniable proof that the only argument against even early-term abortion is a religious one

I am agnostic, and I still feel abortion is wrong.

It doesn't bother me one bit if someone uses the morning after pill or plan b pill, but an abortion after the first trimester I feel is definitely murder.

The real funny thing is, if you kill a pregnant woman then most places in the US now considers it that 2 people were murdered and the criminal will have 2 murder charges. The law is finally catching up on what is a human and alive.

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I don't think you are autistic, at least from what I know, being autistic means that you are "unable" to understand the suffering of others, and you clearly do understand! Again I am sorry if I said something hurtful, my understanding of things is different, because I am from south america.

I don't want to get off topic too much here, but as a father on the spectrum with 2, possibly 3 children that are autistic, what you described is not what autism is. What you are describing is a psychopath or sociopath.

And, don't worry. You didn't hurt my feelings. I am not some pansy millenial that needs a safe space.

 

[dimmidice]

I get sick to my stomach hearing about it. If they were like just getting settled then ok, But be safe next time But when you can give birth at any moment or the baby is forming then thats when you look at adoption!

yeah, you do. Because abortion isn't after X weeks (depends a little from place to place) But nowhere (in the western world) can you get a legal abortion when "you can give birth any moment"

 

[Subtle Demise]

You can shove your amendments up your ass, I am not american and the WORLD is not the USA. We are talking about a universal subject, in the Internet, where people from all around the world talk to each other.

I don't care about your laws and your pathetic stance, is about what is right and what is wrong, as simple as that. And like I said before, if you people have to be taught like little children about it, that means you are lost already and there is no sense speaking to souless dolls without conscience.

"Because God/Jesus/Muhammad/etc. said so" is not a valid reasoning for anything. I'm sorry that you don't live in a place where there is freedom of (and from) religion, but I guess those who have never experienced liberty won't ever know what they're missing. Much the same way a person who has never achieved consciousness won't miss that either.

 

[IncredulousP]

I wish I was aborted.

 

[nashismo]

I am agnostic, and I still feel abortion is wrong.

It doesn't bother me one bit if someone uses the morning after pill or plan b pill, but an abortion after the first trimester I feel is definitely murder.

The real funny thing is, if you kill a pregnant woman then most places in the US now considers it that 2 people were murdered and the criminal will have 2 murder charges. The law is finally catching up on what is a human and alive.

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I don't want to get off topic too much here, but as a father on the spectrum with 2, possibly 3 children that are autistic, what you described is not what autism is. What you are describing is a psychopath or sociopath.

And, don't worry. You didn't hurt my feelings. I am not some pansy millenial that needs a safe space.

Ah ok, I was completely wrong then, had no idea. And I was saying I was sorry but not because of being politically correct, it was because a TRULY feel like doing it!

I am sorry for being an ignorant, and I am glad that autism is not what I thought it was (here we don't see those cases very often at all, that's why I was ignorant about it I think).

Ok then, I am thankful to know people like you, I dont have to ask more things, I know you are a great person in my heart.

 

[Subtle Demise]

The real funny thing is, if you kill a pregnant woman then most places in the US now considers it that 2 people were murdered and the criminal will have 2 murder charges. The law is finally catching up on what is a human and alive.

Using US law as a measuring stick for morality is troublesome at best.

 

[Deleted-479522]

Reading through this entire 30+ page thread I've made an interesting discovering in the trends.

There are definitely 3 groups of people who oppose abortion

1. Those that probably rarely have sex, if at all or are not in a stable relationship. i.e. People who subconsciously fear knocking a girl up will be the only way they will get to reproduce.
2. Those that are opposed to abortion because it's easy to be. i.e. Likely those who could never understand the need -- mostly men, or those without many children and likely living in a socialist state where they will receive benefits.
3. Those who have never thought for themselves and inherited cultural/religious views.

But the real issue here is that most of those want to IMPOSE their view on others. That is disgraceful. Understandable if you come from a authoritarian state (it's all you know) but otherwise you need to read about libertarianism.