We got a glimpse of some new information about Nintendo's Switch Online Service yesterday during the Direct, but most of what was shown there was already known. To help shed a little more light on just what a subscription entails, Nintendo put a FAQ up on their site. The details are as follows:

• As already stated before the Direct, all Switch users (used to be only launch users) can get a 7 day free trial. This gives you access to online, voice chat, cloud saves, and the NES games.
• Those two wireless NES controllers are only purchasable if you have a current paid Nintendo Switch Online sub.
• The full list of 20 playable NES games for subscribers was revealed: Soccer, Tennis, Donkey Kong, Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 1 and 3, Balloon Fight, Ice Climber, Dr. Mario, The Legend of Zelda, Double Dragon, River City Ransom, Ghost's N Goblins, Tecmo Bowl, Gradius, Pro Wrestling, Excitebike, Yoshi, Ice Hockey, and Baseball.
• Each month, a new set of games will be added to the group.
• October will add NES Open Golf, Solomon's Key, and Super Dodge Ball
• November additions are Mighty Bomb Jack, Twinbee, and Metroid.
• December brings Wario's Woods, Adventures of Lolo, and Ninja Gaiden.
• Additionally, if you ever lapse in your subscription, you will lose all cloud data. "Save data stored with Save Data Cloud cannot be kept outside of the duration of your Nintendo Switch Online membership." If you cancel or let it expire, you'll lose all data saved on the cloud.
• If you play the NES games, you need to check in every 7 days by going online to verify your account.

Source: Nintendo UK
Source: Nintendo of America

 

[DinohScene]

Saved games get deleted once subscription ends?
Oh wow...

 

[Justinde75]

I guess you could just make sure your saves are backed up before you decide to cancel it/before it runs out.

 

[Deleted member 331788]

For a portable that plays well and has online 20 dollars a year is chump change. Its literally nothing at all.

Congrats ...so your buying everyone on here a subscription? ...since like $20 is nothing to you ...how about 1 member a week?? ...I don't want to push it, but if it's still nothing to you 2 members a week??

For a portable "nice" the switch should be like the 3DS online service ...free!

But it should come with the cost of the price of the game ...I pirate switch games and buy used games "yeah I go all out" - I like to support the stores who sell them instead of the companies who make them! ...because of crap like this!

 

[the_randomizer]

I guess we'll see next week.

Cloud saves are 100% free on Xbox One (and games for Windows 10)

Anyways, then let's look at PS+ (as you only get local save backups for free, cloud backups are not free). If you decide not to resub, your backups are not lost.

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This is why we need local save backups, something other platforms offer.

Exactly, cloud saves are nice, but they aren't without major flaws, people sure are quick to defend it.

 

[osaka35]

True that but ir's the same now with Nintendo but they only use p2p while Sony and Microsoft basically say "" subscribe to us and we promise all our first party titles will have dedicated servers " So that's the big difference. Thing is you also get newer games while nintendo only offers games that are over 30 years old. And be honest, nobody pays 60 a year but more like 35 40 a year through 3th party websites. And you also get real voice chat, party invites, message system and voice messages plus more apps to use and a real friend invite system instead of using friend codes like we went back in time 20 years

I don't think you can count discounts but yeah, even at 1/3rd of the price, it does seem really lack luster. I'll probably wait until they offer something meaningful. I don't care much about voice chat or party invites, but I know they're pretty popular with most folk.

I suspect it'll do well as long as it "just works".

 

[KingVamp]

Cod has dedicated servers, overwatch has dedicated servers, battlefield has dedicated servers, halo has dedicated servers, destiny has dedicated servers, the division has dedicated servers, every mmo mmorpg has dedicated servers. Basically saying almost every multiplayer game these days has dedicated servers

Not going verify those, because it was a stupid separation on my part. AFAIK, PC doesn't pay for dedicated servers either. (Unless they are a non-ftp mmo.)

 

[limpbiz411]

why does Nintendo have to be so cringe worthy when it comes to online infrastructure? They made my decision on hacking my switch really easy on me. Much more worth it to have a hacked switch then online when it comes to Nintendo. Friend codes still? and that stupid phone app? Nintendo has gotten straight greedy lately and don't care about us as a consumer except for our wallets.

 

[DarkIrata]

huh ok. still gonna buy it. Still interesting concept

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I like to support the stores who sell them instead of the companies who make them! ...because of crap like this!

????

Yeah, you're sure showing them

 

[ferret7463]

nope, i'll just keep my 3DS . Online services tend to suck due to the fact after about 5 years, they just quite support and you're out of luck.... Also it has become clear why Nintendo attacked the rom sites so hard recently.....

 

[deinonychus71]

For the first time I might actually vote with my wallet and not pay for this subscription.

Nintendo has amazing IPs, amazing devs, but their corporate should really be let go. They're -insanely- outdated in just about everything they do.

Really, how did Steam beat piracy on PC? By being MORE convenient than playing pirated games. All social features, integration, achievements and all.
Same for PSN/XBOX, if you pirate, you're actually missing out by not having online features.

This? This is basically that annoying video that you're forced to watch when you buy a movie and that says "Hey thank you for buying our product, but remember stealing is bad".
Jeez. Nintendo, you're never gonna beat piracy by forcing such inconvenience on your customers.

 

[PedroKeitawa]

Additionally, if you ever lapse in your subscription, you will lose all cloud data. "Save data stored with Save Data Cloud cannot be kept outside of the duration of your Nintendo Switch Online membership." If you cancel or let it expire, you'll lose all data saved on the cloud.

Ok since im not so savi about PS4 and is amazing Plus (not joking i really like their online program)...how much time Sony give you before they remove your cloud save data from the server after your registration expire?

I hope that a software solution, not necessarly free (since i have no problem in buy a usb cable), for mod the console will come. Beocuse i know if i inser that paper clip in the wrong place my Switch is gone. Speaking of this rapidly the R4 solution is any good?

EDIT: Also regarding the list of NES games....no Baseball. Nintendo what the actual hell?!?

 

[Supster131]

Ok since im not so savi about PS4 and is amazing Plus (not joking i really like their online program)...how much time Sony give you before they remove your cloud save data from the server after your registration expire?

There's no real concrete answer. It apparently used to be 6 months back in the PS3 days, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I was unsubbed for over a year and my cloud saves were still there when I resubbed.
https://support.us.playstation.com/articles/en_US/KC_Article/PS-Plus-Information

I guess we'd need someone to sub to PS+, upload a save to the cloud, then stay unsubbed until if/when the save is deleted from the cloud.

 

[PedroKeitawa]

There's no real concrete answer. It apparently used to be 6 months back in the PS3 days, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I was unsubbed for over a year and my cloud saves were still there when I resubbed.
https://support.us.playstation.com/articles/en_US/KC_Article/PS-Plus-Information

I guess we'd need someone to sub to PS+, upload a save to the cloud, then stay unsubbed until if/when the save is deleted from the cloud.

Wow. Well time to spedn 60€ for re apply to the PS+ then. Thank you Sony.

 

[the_randomizer]

Saved games get deleted once subscription ends?
Oh wow...

Yeah, it's pretty shitty on their part, cloud saves be damned, it's better to back them up to an actual HDD or SD card.

 

[LightyKD]

Don't give Nintendo a cent, and put those $20 dollars into supporting something like Yuzu or whatever Switch emulator is in development.
I can guarantee you 100% that the online service the emulator will have will be an infinite amount of times better than what Nintendo's shit is.

If we could a better setup for Wiimfi that includes a miiverse style site and proper connectivity with the many Nintendo emulators, I would toss money at that. Been thinking a lot about that idea.

 

[Euphonique]

As I said in another Thread: The price is fair but thats not the problem. What people upset is the poor service we‘ll get. Come on: The miiverse was even better than that! We don‘t have any community functions, no chat, no voip on the console, no webbrowser, no other apps like Netflix, Youtube.. etc.
I wonder WHY I should pay for it.. For a handful games with online play?
And yes: The savegame backup in the cloud should be free, too.
Nintendo should do their homework and deliver a good online service BEFORE asking for money.
It‘s a pity.. It could be so much better than that. If I heard about the services we‘ll get I thought: Really?! Thats it?!

 

[kumikochan]

As I said in another Thread: The price is fair but thats not the problem. What people upset is the poor service we‘ll get. Come on: The miiverse was even better than that! We don‘t have any community functions, no chat, no voip on the console, no webbrowser, no other apps like Netflix, Youtube.. etc.
I wonder WHY I should pay for it.. For a handful games with online play?
And yes: The savegame backup in the cloud should be free, too.
Nintendo should do their homework and deliver a good online service BEFORE asking for money.
It‘s a pity.. It could be so much better than that. If I heard about the services we‘ll get I thought: Really?! Thats it?!

Well that's Nintendo. They usally rely on their name, branding and nostalgia and Fanboys to pull them through all the bullshit and make them money. Sadly they always succeed so they keep doing crap like this. It's like they always get a free pass for no reason at all while others have to defend themselves for the smallest things. Nintendo is like eminem, you just can't bash them

 

[Supster131]

Well that's Nintendo. They usally rely on their name, branding and nostalgia and Fanboys to pull them through all the bullshit and make them money. Sadly they always succeed so they keep doing crap like this. It's like they always get a free pass for no reason at all while others have to defend themselves for the smallest things. Nintendo is like eminem, you just can't bash them

This is exactly what I was thinking. Why does Nintendo get a free pass? Before the Xbox One launch, Microsoft was announcing some very anti-consumer stuff. Did people let them get away with it? Hell no. They fought back and spoke with their wallets. Look at Microsoft now. I'd say they are currently the most consumer-friendly of the three. Do people not want the same with Nintendo?

 

[Euphonique]

Well that's Nintendo. They usally rely on their name, branding and nostalgia and Fanboys to pull them through all the bullshit and make them money. Sadly they always succeed so they keep doing crap like this. It's like they always get a free pass for no reason at all while others have to defend themselves for the smallest things. Nintendo is like eminem, you just can't bash them

I agree. Don‘t get me wrong: I like Nintendo for the games they make.. But online services are not their strength. Sometimes I think a community member whould do better decisions in making such a service as the nintendo managers. It seems they don‘t even hear what their fans want or the simply ignore them.