Nintendo gives more details about its online service, cloud saves get deleted if you cancel your sub

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  1. the_randomizer

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    Even worse is that there are a lot of sycophants and enablers out there for this.
     
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  2. Xzi

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    Yeah, it was the XB360 generation that sealed our fate. If only Sony had used more standardized hardware in the PS3, then maybe it wouldn't have been so overpriced and people would've flocked to the free online.
     
  3. the_randomizer

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    I'm just, ugh, gonna try out the trial period at least and make my judgment then.
     
  4. Huntereb

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    I buy products that are equal the value I offer for them, not "Just because that's how it is". If people work together in capitalism, corporations can be forced to create and do what we want. Eg; not settling for dogshit because "Well, that's how it is so oh well!".
     
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    Well, I mean, I'm glad that I don't have to pay for VC-like games, now, whether or not we can keep them "forever" without being forced to delete them or lose them, that may mitigate my doubts.
     
  6. Xzi

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    Certainly I'm not suggesting anybody buy it who doesn't see the value in it, but from my point of view the cost is justified when comparing it to the competition. Particularly if there are any Nintendo IPs you like to play online regularly. Smash has been my favorite fighting series since N64, so playing Ultimate online is essentially a must for me.

    It's fine if you don't see the same value in it that I do, but pretending a boycott would do anything at this point is fairly naive. Paid online for Nintendo was inevitable the second people started paying for PSN without much fuss.
     
  7. Skeet1983

    Skeet1983 GBAtemp Psycho!

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    Um, I don't think we can keep the games forever. If you are talking about the NES games that come with Nintendo Online. Here is what I read, according to nintendolife.com:

    What happens to the NES games if I cancel my subscription?
    As far as we understand it, you can only play these NES games as long as you have an active subscription. The moment your subscription ends, you'll lose access to them.

    Even active subscribers will have to "check in" with their console online once per week or they'll lose the ability to play them. This allows Nintendo to verify that you have an active subscription.

    Personally, I think this sucks. :(
     
  8. the_randomizer

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    Indeed, I hope someone someday cracks the DRM and allows us to keep them forever.
     
  9. FAST6191

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    You seem very fatalistic. I am not sure that is a good thing. I am certainly not inclined to roll over and take it, particularly not with something so blatantly a cash grab.
     
  10. Xzi

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    Not really, it's not as though I'd tolerate year over year price increases or something like that. As I've said, people can determine the value of the individual online services for themselves, but that's often going to be limited to the one console/platform they own. Not a lot of people (on consoles) will pass on all of these services and stick to offline-only, but that's always an option too. Just don't expect it to be enough to make capitalism suddenly change course.
     
  11. FAST6191

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    People not buying a product has made people rethink things before.

    Anyway I am struggling to the value in paying for things which have demonstrably been able to be done for free for decades, something which is only getting cheaper and easier to run and what miniscule costs there are able to be spread out over more users too. They try to offer a few enticements but it is things we have seen before done better by them and by those messing around in their free time, or again done not only for free but actually considered basic functionality in the past.

    To open my wallet you have to offer me something, and not just a product of your walled garden that I am already trapped in. To keep being told I am just being cheap rankles somewhat, especially when those doing it seem to be ignoring that something is infinitely more than nothing. It would almost be easier to swallow if someone told me it was a charitable action that I am doing (or not doing as the case may be).
     
  12. Xzi

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    That's largely the same argument that's been made against any paid console online subscription since XBL. It hasn't stopped it from growing and subsequently spreading to the competition. I don't mind at all if Switch online has a low adopt rate, because that would push Nintendo to offer more benefits. I don't believe they'll re-think the whole subscription service, though.
     
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