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This is true all over the world. It hardly justifies "fixing" (a word that does not represent what it actually is) a dog at 4 months when the consequences on his natural development are horrendous.Wow, I've got a comment for everyone. We fix our pets because the population of stray animals is nearly out of control. The quality of life for these animals is horrendous.
What the fuckAnd babies don't have human rights, they're property.
What the fuck?You know very well that is not the same. Getting circumcision is comparable to getting your wisdom teeth removed when they first come out. Getting your ears pierced. Not removal of organs.
Legally speaking that's actually how things are, if under age of consent for a certain thing, you are treated as your parents'/guardian's property and they have full legal power to make you do what they want.What the fuck
"Legal" power, yes. Doesn't mean that they can just abuse you. Also, he said "especially in the law", so he must think that babies don't have human rights, period. That's sickening.Legally speaking that's actually how things are, if under age of consent for a certain thing, you are treated as your parents'/guardian's property and they have full legal power to make you do what they want.
You are confusing morally and legaly acceptable... In an earlier post before all this blew up I said that what I think is best is to wait until 14-16 to see if it's NECESSARY to circumcise, that doesn't go for just boys but girls too (there are rare cases where it's important to do it to girls if there's a health risk involved)."Legal" power, yes. Doesn't mean that they can just abuse you. Also, he said "especially in the law", so he must think that babies don't have human rights, period. That's sickening.
Do you think that female genital mutilation is fine in certain Arab countries just because it's legal?

You know why you have to wait till 18? Because before that, you're legally property. I'm not saying its necessarily right, I'm just saying that's how it is. A baby can't protest vaccines, corrective cleft pallet surgery, etc. But we do it anyway. Its not a because we want to torture children, its because we do what we believe is in their best interest. You may not like if I choose to have a son and get him circumcised, but.. He's my property, not yours.What the fuck
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What the fuck?
Would you ever pierce the ears of your infant son?
If you really want to chop off a piece of your body to "keep it clean" because you don't feel like washing your dick in the morning it's fine. But please, PLEASE leave the kids alone. You can chop any part of your own body when you turn 18.


barelyRemoval of the foreskin helps to prevent infection,
true . . . but your leg would be easier to clean without that pesky foot with all those toeseasier to keep clean.
property like my tshirt . . . i can set my tshirt on fire and not break any laws . . . yeah! . . . not propertyAnd babies don't have human rights, they're property. Especially from a legal standpoint.
not quite as the clitoris is the part with the most nerve endings as is the foreskin not the headFemale circumcision is often having the clitoris removed. It would be the equivalent of having the head of your penis removed completely

barely
true . . . but your leg would be easier to clean without that pesky foot with all those toes
property like my tshirt . . . i can set my tshirt on fire and not break any laws . . . yeah! . . . not property
not quite as the clitoris is the part with the most nerve endings as is the foreskin not the head
When something is your property, it doesn't mean no laws are applied to it, they just happen to be more specific. For example, setting fire to your house or demolishing it IS illegal even if it's YOUR property and there are no people or buildings around and same goes for wanting to build something on a plot of land. It's all case by case and while babies/kids are basically your property, there are laws specifying some things you can and can't do.property like my tshirt . . . i can set my tshirt on fire and not break any laws . . . yeah! . . . not property
About the nerve endings, in males, the most nerve endings are at right under the head (as it's the same part that becomes the clitoris when it's still unborn and is instead a girl).My house is my property, but I'm pretty sure its illegal for me to set that on fire.
I'm not so sure the nerve ending thing is true..

Actually no, you don't have custody of your house, it's your property, but you still can't burn it down. Also, you BOTH have custody over your kids AND they are legally your property.. . . no you two confuse property with custody
Someone just needs to hit the nuke again and give us all 502-504 errors to end this for now because I agree it's gotten way to agenda-driven at this point...See how weird this site has become!!!! Why are threads like this even allowed??? Look at the vitriol being flung about and absolutely nonsensical garbage being propagated in this thread not to mention other socio/political agenda topics!!!!
Can A MOD PLEASE DELETE MY ACCOUNT COMPLETELY I"M OUT!

ok you own a house have no ares nor a will . . . and you die . . . what happens to said house . . . ownership of any and everything is only temporary . . . a more realistic example i own a house but dont pay taxes on it guess what happens to the house i own . . . you guessed it it gets taken from me so yeah its illegal to burn the house you own as you dont truly own itActually no, you don't have custody of your house, it's your property,
if this were true then your kids would not be able to open a civil suite ageist you but guess what they can doAlso, you BOTH have custody over your kids AND they are legally your property.


What negative affects does it have getting your dog or cat neutered? I honestly don't know much about it.Not surprised, Americans (in regard of the law) also think it's ok to torture cats and dogs to remove their claws and have no understanding of how badly it will affect their life to castrate them at the age of 4 months (mandatory in LA), while pretending it will improve their lifespan and reduce their aggressiveness.
