Hacking Would you like to see no piracy this time?

[Stercate79]

yes

 

[thekarter104]

Inb4 pirating the game, but purchase in-game loot boxes etc. Kappa

 

[smf]

I dare anyone who is against piracy to come up with factual, empirical evidence (not made up crap, actual sources that can be cited) that states piracy has killed game and console sales. I'll be waiting. And no,
the Dreamcast doesn't count because that was Sega's own undoing.

It seems that you have made up your mind and will disregard any evidence as not empirical.

DS flashcarts certainly hit sales.

 

[the_randomizer]

It seems that you have made up your mind and will disregard any evidence as not empirical.

DS flashcarts certainly hit sales.

But they haven't killed consoles, there's no evidence to that, is there? Didn't think so. DS sold over 100 million units, same with Wii, PS2, PSP, etc, so..... People who hate piracy
should just leave those who do pirate alone, is that so much to ask for instead of having them shove their agenda's down their orifices?

 

[FliP0x]

Imagine having a fully open system and not use it to run backups.. what a waste.

 

[Ridge]

I would really really REALLY like if piracy didn't happen for another two or three years on the Switch but that's just extremely wishful thinking at this point.

 

[Fluffball]

generally costs more for developers to make games on consoles for this reason

The majority of game development these days are on engines built with priority of porting to multiple platforms (ue4,unity ect) so i don't think that's really the case anymore.

It's not like the 'old' days when developers had to build different engines or change a significant amount of base code to get games running on different platforms (x86 on the pc to powerpc on the last gen for example,or x86-xbox,to powerpc-gamecube,to RISC-ps2 ) ,developers came out at the beginning of the switch unveil to praise nintendo for the ease of development on the new system,a testament to this is the swathe of indie titles we have seen on the system,we're probably talking about weeks of work here rather than months.

At the end of the day if a developer upon this news didn't commit to switch then they are only loosing out.

 

[Deleted User]

I really don't like piracy. I've bought the most games i have but i also pirated some games because i'm a teen and as a teen you don't have much options to make money. Currently I only earn money by repairing broken 3ds. I make about 30 € per device. That sounds much but I only get about 2 devices per month. I can just buy a controller from my monthly income :|

 

[mightymuffy]

Are you good enough of a person that you could wish for something like this? I know I am.

Jesus H, I thought I was on Facebook for a second there...
If piracy comes and you don't want it, then don't pirate! Then you can feel all smug with yourself and brag about it (but just do the bragging on the inside, just in your head... )

 

[smf]

But they haven't killed consoles, there's no evidence to that, is there?

You said "that states piracy has killed game and console sales"

piracy has increased console sales and decreased game sales. Not to zero, even dreamcast didn't go to zero. People still bought them when they were selling off inventory.

But piracy certainly affects sales and it doesn't have to decrease it by much before it's no longer economically viable.

I know people who went from buying a couple of DS games a year to no DS games a year when they got a flash cart. They even increased the number of DS they had.

 

[deinonychus71]

Imo there are morally sound reasons to pirate games. If you dont support a scummy company for moral reasons and dont want to fund the game, but still want to play it, then no one is harmed in pirating it rather than just not playing the game. Or as I said earlier I feel morally justified in pirating Nioh.

Meh. Today we're living a witch hunt where every single reason no matter how small is good enough to jump at a company throat (ex with the guild wars 2 fake news that nobody cared about double checking and was way too happy to bitch about the company).

If you're gonna pirate fine, but dont try to hide it behind a boycott while still enjoying their games. It really feels... dishonest... to me.

 

[the_randomizer]

You said "that states piracy has killed game and console sales"

piracy has increased console sales and decreased game sales. Not to zero, even dreamcast didn't go to zero. People still bought them when they were selling off inventory.

But piracy certainly affects sales and it doesn't have to decrease it by much before it's no longer economically viable.

I know people who went from buying a couple of DS games a year to no DS games a year when they got a flash cart. They even increased the number of DS they had.

And if people decide to pirate games, who are people to bitch and moan instead of just let them do whatever they please? Is that too much to ask for? Unless people actually work for the
companies in question, what people do in their private lives is none of their business.

 

[silvershadow]

i wish there was some way to have a digital copy of everygame that you bought physical.

I hate buying digital games as it feels like there will be a day in the future where i would not be able to play certain games anymore if nintendo servers go down. With a physical game, "you are supposed to have that security that you own this game and can play it completely offline at anytime regardless of how many decades went by". I used my wording carefully, because i know the times have changed a bit where u buy a physical game but inorder to play it, you have to do a massive download, or you cant play a game until its updated..etc..

I do however, like the fact of having my whole library with me without the need to risking damaging physical ports or damaging cartridges (or just carrying cartridges around).

Would be nice if there was a way where a physical game is permanently locked to your console and it allows you to copy it to the memory card and run it digital. but i dont think that will ever be possible because there will be people that will complain about "reselling games"

Who would stop you from borrowing a game, and copying it to ur console. it feels like this is just one of those areas you cant control perfectly.

I care about the piracy in the first place. I'm the one who could affort the games, but would rather download them for free instead, so I can spend my money on things that I can't get for free.

on the other hand, i feel like this sometimes too. i just fear for the system since people always say: "piracy kills a system". but i understand thats not directly true.

The way i see it in the end is: if there is no way to get a digital copy of a game for free, then depending on how bad said person wants the game, they would resort to "equally illegal" methods of obtaining a physical copy "for free".

 

[KingBlank]

I don't care about switch games quite enough to buy them, I'm mainly a PC gamer and will spend most of my money there.

 

[MasterJ360]

I find it a bit hypocritical to how some ppl white knight towards piracy, however they are already breaking the TOS of by having CFW/Homebrew on their system.
I know they aren't the same, but they both upset Nintendo or any game company for that matter. You don't like piracy, but your ok with breaking their terms and not supporting the service they provide by using homebrew.
The problem is ppl don't realize homebrew is bad for the game company just as Piracy

 

[smf]

And if people decide to pirate games, who are people to bitch and moan instead of just let them do whatever they please? Is that too much to ask for? Unless people actually work for the
companies in question, what people do in their private lives is none of their business.

That is a different argument.

It should be like if you see someone being attacked. It's not you being beaten up, so you shouldn't care & just walk on by.

 

[KingBlank]

I find it a bit hypocritical to how some ppl white knight towards piracy, however they are already breaking the TOS of by having CFW/Homebrew on their system.
I know they aren't the same, but they both upset Nintendo or any game company for that matter. You don't like piracy, but your ok with breaking their terms and not supporting the service they provide by using homebrew.
The problem is ppl don't realize homebrew is bad for the game company just as Piracy

Just as bad - so it also positively effects sales numbers of systems?

 

[smf]

Just as bad - so it also positively effects sales numbers of systems?

Increasing the number of systems, without a corresponding increase in game sales is not good https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-06-15-xbox-one-x-selling-at-a-loss

 

[the_randomizer]

That is a different argument.

It should be like if you see someone being attacked. It's not you being beaten up, so you shouldn't care & just walk on by.

Did I stutter? Who cares if someone pirates or not, don't like it, too freaking bad, deal with it. Save that for Reddit. If you don't work for Nintendo, Sony, etc, whatever, then why should I subjugate myself to the whims of
anti-piracy arguments? People are going to pirate no matter what others say, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop people from choosing to do what they will do.

If an old game is not available through any other locales like eBay, why should I give my money to some greedy scalpers?

 

[MasterJ360]

Just as bad - so it also positively effects sales numbers of systems?

Im not regarding that to sales. Im saying homebrew doesn't exactly have a warm welcoming home to a company. If ppl are going to white knight on morals between right and wrong
they should be on the "right" side of things 100% by means not installing 3rd party software breaking the rules of companies they want us to support....