Hacking Error Code 002-0102, Have I been banned?

[Fire_Slasher]

Seems like a big deal, will be following this thread for more info!

 

[itsamario2015]

fyi just because something is in the TOS doesn't mean it's legal(ly binding). Generally speaking.

Nobody asserted as much.

 

[serenade.63]

Would nintendo be able to tell if you were using cia's that you packaged from 3ds roms online, since it uses your system header instead of a public header like a 3dz?

 

[Searinox]

No, but they could easily check your eshop account to see if you actually purchased the titles you're running as CIA.

 

[Grumbled]

You should really read the TOS. Nintendo even stated day 1 if they want to they can brick your console. You are at a loss champ.

I have read their EULA, their Eshop Terms and Conditions, and their network agreement none of these agreements are extremely long so there is not that much to them. Nintendo can't legally killswitch your console (even if their terms said they could they still couldn't). Even trying to softbrick products sold to consumers has been a legal hotspot for companies in the past.

Whoever brought Steam in this is arguing the opposite, because steam works the same way. The only way you lose access to your games is for money related issues such as fraud.

Cheating or using keys from other regions only gets you VAC banned or banned from steam servers. Also that single key can be revoked.

Regardless, that's all irrelevant as all I'm trying to do is point out that an NNID ban would be pointless.

 

[itsamario2015]

Has anyone that was banned on an unlinked emunand attempted wiping / upgrading a new emunand and testing online again?

 

[Deleted-355425]

I have read their EULA, their Eshop Terms and Conditions, and their network agreement none of these agreements are extremely long so there is not that much to them. Nintendo can't legally killswitch your console (even if their terms said they could they still couldn't). Even trying to softbrick products sold to consumers has been a legal hotspot for companies in the past.

Whoever brought Steam in this is arguing the opposite, because steam works the same way. The only way you lose access to your games is for money related issues such as fraud.

Cheating or using keys from other regions only gets you VAC banned or banned from steam servers. Also that single key can be revoked.

Regardless, that's all irrelevant as all I'm trying to do is point out that an NNID ban would be pointless.

ignore the ignorant people on here, keep up the research

 

[MonMonz]

Has anyone that was banned on an unlinked emunand attempted wiping / upgrading a new emunand and testing online again?

i think that would solve the problem..idk if it's strange or not but i noticed that when i formatted my emunand my FC changed so i think formatting it might solve the problem..we need someone to test this !

 

[Grumbled]

One more thing I'd like to add, this is probably obvious to some people but I hadn't used these features before:
Systems like local/infrared wireless in games like Pokemon and Super Smash (I don't know about others) still work for me because they don't require me to access the Nintendo Network.

Honestly the lag was too bad for me to play Smash over network anyways, so this really doesn't bother me very much.

 

[C00kies0fD00m]

Well its always a Cat and Mouse game with NOA and the like. I just hope they're not keeping some log file with headers offline and then the minute you connect to the network it autobans you. They might also be able to implement a black list sometime in the future of known public headers.

 

[LoneGrenade]

Has anyone been banned yet for legit cart usage online on emuNAND?

 

[aliak11]

I have fixed a lot of bugs in my Header Editor, here is the source if anyone wants it. https://github.com/Aliak/3ds-Rom-Editor

 

[2skies]

What about people who run .cias from out-of-region? I play a EUR Fantasy Life online (NA console), so far so good, but who knows! I don't think .cia folks have anything to worry about, but I don't know for 110% certainty.

 

[YourHero]

I have read their EULA, their Eshop Terms and Conditions, and their network agreement none of these agreements are extremely long so there is not that much to them. Nintendo can't legally killswitch your console (even if their terms said they could they still couldn't). Even trying to softbrick products sold to consumers has been a legal hotspot for companies in the past.

Whoever brought Steam in this is arguing the opposite, because steam works the same way. The only way you lose access to your games is for money related issues such as fraud.

Cheating or using keys from other regions only gets you VAC banned or banned from steam servers. Also that single key can be revoked.

Regardless, that's all irrelevant as all I'm trying to do is point out that an NNID ban would be pointless.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/10/nintendo-can-remotely-brick-your-3ds-after-flash-card-use/

Bad news for those that plan on using a flash card with their 3DS -- if Nintendo detects that you've been dabbing with one, the company might send a firmware update that could possibly brick your system.

Basically they could send an update, detect flash carts, and body your 3DS free.

 

[Atross]

Tl;dr, anyone know if there's just a bug or a true ban wave ?

 

[YourHero]

Tl;dr, anyone know if there's just a bug or a true ban wave ?

No one knows. If anything this is a beta test on catching piracy.


I miss the day of dreamcast game burning.

 

[Xzi]

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/10/nintendo-can-remotely-brick-your-3ds-after-flash-card-use/

Basically they could send an update, detect flash carts, and body your 3DS free.

This was the panic when people were first reading Nintendo's ToS/EULA for the 3DS. That's why the article is from 2011. They'd never brick your system themselves, they just need to include that terminology so that if you end up bricking it with a flash cart they are not liable.

 

[tNB]

I have played a lot of online games in .cia format.

No ban so far, can still go online with my .cia format games.

Not gonna try going online with .3ds roms ^^

 

[Apache Thunder]

That article is over 3 years old and was based on a misinterpretation of the ToS Nintendo had for the 3DS at the time. Remotely bricking systems is a legal grey area in the USA and perhaps outright illegal in other countries. I doubt Nintendo would purposely do that. They just include that in their ToS, so that those who brick their 3DS using "unauthorized devices" (like for example when my dumbass bricked my 3DS trying to update sysnand with a Super Smash Bros. rom. ), they can't be sued for it.

 

[Grumbled]

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/10/nintendo-can-remotely-brick-your-3ds-after-flash-card-use/



Basically they could send an update, detect flash carts, and body your 3DS free.

Of course they have the capacity, but that doesn't mean they will do it. LG has the capacity to brick their wifi-enabled refrigerators if they wanted to.

You can find a clone of that article for every system that has ever had any type of homebrew scene. The fact remains that intentionally destroying the hardware of your consumer just because they use it outside of the bounds you intended would be attributed to nothing but malice.

If Nintendo assumes you are breaking the law, that doesn't give them the right to break the law to get back at you.