Hacking Weird issue with Xenoblade Chronicles.

[Mr. Prince]

The game loads fine and I can play without any issues for 6+ hours straight. However, sometimes I take a break and open up the home menu while I'm away. If I keep the home menu for a long time the game acts weird when I continue playing. For a couple of seconds, the game runs fine. Then the BGM stops playing and I lose control over my characters. I can't even open up the home menu. The game is still playing as I can see my characters idle animation. This happens with wiiflow and USB loader GX.


Here is my syscheck:

Spoiler

SysCheck v2.2.0 HD Edition by Double_A and R2-D2199, JoostinOnline, Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.1U (v449)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 02.13.2007
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 51313185
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: United States (49)
Boot2 v4
Found 108 titles.
Found 49 IOS on this console. 4 of them are stub.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS80 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS249[56] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10 (DIOS MIOS 2.10+)
Report generated on 08/05/2014.

 

[Mr. Prince]

Sorry for double posting, but should I test another game?

 

[angelboy777]

Sorry for double posting, but should I test another game?

You should try it with another game
I have never had this problem with Xenoblade Chronicles

 

[Mr. Prince]

You should try it with another game
I have never had this problem with Xenoblade Chronicles

I tried it with Skyward Sword. I kept the home menu for about 5 hours. When I closed the menu and continued playing, the same thing happened! The BGM stopped playing and I could not control Link. However, his idle animation was playing. The same thing that happened to Xenoblade Chronicles.

 

[Ergo]

Is this on a loader? Is your hard drive going to sleep?

 

[Foxi4]

Is this on a loader? Is your hard drive going to sleep?

This. If it only happens after an extended period of inactivity then either the drive gets dismounted or automatically goes to sleep mode.

 

[Mr. Prince]

Yes, it's on a loader. Is there anyway for me to disable sleeping on my hard drive?

 

[Foxi4]

Yes, it on a loader. Is there anyway for me to disable sleeping on my hard drive.

Depending on the type of the drive, you may have access to such options via diagnostic tools - visit the manufacturer's website for more details. You could also try using a different USB cable - I once had an issue with a drive going to sleep all the time and switching the USB cable surprisingly helped, although I don't think it will in your case as the games only stop working after long periods of inactivity.

 

[Mr. Prince]

Depending on the type of the drive, you may have access to such options via diagnostic tools - visit the manufacturer's website for more details. You could also try using a different USB cable - I once had an issue with a drive going to sleep all the time and switching the USB cable surprisingly helped, although I don't think it will in your case as the games only stop working after long periods of inactivity.

Does the signal for inactivity come from being in the home menu for too long? Or can it go to sleep even if I just stop playing without opening a menu and not turning off my wii?

 

[Foxi4]

Does the signal for inactivity come from being in the home menu for too long? Or can it go to sleep even if I just stop playing without opening a menu and not turning off my wii?

No, the drive's logic board automatically goes to sleep mode if the drive wasn't written to or read from for a while, it's a feature of APM. If your drive's manufacturer doesn't give you the option to disable it, perhaps a third-party app could work - there's a few that can edit APM settings, for instance HDD Control by Ashampoo. Just Google APM and you'll find something. That said, the drive's manufacturer's website is always the first place to check.

 

[Mr. Prince]

No, the drive's logic board automatically goes to sleep mode if the drive wasn't written to or read from for a while, it's a feature of APM. If your drive's manufacturer doesn't give you the option to disable it, perhaps a third-party app could work - there's a few that can edit APM settings, for instance HDD Control by Ashampoo. Just Google APM and you'll find something. That said, the drive's manufacturer's website is always the first place to check.

My hard drive is a Toshiba MK5065GSX, and I searched for diagnostic tools by Toshiba and couldn't find one. I tried Ashampoo and it gives me an error when trying to disable APM. Something about my drive being incompatible or something like that.

I've been playing for hours without problems, unless I open up the home menu and keep it on for more than 2 hours.

 

[Foxi4]

My hard drive is a Toshiba MK5065GSX, and I searched for diagnostic tools by Toshiba and couldn't find one. I tried Ashampoo and it gives me an error when trying to disable APM. Something about my drive being incompatible or something like that.

I've been playing for hours without problems, unless I open up the home menu and keep it on for more than 2 hours.

Try HDParm for Windows:
https://sites.google.com/site/disablehddapm/

If that fails, have another comb through the available Toshiba tools - you can find them here, although I'm not sure if your drive is compatible with them.

 

[Mr. Prince]

Try HDParm for Windows:
https://sites.google.com/site/disablehddapm/

If that fails, have another comb through the available Toshiba tools - you can find them here, although I'm not sure if your drive is compatible with them.

I'll just try my spare WD hard drive. Does WD have a tool for it's storage drives that disables APM?

 

[Mr. Prince]

Depending on the type of the drive, you may have access to such options via diagnostic tools - visit the manufacturer's website for more details. You could also try using a different USB cable - I once had an issue with a drive going to sleep all the time and switching the USB cable surprisingly helped, although I don't think it will in your case as the games only stop working after long periods of inactivity.

How long did it take for your drive to go to sleep when you had that cable?

 

[Foxi4]

How long did it take for your drive to go to sleep when you had that cable?

Oh, I don't remember - it was 2 years ago. It was a stupidly short amount of time though - about a minute. Most games didn't even boot, the rest bugged up immediately after booting.

 

[Mr. Prince]

Oh, I don't remember - it was 2 years ago. It was a stupidly short amount of time though - about a minute. Most games didn't even boot, the rest bugged up immediately after booting.

My games load fine, so I guess it's not the cable. I'm currently trying to test my WD. I have Xenoblade Chronicles on and I'm at the home menu. It has been 4 hours since then. I'll go check right now.

 

[Mr. Prince]

Hmmmm after 4 hours on the home menu, Xenoblade works fine. Although my WD drive did get a little bit hot.

 

[Foxi4]

Hmmmm after 4 hours on the home menu, Xenoblade works fine. Although my WD drive did get a little bit hot.

It's not uncommon for a drive to get hot when it's not put into sleep mode during periods of inactivity - nobody leaves a drive running for hours on end for no reason, most people just... y'know, turn the game off when they're done playing.

 

[Mr. Prince]

It's not uncommon for a drive to get hot when it's not put into sleep mode during periods of inactivity - nobody leaves a drive running for hours on end for no reason, most people just... y'know, turn the game off when they're done playing.

Yeah, I know. Sometimes I go to the washroom and forget about the game after.

 

[Foxi4]

Yeah, I know. Sometimes I go to the washroom and forget about the game after.

Well, at least you've isolated the issue. I'd re-try disabling APM using HDParm on the Toshiba drive - if you're unable to do it via USB then connect the drive via standard SATA, you might be more lucky doing that.