Hacking I really wants to play Majora's Mask in portuguese. But i can't inject it! Help?

[CaliBR]

Hi, you people. Sorry about my lame english, that's because i'm from Brazil. But anyway, i'll try to ask for some help. It's all about me wants to playing Majora's Mask on my Wii in my native language portuguese. A group actually did a translation for a PAL version of the original ROM. And i tried to inject this on a NTSC WAD using the VC 'romc' Compressor/Decompressor made by Jurai and some other tools. And it works! But with crucial issues. Y'all see, some areas that's naturally dark became EVEN MORE darkened (like the opening with the Majora's Mask spining around) and the fatal error: when i pauses the game, come 2 seconds and the game freezes

Someone help me? Someone with a better knowledge? I would really appreciate it!

 

[tbgtbg]

I don't know, but MM is already fairly buggy, I can only imagine that a hack such as a language swap might only make matters worse.

And your English is pretty good, btw.

 

[GamerSince83]

Yeah Language Hacks might be troublesome for Wad injection never tried it tho.....I'm guessing u can try Playing it on PC

Sorry can't be more helpful

 

[CaliBR]

I see, you guys. But even when i inject the ROM without languages patches it results in the same problems. Maybe, i don't know, is the PAL ROM by itself that causes the problem. So, so close to play MM in portuguese

 

[bladepwnedyou]

Try injecting the PAL rom, into a PAL .wad. I Did a little messing around with wad injection for a while, and mix and matching between the two always caused issues. So try pal with pal, and making the final .wad file either region free, or NTSC is you have a NTSC wii

 

[CaliBR]

Good idea! I gonna try to do this right now! Thanks, man.


Updating: Nah, man. It's still in the same problem. And something i forgot to mention early, it's that the frame issue problem also (which i corrected converting the region of my Wii to a PAL one). Anyways, i think the main problem it's the region of the ROM, unfortonately. If i just convert it to a NTSC.. is there a way?

 

[DarkMatterCore]

I bet the problem is related to the ROMC compression type. I'm of course assuming you're injecting the ROM to the WAD of the official VC release.

Majora's Mask, Super Smash Bros. and a few other games use ROMC v2, but the program made by jurai can only generate ROMC v1 files. The only way to extract ROMC v2 files is by using romchu, made by Halley's Comet Software (hcs, for short). Sadly, there's no ROMC v2 compressor available.

Maybe you could try nicely asking hcs on his forum if he can develop a program that recreates the ROMC v2 compression.

Don't worry about the framerate issue; that's actually normal. You need to force the game to PAL60 (e.g. with a loader) and use component video cables or a multi-standard TV. It isn't really necessary to change the whole system region to fix that. Do NOT force it to NTSC, you'll just end up getting that damned audio bug.

 

[CaliBR]

I bet the problem is related to the ROMC compression type. I'm of course assuming you're injecting the ROM to the WAD of the official VC release.

Majora's Mask, Super Smash Bros. and a few other games use ROMC v2, but the program made by jurai can only generate ROMC v1 files. The only way to extract ROMC v2 files is by using romchu, made by Halley's Comet Software (hcs, for short). Sadly, there's no ROMC v2 compressor available.

Maybe you could try nicely asking hcs on his forum if he can develop a program that recreates the ROMC v2 compression.

Don't worry about the framerate issue; that's actually normal. You need to force the game to PAL60 (e.g. with a loader) and use component video cables or a multi-standard TV. It isn't really necessary to change the whole system region to fix that. Do NOT force it to NTSC, you'll just end up getting that damned audio bug.

Yes, im doin' with the official WAD. Man, you gave me hope with your comment now! Very, very thankful! How to make contact with him?

 

[DarkMatterCore]

You'd have to make yourself an account on his forum and create a thread, explaining why do you need such a program, why would it be helpful and nicely asking if he can do it. He's the most appropiated guy for this task, really, considering he already made the ROMC v2 decompressor...

Having a tool like this would be awesome. What I really want to test is ROM injection in the Majora's Mask WAD, since it is the only official N64 VC release that uses the Expansion Pak.

 

[CaliBR]

Gotcha! Later i tell how it goes.

 

[stev418]

highly doubt its a compression issue, romc v2 was evidently just an updated algorithm and using romc v1 shouldn't make a different. (You could test this by decompressing the rom inside the Majora wad using a romchu, and then re-compressing with ROMC.)

What i would do is decompress and patch the rom file from the actual PAL wad using romchu to decompress and romc to recompress - then use the patched rom in the PAL wad

 

[Blueie]

I don't know, but MM is already fairly buggy

It is? I didn't notice any bugs when playing the VC version, though I only played the Woodfall section so far.

 

[DarkMatterCore]

You could test this by decompressing the rom inside the Majora wad using a romchu, and then re-compressing with ROMC.

I already did that and it doesn't work. Plus, the output file is actually bigger; if the VC emulator has any size limit imposed (like previously demonstrated by srcorsario), it'll be a problem.

 

[CaliBR]

highly doubt its a compression issue, romc v2 was evidently just an updated algorithm and using romc v1 shouldn't make a different. (You could test this by decompressing the rom inside the Majora wad using a romchu, and then re-compressing with ROMC.)

What i would do is decompress and patch the rom file from the actual PAL wad using romchu to decompress and romc to recompress - then use the patched rom in the PAL wad

Ok, i cant patch the rom from the original WAD: invalid checksum.

 

[hcs]

Ok, i cant patch the rom from the original WAD: invalid checksum.

This is actually a good thing, it confirms that the ROM in the VC WAD is different. You should try to contact the authors of the translation patch, they may be able to modify it to work with the VC ROM. It may just be a matter of determining where the text has been moved to.

 

[DarkMatterCore]

The ROM in the WAD is just slightly different. It only includes some French language corrections, if I recall correctly (I did a byte-to-byte comparison with the original Majora's Mask release some time ago). There really aren't any code differences.

It is completely possible to patch the original ROM and use it. It has to be in big endian format (Z64).

EDIT: Found it: http://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Majora's_Mask/Program_revision_differences#Differences_between_the_European_versions. VC ROM is actually v1.1.

 

[CaliBR]

Yep, i confirmed 2 days ago that the ROM inside the WAD it's 1.1 version. And the patch that the group did is from the 1.0. I think that's why the patch won't work. Is there a way to do it without the needed to make contact with the authors of the translation? I mean, the project indeed it's pretty old. Anyone here know how to do this?
Actually i'll inject the 1.1 ROM, see if happens something different.

EDIT: TESTED. IT WORKS PERFECTLY! AWESOME! Now, only thing i have to do is be able to patch the 1.1 ROM. Can't believe that all this drama is for something so simple. The VC emulator uses the 1.1 version that's why the 1.0 had trouble.