Microsoft CEO Candidate Considering Selling Xbox Brand, Killing Bing

[DSGamer64]

Are you not still left with the problem of decades of X86 software not being compiled or otherwise available for ARM?

Yes, but you have to ask yourself, do you want an expensive but still mediocre x86 tablet with garbage battery life, or a cheaper ARM based one that has long battery life?

Star Wars has always been kid friendly, with the possible (ironically enough) exception of episode 3 (the only one rated PG13 instead of PG).

They only made it PG13 because Anakin was being emo for a whole hour and a half.

 

[chartube12]

I guess people forgot Lucas's sale of star wars netted him controlling shares in Disney. So even if micosoft sold the xb brand to Disney, it wouldn't become a mouse box, but rather the Jar Jar Box.

 

[The Milkman]

The concept is good, the execution is bad. You cant just throw stuff on a touchscreen and call it good. People expect different things from tablets then they do laptops. Microsoft doesn't understand that on either the laptop or tablet side, so you get an interface that's really not well suited to either.

How is the Metro interface not well suited for either? If you ask me, it works pretty dam well for both. The only problem with it really, is that its too gesture based.

Yes, but you have to ask yourself, do you want an expensive but still mediocre x86 tablet with garbage battery life, or a cheaper ARM based one that has long battery life?

Seeing how there are x86 Win 8 tablets which are 300~, I would much rather have a tablet I can do something other then Angry birds and Youtube on. And battery life is hardly an issue unless your using a i5 and up. The Atoms run just as cool and sip power.

 

[Joe88]

MS will just continue throwing money at it, doesnt matter how much of a flop their 1st gen rt was or how much money they lost
Those atom based full win 8 tablets are also junk, basically netbooks with a touch screen, you have to spend at least twice that to get anything decent

 

[The Milkman]

MS will just continue throwing money at it, doesnt matter how much of a flop their 1st gen rt was or how much money they lost
Those atom based full win 8 tablets are also junk, basically netbooks with a touch screen, you have to spend at least twice that to get anything decent

Have you actually owned and use one? Or is this the Win8 hate just bubbling back up?

 

[DSGamer64]

How is the Metro interface not well suited for either? If you ask me, it works pretty dam well for both. The only problem with it really, is that its too gesture based.




Seeing how there are x86 Win 8 tablets which are 300~, I would much rather have a tablet I can do something other then Angry birds and Youtube on. And battery life is hardly an issue unless your using a i5 and up. The Atoms run just as cool and sip power.

The Intel Atom processors are horrible, always have been. And yes, I have owned a computer with one and they are actually x86. The Surface RT runs on an ARM 9 Cortex processor, while the Pro runs on an Intel i5 dual core. The problem with most Windows 8 based tablets is that much like Android, most of them don't have external keyboard docks with extra battery life. Surface 2 changed nothing, with a $450 base price and $890 for the Pro, they are still some of the most expensive tablets on the market and one has limited functionality. If Microsoft expects students to buy the RT model just for school, well, yoiu can get a lot more computer for $450.

 

[The Milkman]

The Intel Atom processors are horrible, always have been. And yes, I have owned a computer with one and they are actually x86. The Surface RT runs on an ARM 9 Cortex processor, while the Pro runs on an Intel i5 dual core. The problem with most Windows 8 based tablets is that much like Android, most of them don't have external keyboard docks with extra battery life. Surface 2 changed nothing, with a $450 base price and $890 for the Pro, they are still some of the most expensive tablets on the market and one has limited functionality. If Microsoft expects students to buy the RT model just for school, well, yoiu can get a lot more computer for $450.

You owned a NETBOOK (I'm assuming that's what you mean by the extremely descriptive term of "computer") with one. The netbook models are all, what, friggn 2~3+ years old? I know four people with ultra-books with Atom processors, and i've spent quite a bit of time with each myself, they aren't the old Atoms that struggled to run the operating system. They are more then capable for tablets (though wouldn't replace my laptop any time soon, at least not an Atom model)

And like I said before, the surface tablets are not the only ones. Pretty much every computer manufacturer has at least, what 3?

And have you seen the tools people use for school and work? You don't NEED a lot more computer. If anything, you need something small, portable and handheld. Android does a decent job at working as a work station, but Androids don't run x86 and don't have years of compiled software. iPads are just for your retired mom to skype you on. I'm not saying Win8 tablets are something EVERYONE needs, i'm saying they are hitting a fair sized market pretty well, and aren't half as flawed as people seem to outright assume.

 

[DSGamer64]

You owned a NETBOOK (I'm assuming that's what you mean by the extremely descriptive term of "computer") with one. The netbook models are all, what, friggn 2~3+ years old? I know four people with ultra-books with Atom processors, and i've spent quite a bit of time with each myself, they aren't the old Atoms that struggled to run the operating system. They are more then capable for tablets (though wouldn't replace my laptop any time soon, at least not an Atom model)

And like I said before, the surface tablets are not the only ones. Pretty much every computer manufacturer has at least, what 3?

And have you seen the tools people use for school and work? You don't NEED a lot more computer. If anything, you need something small, portable and handheld. Android does a decent job at working as a work station, but Androids don't run x86 and don't have years of compiled software. iPads are just for your retired mom to skype you on. I'm not saying Win8 tablets are something EVERYONE needs, i'm saying they are hitting a fair sized market pretty well, and aren't half as flawed as people seem to outright assume.

Windows 8 Surface tablets lack software because RT is their biggest seller and no one is developing for a platform with such a small market share. There are better and more powerful tablets for the price of the Pro. Now if the RT version ran on an x86 processor that was capable of the multimedia features that mobile processors like the Qualcomm Snapdragon or Tegra 4 could do in terms of rendering and quality, then Microsoft would generate a larger market share over other Windows tablet manufacturers but they still need to offer products that compete with Android for pricing and that is another weakness.

 

[The Milkman]

Windows 8 Surface tablets lack software because RT is their biggest seller and no one is developing for a platform with such a small market share. There are better and more powerful tablets for the price of the Pro. Now if the RT version ran on an x86 processor that was capable of the multimedia features that mobile processors like the Qualcomm Snapdragon or Tegra 4 could do in terms of rendering and quality, then Microsoft would generate a larger market share over other Windows tablet manufacturers but they still need to offer products that compete with Android for pricing and that is another weakness.

ITT: Nobody reads.

 

[stanleyopar2000]

Disney cancelling Star Wars 1313,...makes them the WORST company of them all.

 

[Psionic Roshambo]

Fulgor in the next Smash Bro's.... lol Ultra combo on Mario?

All kidding aside, I don't think MS would sell the Xbox division so much as spin it off as it's own company.

Honestly if I was MS I would just rework Windows 8 with a huge focus on 720P and 1080P TV's with an eye to the living room entertainment center. This would give them a unified platform to work with.

Having a game console that's pretty much a PC at it's heart seems almost redundant in my opinion.

 

[DSGamer64]

Fulgor in the next Smash Bro's.... lol Ultra combo on Mario?

All kidding aside, I don't think MS would sell the Xbox division so much as spin it off as it's own company.

Honestly if I was MS I would just rework Windows 8 with a huge focus on 720P and 1080P TV's with an eye to the living room entertainment center. This would give them a unified platform to work with.

Having a game console that's pretty much a PC at it's heart seems almost redundant in my opinion.

Having a console that is hilariously obsolete compared to even an average gaming PC is redundant.

 

[The Milkman]

Having a console that is hilariously obsolete compared to even an average gaming PC is redundant.

Unless you don't want to shovel out the cash to buy a gaming PC, or the hassles that come with PC gaming.

 

[KingBlank]

The best move they could back would be to bring back ensemble studios.

 

[DSGamer64]

Unless you don't want to shovel out the cash to buy a gaming PC, or the hassles that come with PC gaming.

What hassles? Drivers for graphics cards? Nvidia does auto updates and AMD has a 1 button update function in their software. There are no hassles, hardware is built as well as it ever was and at least with a gaming PC, you don't have to replace a whole fucking system when the hardware decides to die or fault out and give you an error that can't be fixed. Oh, and at least gaming PC's don't have processors running so hot it causes the system to die. At least my PC games on won't cost $90, something M$ and $ony fanboys can expect next gen. But you can keep reaching for straws, consoles suck and people will soon understand why the PC is the only platform worth developing for. When next gen games are already being limited by hardware, it's not a good sign for how long it will last on the market.

 

[Deleted User]

Ooh, I like that idea. Greater independence is always a good thing.

 

[Prans]

...former Nokia CEO Stephen Elop (great last name or greatest last name?)

Why you ask?

Stephen Elope-with-me-please is clearly in the money business. When you can't Bing It, you have to fling it.

Of course, there's no guarantee that he'll become CEO or actually go through with such a move, but it's still fascinating to consider. It might sound fruity, but that's why you need a guy like Stephen Cant-elop.

Those Elop(e)s really cracked me up!!!

Sell the Xbox brand to Nintendo

That's what I was actually thinking...