Report - Video Games At Risk For Another Crash

[Kirito-kun]

All true gamers know that Mobiles are not for gaming, consoles are and PC's ...I love consoles, they have their own souls and PC is whell..a PC, sure you can play games on it, but its distracting at imes..consoles are symbol of simplicity..at least they where.. and also Prices of consoles are unreal. I mean they are real but not all of us can afford 400 euros console i mean cmon if nintendo Wii or Xbox 360 are 200 euros than ok, why not, i can do something about that but whe i see 400 euros i start to think "i will wait couple of years to buy used or new if price drops"

Blasphemy! The glory of the master race shall not be disputed! Only by switching to PC gaming can one achieve enlightment!

Consoles have "soul"? All a console is is a low-end PC with 90% of the functionality stripped away.

PC gaming is also vastly cheaper. Games only cost a tenth as much as they do on consoles.

Praise GabeN!

 

[Metoroid0]

Blasphemy! The glory of the master race shall not be disputed! Only by switching to PC gaming can one achieve enlightment!

Consoles have "soul"? All a console is is a low-end PC with 90% of the functionality stripped away.

PC gaming is also vastly cheaper. Games only cost a tenth as much as they do on consoles.

Praise GabeN!

That maybe true, i get what you are saying by PC = enlightment. I'm all for PC, PC = Good stuff, PC IS a High end console. BUT, for ME consoles have special place in my heart.

And also, you sound like robot in this movie
I admit, robot does look superior, but it does not understand human soul



Ah yeah, and also...who said that i buy games

 

[grossaffe]

I think if there's any kind of crash, it's not going to be from a lack of overall consumer interest as much as from developers dumping too much money into games and not getting the astronomical returns needed to get their money back. Already seen a number of developers close their doors because they spent so much money on a game that selling 7 million copies or whatever wasn't enough to recoup the losses.

 

[Kirito-kun]

Ah yeah, and also...who said that i buy games

Well in that case... please note that piracy is vastly easier and more accessible on PC. It is not required to wait for the system to be hacked as PC is always an open platform.

But why pirate games when triple-A games on PC frequently go on sale for under $10?

 

[Hop2089]

Well in that case... please note that piracy is vastly easier and more accessible on PC. It is not required to wait for the system to be hacked as PC is always an open platform.

But why pirate games when triple-A games on PC frequently go on sale for under $10?

Because many games have intrusive or detrimental DRM in it. Starforce and Always online DRM especially. Bad client services exist too such as Origin and U-Play.

 

[Videomanman87]

I don't think a crash is going to happen in quite the same back. Back in the 80's there were so much junk and little "gold" o the market. Anyone and everyone was publishing the worst games imagable just for a quick buck.

Now while the same could be said might be happening to the mobile market (lots of junk) the advantage now is ratings and social methods of communication. In other words people now can find out what is junk and what is good long before they buy. Back in the 80's you went to the store or ordered from a catalog and had no idea what it looked like or much of anything until you actually got it home and played it.

I am sure there will be a shake up, but a death? No. The only way it will get killed is if ALL the publishers don't listen to what gamers want and release junk titles. Otherwise gamers will know where to get good games and go from there. Those that don't give what gamers want, will go out of business. It is simple as that, and that is how a free economy works.

Well in that case... please note that piracy is vastly easier and more accessible on PC. It is not required to wait for the system to be hacked as PC is always an open platform.

But why pirate games when triple-A games on PC frequently go on sale for under $10?

Yes indeed, when games are reasonable most people will just buy rather than mess with complicated and usually hassle laden pirate methods.

Why hack when you can purchase a game for $2 or $5 on a steam sale. You just can't beat that. It is what happened to the music market. They made the prices reasonable and people would rather pay and have the convience and ease than pirate. In general those that pirate wouldn't have ever bought anyway. So to say they are "loosing a sale" isn't really true. And the pirate might tell say 10 friends that DO buy "hey this is a great game" and they buy hence the publisher makes more with the pirate in question than without.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Blasphemy! The glory of the master race shall not be disputed! Only by switching to PC gaming can one achieve enlightment!

Consoles have "soul"? All a console is is a low-end PC with 90% of the functionality stripped away.

PC gaming is also vastly cheaper. Games only cost a tenth as much as they do on consoles.

Praise GabeN!

AC4, 60 bucks.
CoD Ghosts, 60 bucks.
Skyrim, 60 bucks
Splinter Cell, 60 bucks.

Just to name a few.

 

[bj4e2]

I skimmed through most of the responses and felt the need to chime in.
What I feel is happening or already happening is a major decline in quality that is hurting good quality games, with a giant influx of shovelware on each system, gems are getting harder and harder to find or even create hype. We already have THQ,(that company owned by the baseball player, as well, can't recall the name offhand) that went under and a few companies getting consolidated(Atari)

Games are games, no matter what console they are on, it's a form of entertainment all of us share. I don't see a major collapse happening but more of a plateau that companies are hitting with the quality of gameplay, new ideas, and story. There are just too many sequels and lack of innovation.

 

[Kirito-kun]

AC4, 60 bucks.
CoD Ghosts, 60 bucks.
Skyrim, 60 bucks
Splinter Cell, 60 bucks.

Just to name a few.

Humble Bundle. A bunch of games, often triple-A, being sold at 1/10 of their usually value. Dead Space, Dead Space 3, Burnout Paradise: The Ultimate Box, Crysis 2 Ultimate Edition, Mirror's Edge, Medal of Honor, Battlefield 3, The Sims 3, Populous and Command and Conquer: Red Alert 3 all for $5.

Steam sales. Hundreds of triple-A games which often go on sale for 50% to 75%. Happens twice a year. No additional explanation needed.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Humble Bundle. A bunch of games, often triple-A, being sold at 1/10 of their usually value. Dead Space, Dead Space 3, Burnout Paradise: The Ultimate Box, Crysis 2 Ultimate Edition, Mirror's Edge, Medal of Honor, Battlefield 3, The Sims 3, Populous and Command and Conquer: Red Alert 3 all for $5.

Steam sales. Hundreds of triple-A games which often go on sale for 50% to 75%. Happens twice a year. No additional explanation needed.

Yes there is because thats only a handful of games. You're just being blind.

 

[Gahars]

Yes there is because thats only a handful of games. You're just being blind.

Are you seriously denying this? Have you just never seen a Steam Sale, or are you being Ruseler the Bamboozler again?

The only downside is that you have to wait a few months to get the good price cuts and super sales, but a little patience sure beats paying an extra %50-75 on major titles (and the smaller scale stuff goes even lower).

Try harder next time.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Are you seriously denying this? Have you just never seen a Steam Sale, or are you being Ruseler the Bamboozler again?

The only downside is that you have to wait a few months to get the good price cuts and super sales, but a little patience sure beats paying an extra %50-75 on major titles (and the smaller scale stuff goes even lower).

Try harder next time.

No I'm not denying it, but I'm saying that yes those games do go on sale. But not all of them, and some of them don't even get the biggest price gouge. And waiting for those months, you could just go to a used game shop and get a game used for roughly the same price.

But we're talking about sales here, which isn't fair. That's like me saying that the game shop in the town over from me has monthly sales of up to 80%.

 

[Gahars]

No I'm not denying it, but I'm saying that yes those games do go on sale. But not all of them, and some of them don't even get the biggest price gouge.

The vast majority of games actually do go on sale. It's the nature of the market - if everyone else discounts their games and you don't, nobody's going to buy your shit. Even EA, of all companies, has been offering some pretty deep discounts for their titles (and that was before the Humble Bundle), and if Literally Hitler Figuratively Himmler EA can do it, so can anyone.

And on "the biggest price gauge," so what? Even the most moderate of price dips tend to be better deals than what you see on consoles.

And waiting for those months, you could just go to a used game shop and get a game used for roughly the same price.

Unless the game absolutely tanks, the prices on used games generally don't fall meaningfully for quite some time. Plus, you're buying used, which comes with its own set of risks.

Waiting really isn't that hard. Plus, it's not like you'll be left wanting. With how cheap great games can be, it's quick and easy to build up a backlog that could last for years.

But we're talking about sales here, which isn't fair. That's like me saying that the game shop in the town over from me has monthly sales of up to 80%.

Of course it's fair, and of course your example is bogus. We're talking about money spent at the end of the day across the entirety of the platform, not just isolated to certain locations.

On the whole, PC games come cheaper than console counterparts. If you consider the costs that publishers are mostly able to cut on PC (manufacturing, transportation, etc.), it makes perfect sense.[/quote]

 

[ShadowSoldier]

The vast majority of games actually do go on sale. It's the nature of the market - if everyone else discounts their games and you don't, nobody's going to buy your shit. Even EA, of all companies, has been offering some pretty deep discounts for their titles (and that was before the Humble Bundle), and if Literally Hitler Figuratively Himmler EA can do it, so can anyone.

And on "the biggest price gauge," so what? Even the most moderate of price dips tend to be better deals than what you see on consoles.



Unless the game absolutely tanks, the prices on used games generally don't fall meaningfully for quite some time. Plus, you're buying used, which comes with its own set of risks.

Waiting really isn't that hard. Plus, it's not like you'll be left wanting. With how cheap great games can be, it's quick and easy to build up a backlog that could last for years.




Of course it's fair, and of course your example is bogus. We're talking about money spent at the end of the day across the entirety of the platform, not just isolated to certain locations.

On the whole, PC games come cheaper than console counterparts. If you consider the costs that publishers are mostly able to cut on PC (manufacturing, transportation, etc.), it makes perfect sense.

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PC games are cheaper on sales. But if we're talking not about sales, then there really isn't that much of a price difference at all.

 

[stomp_442]

The true test of consoles failing, when the next call of duty is released, keep a close eye on which platform sells better. If the next call of duty fails on consoles then it's all over but the crying.

 

[Gahars]

I'm totally right if you arbitrarily exclude significant factors and move the goalposts!

Gee whiz, man.

 

[DSGamer64]

PC games are cheaper on sales. But if we're talking not about sales, then there really isn't that much of a price difference at all.[/quote]


Console games are 69.99, PC games are at most 59.99 on Steam. Console games never go on sale, even on the digital marketplace and they never go on sale in physical form, only discounted well beyond their life cycle. PC tools games don't often go on sale at retail, but the majority do on digital. The only games on Steam that are still a ripoff after release despite sales are Call of Duty games.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Console games are 69.99

What the hell kind of games are you buying? Every new game I've bought has always been 60 dollars, tops. Pikmin 3, The Last of Us, GTAV, Call of Duty, Batman...

 

[FireGrey]

Video games are at risk to a crash because more people are playing video games on PC rather than console?
That is a heap of baloney (not the good kind)
Wouldn't it just mean that there will be a console market crash?

 

[retKHAAAN]

I have 2 consoles and 6/10th of a console! YAY!

So you own a WiiU then?