Gateway 3DS, News and Information

[beundertaker]

made this account to rant, been lurking over the Gateway for too long

it's a 1st gen device. hell yeah it's going to be expensive and hell yeah it's going to lack some features you take for granted. 1 rom? oh well. Make sure you have a laptop handy when you want to switch.
so what if it can currently only run in 4.5 firmware. The moment I read this I got my ass to walmart, bought a regular 3ds, peeled the id tags and returned it. The walmart 3ds is at 2.3 firmware or some shit. You have no excuse other than your laziness.
Protest all you want, but the sales will be very respectable for this item.

4.5 is going to be the new PS3 3.55 for quite some time. Gateway probably won't even bother getting the bitch to run in 5.X and 6.X

 

[beundertaker]

What is the highest firmware version preloaded on a 3ds that is new and sold in stores in the US, like Walmart, Gamestop, etc..? What are the chances of finding one that has firmware 4.5 or less on it new? Is there any way to tell by looking at the box?

obviously it's going to be vary but it's odds on favorite. when PS3 3.55 firmware was out the retailers had 3.41s in stock. the factory settings are months behind the actual firmware count.

 

[Rydian]

Yeah, right now I'd expect 5.x to be the highest. Generally you want to go to stores that are going to have units that have sat on the shelves for a while. Places that aren't too busy, or maybe places that you might not immediately thing of to buy videogames.

 

[Pedeadstrian]

Yeah, right now I'd expect 5.x to be the highest. Generally you want to go to stores that are going to have units that have sat on the shelves for a while. Places that aren't too busy, or maybe places that you might not immediately thing of to buy videogames.

I wish we had a place like that here. We only have Gamestop, Target, and Best Buy. Target would probably be the Best Bet, but not by much.

 

[Boy12]

I pre-ordered one just cause, unfortunately my 3DS XL is on 5.x and my daughter apparently updated my original 3ds without me knowing. but I'm hoping they get 5.x working otherwise damn a waste of $80 lol, no biggie for me been buying flashcarts since the GBC and know you win some and you lose some. I use my 3ds xl for my DSTWO anyways. I literally have 1 3DS game.

Wow, there exist flashcard's even for GBC o_0

I wish we had a place like that here. We only have Gamestop, Target, and Best Buy. Target would probably be the Best Bet, but not by much.

Well, actually back in 2007 (or sometime around that) you could buy a flashcard just in your local videogame store, or in a toy shop, in Holland!
But it's illegal now, which is too bad...

 

[Pedeadstrian]

Well, actually back in 2007 (or sometime around that) you could buy a flashcard just in your local videogame store, or in a toy shop, in Holland!
But it's illegal now, which is too bad...

It's okay to buy pot and prostitutes, but not flashcards? Hmm...

 

[Schaapje82]

It's okay to buy pot and prostitutes, but not flashcards? Hmm...

LOL!
Probably our government isn't making money on the flashcards...

 

[ichichfly]

Things often fall apart in implementation though.

After all, in theory it should be simplistic for a flash cart to update the presented header to get past a whitelist check, but we see tons of carts that don't for various reasons (like I said the AK2i is a prime example, according to AKAIO devs it ran out of internal space for the data required to be presented).

Well this sometimes happen this is something different the only way this card would need a revision because of an Kernel exploit from User-Mode was fixed is if they only have a exploit in a function that is not allowed for some games(but most games use the same access permissions). All other things are very unlikely(5%). A Kernel exploit from User-Mode on the 3DS is like this you can inject a stack from your User-Mode exploit this allows you to tell the program where to jump like this jump to this address and set r0,r1,r2,r3(depends on call) to some parameter than jump to doAPIcall(wtf) were wtf are the parameter to exploit something in the Kernel ). You cant execute your own code directly from a user mode exploit as the 3DS has some sort of DEP.

Btw: Still think this flashcard is a fake

add: The new checks from nin for DS cards are more complex than just a simple white-list check.

They do something like this ok lets read from below 0x4000 a normal DS card would bug up and read from 8000h+(addr AND 1FFh) so if that doesn't happen the card is faked (to make the card working again the card must be updated not only some data on an extra flash chip)

 

[tHciNc]

Still haven't seen any evidence that units with 5.XX are on the shelves anywhere. That means you are pretty much guaranteed that it will have 4.XX on it.

 

[remlei]

not buying this until

- a sort of game manager or something to handle multiple games in 1 SD card
- makes games regionless
- ability to dump games by your self (not teh pirate downloadz)

 

[Schizoanalysis]

Still haven't seen any evidence that units with 5.XX are on the shelves anywhere. That means you are pretty much guaranteed that it will have 4.XX on it.

Animal Crossing Ltd Edt has 5.X.
All new editions released after this will have 5.X.

 

[mr. fancypants]

not buying this until

- a sort of game manager or something to handle multiple games in 1 SD card
- makes games regionless
- ability to dump games by your self (not teh pirate downloadz)

I'm going to wait until christmas (or something like that)

hopefully it will support 6.xx then...

 

[Rydian]

Well this sometimes happen this is something different the only way this card would need a revision because of an Kernel exploit from User-Mode was fixed is if they only have a exploit in a function that is not allowed for some games(but most games use the same access permissions). All other things are very unlikely(5%). A Kernel exploit from User-Mode on the 3DS is like this you can inject a stack from your User-Mode exploit this allows you to tell the program where to jump like this jump to this address and set r0,r1,r2,r3(depends on call) to some parameter than jump to doAPIcall(wtf) were wtf are the parameter to exploit something in the Kernel ). You cant execute your own code directly from a user mode exploit as the 3DS has some sort of DEP.

Btw: Still think this flashcard is a fake

add: The new checks from nin for DS cards are more complex than just a simple white-list check.

They do something like this ok lets read from below 0x4000 a normal DS card would bug up and read from 8000h+(addr AND 1FFh) so if that doesn't happen the card is faked (to make the card working again the card must be updated not only some data on an extra flash chip)

I'm talking about getting the cart to boot, not anti-AP checks. It's checking for header and ROM data, which in theory should be (and is!) simple to update.

Yes 9/10 flash cart models out there do not work on the latest 3DS firmware, because they can't be updated. This has nothing to do with the theory, it's with the hardware (and the support from the team to a lesser extent).

 

[Thirty3Three]

I've preordered!

I'm hoping newer games, which will require higher firmware updates to play, will be fixed in some form, to work with this cart.

PS. Rydian, I like your avatar! Haha!

 

[agimann]

I've preordered!

I'm hoping newer games, which will require higher firmware updates to play, will be fixed in some form, to work with this cart.

PS. Rydian, I like your avatar! Haha!

Wonder where you preordered from even though I'm not located in America

 

[Thirty3Three]

Wonder where you preordered from even though I'm not located in America

I'm not sure if giving a site name is against the T&A on this site, however, I bought mine from one of the listed retailers on their site

 

[agimann]

I'm not sure if giving a site name is against the T&A on this site, however, I bought mine from one of the listed retailers on their site

That's fine, I also know a retailer from Norway on the same list, I will check with them thanks

 

[FencingFoxFTW]

I bought project x zone, wanted to start up the game then it prompted me for an update. Which I didn't so the game's been sitting there.
Now, regarding updates inside cartridges...

I would like to know if gateway 3ds card bypasses updates, or if newer games even boot with older firmwares (like proyect x zone).

my limited copy of P X Z updated my 3DS to 4.4.0-6U

 

[ichichfly]

I'm talking about getting the cart to boot, not anti-AP checks. It's checking for header and ROM data, which in theory should be (and is!) simple to update.

Yes 9/10 flash cart models out there do not work on the latest 3DS firmware, because they can't be updated. This has nothing to do with the theory, it's with the hardware (and the support from the team to a lesser extent).

No this is not only an AP it is also checked when the 3DS starts a DS card (only for some header)

 

[chitoviciao]

It is said that monster Hunter 3 ultimate's pack is 4.5
Can any of you confirm that?