E3 2013 Press Conferences

[VMM]

Erm, the controller is just a traditional controller with a touchscreen, this doesn't radically change gameplay, and you just cherry-picked two titles with one not even released yet.
Nobody's interested in it because it had a horrible launch and has no games, E3 will focus on Nintendo's biggest titles.

I agree that, WiiU controller is a lot more mainstream than Wiimote.
The problem is that you can't use more than two WiiU controllers.

Aside that, I can see many games forcing you to using these motion gimmicks just like Wii.
There was no need in using motion for NSMBW or DKCR, and, at least for me, these features are annoying as fuck.

I don't see what makes you think the Wii U is struggling in terms of hardware, and I don't think naive is the right word.

Here is a chart with the known specs so far:
http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_vs._Wii_U_Comparison_Chart

With E3 we will probably know a lot more about X1 and PS4 specs, but so far, WiiU seems far behind in terms of hardware.

 

[natkoden]

The Wii U should produce graphics considerable better than those of the PS3 and Xbox 360, provided they actually give a shit and are not lazy as fuck.

 

[grossaffe]

Here is a chart with the known specs so far:
http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_vs._Wii_U_Comparison_Chart

With E3 we will probably know a lot more about X1 and PS4 specs, but so far, WiiU seems far behind in terms of hardware.

that chart tells you practically nothing in how they'll actually perform. You need actual computer engineers to break down the hardware of each individual system to tell you what kind of performance each system has since they're built very differently. And even they'll have difficulty accurately giving you an idea what does what better because things like Cache performance can be difficult to forecast without actually experimenting on the hardware because of the nature of cache using spacial and temporal locality meaning cache performance can vary depending on exactly how it's handled, how aggressive the out-of-order processing is, and the program itself.

Long story short, ign knows dick. I still laugh at the time they claimed to have built a Wii U by putting basically random PC parts together.

 

[natkoden]

that chart tells you practically nothing in how they'll actually perform. You need actual computer engineers to break down the hardware of each individual system to tell you what kind of performance each system has since they're built very differently. And even they'll have difficulty accurately giving you an idea what does what better because things like Cache performance can be difficult to forecast without actually experimenting on the hardware because of the nature of cache using spacial and temporal locality meaning cache performance can vary depending on exactly how it's handled, how aggressive the out-of-order processing is, and the program itself.

Long story short, ign knows dick. I still laugh at the time they claimed to have built a Wii U by putting basically random PC parts together.

uhm... tons of sites do the same thing every time a new console is announced

they didn't claim to have built a wii u with PC parts, they just built a PC COMPARABLE to the wii u, to give the user a little more understanding about the wii u hardware, because at that time, it was very confusing and secretive

 

[grossaffe]

uhm... tons of sites do the same thing every time a new console is announced

they didn't claim to have built a wii u with PC parts, they just built a PC COMPARABLE to the wii u, to give the user a little more understanding about the wii u hardware, because at that time, it was very confusing and secretive

Oh, I know that, but the fact is that PC parts are NOT comparable with the Wii U. Some random three-core x86 CPU has nothing in common with the Wii U's CPU. Different three-core x86 CPUs have enough variance amongst themselves, using them to simulate a Wii U's PPC CPU is just stupid as there's no comparison... at all. Their answer to PCs running Windows taking up resources? "Eh, let's add an extra gig of RAM, that should do the trick". And then they compared games on this "Wii U", which again, is nowhere close to an actual Wii U in components, to games running on a real Xbox360 that are optimized for that setup. This may seem all nice and scientific to the casual observer, but, as someone who actually studies computer architecture, it makes me want to cry.

 

[VMM]

Because they have the most to prove right now with the Wii U's future and all. They never said that their E3 wasn't going to be "all bells and whistles" but rather that they would be using a Ninty Direct to replace the traditional E3 conference.

Two new consoles, with tons of info and games to be presented at E3, and you're hyped with the possibility of something to WiiU?! Really?!

 

[Deleted_171835]

Two new consoles, with tons of info and games to be presented at E3, and you're hyped with the possibility of something to WiiU?! Really?!

+ New 3D Mario
+ New Mario Kart
+ New footage of X
+ Bayonetta 2
+ Smash Bros footage!
+ Likely unveiling of Retro's game.

And this is just everything that's confirmed. With the possibilities of more unannounced games, it's perfectly reasonable to get excited. The Wii U is struggling right now and E3 is Nintendo's time to prove that it got game.

More PS4 details and games aren't nearly as interesting as we've already heard quite a bit earlier this year and the Xbox One hardly interests me.

 

[VMM]

Guys, really? When people say Nintendo e3, you obviously know they mean the direct. This "not going to e3" or whatever is getting old.

Sony and MS have new consoles to be released this year, and E3 will be bombing with news about X1 and PS4.
Nintendo giving up of E3 and using a Nintendo Direct instead doesn't seem good,
It looks like Nintendo gave up of E3 because they didn't stood a chance with the new consoles announcements.

+ New 3D Mario
+ New Mario Kart
+ New footage of X
+ Bayonetta 2
+ Smash Bros footage!
+ Likely unveiling of Retro's game. (excited about a LIKELY unveiling)

And this is just everything that's confirmed. With the possibilities of more unannounced games, it's perfectly reasonable to get excited. The Wii U is struggling right now and E3 is Nintendo's time to prove that it got game.

More PS4 details and games aren't nearly as interesting as we've already heard quite a bit earlier this year and the Xbox One hardly interests me.

It seems you're pretty hyped with rumours, there is no confirmation about a new Mario Kart or New 3D Mario.
Also there is no info that there will be some footage of X or Smash Bros.

We've saw almost nothing about PS4 and X1, we don't know how PS4 will look like,
we know almost nothing about their specs, and since these consoles will be released this year,
we'll probably see tons of info about them, and tons of games.

I can hardly see how Nintendo conference can be better than Sony or MS conferences.
For me, this is definitely not the year of Nintendo.

 

[Deleted_171835]

Sony and MS have new consoles to be released this year, and E3 will be bombing with news about X1 and PS4.
Nintendo giving up of E3 and using a Nintendo Direct instead doesn't seem good,
It looks like Nintendo gave up of E3 because they didn't stood a chance with the new consoles announcements.




It seems you're preety hyped with rumours, there is no confirmation about a new Mario Kart or New 3D Mario.
Also there is no info that there will be some footage of X or Smash Bros.

We've saw almost nothing about PS4 and X1, we don't know how PS4 will look like,
we know almost nothing about their specs, and since these consoles will be released this year,
we'll probably see tons of info about them, and tons of games.

I hardly can see how Nintendo conference can be better than Sony or MS conferences.
For me, this is definetly not the year of Nintendo.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...d_mario_and_mario_kart_for_e3_nintendo_direct

Regarding the PS4, we already do know quite a bit about the specs, we've seen quite a few PS4 games already at the event earlier and I couldn't give a shit about how it looks like. It'll be interesting to see what else they show but really most of the major info regarding the system was revealed already. And once again, I couldn't care less about the Xbox One at this point.

Being a Wii U owner, I as well as quite a few others (looking at this poll) are looking forward to the Nintendo Direct while you seem to mostly apathetic towards it. Different people are interested in different things. No need to get all argumentative about that.

 

[VMM]

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...d_mario_and_mario_kart_for_e3_nintendo_direct

Well, that's news for me, thanks for the info

Regarding the PS4, we already do know quite a bit about the specs, we've seen quite a few PS4 games already at the event earlier and I couldn't give a shit about how it looks like. It'll be interesting to see what else they show but really most of the major info regarding the system was revealed already. And once again, I couldn't care less about the Xbox One at this point.

Being a Wii U owner, I as well as quite a few others (looking at this poll) are looking forward to the Nintendo Direct while you seem to mostly apathetic towards it. Different people are interested in different things. No need to get all argumentative about that.

I get argumentative because, for me, Nintendo been the most voted in this poll is nonsense.
The only thing that explains this, to me, would be that people here are so Nintendo biased, that, no matter what happens, people would still vote Nintendo.

Considering this is site named GBATemp, I think this is extremely feasible.

 

[mrtofu]

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[Eerpow]

I'm thinking Nintendo will deliver this time around, as soulx said, they have a lot to prove. After two years of disapointing presentations they can't afford to do it again. They already confirmed more unannounced Wii U and 3DS games to be unveiled so there's a good reason to be hyped.
Xbone doesn't interest me (plus MS conferences are extremely shit and cringeworthy to watch) and PS4 already had a fantastic reveal, I doubt they'll present that much more than what we currently know.

 

[KingVamp]

Or (OR!), just maybe, people are legitimately more hyped up for Nintendo than you (VMM) think/want them to be.

 

[eyecat14]

I'm not a gamer, I'm a player, has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

 

[Deleted_171835]

I'm not a gamer, I'm a player, has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

You're a player, eh?

player haters represent

 

[FAST6191]

I'm not a gamer, I'm a player, has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

I am fully prepared for it to be a case of my being too bone idle to remember some of the earlier posts but I am not sure where that is coming from.

Anyway so you are swapping one term with many negative connotations (though perhaps not as many as there might be) for another with also many negative connotations that is broadly speaking an exact synonym.... works for me.

 

[eyecat14]

You're a player, eh?

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player haters represent

The word gamer sounds WAYYY more obnoxious imho

 

[VMM]

Or (OR!), just maybe, people are legitimately more hyped up for Nintendo than you (VMM) think/want them to be.

This discussion is getting nowhere, let's end it here and not derail the topic, please.

I'm thinking Nintendo will deliver this time around, as soulx said, they have a lot to prove. After two years of disapointing presentations they can't afford to do it again.
They already confirmed more unannounced Wii U and 3DS games to be unveiled so there's a good reason to be hyped.

Last year 3DS presentation was very consistent.
Wii did fine but it had support of casual gamers, and having a motion controller was quite revolutionary,
but WiiU is having a bit of trouble, it doesn't have the casual gamers appeal and doesn't have much third party support
Having a Mario Kart, a new Mario 3D or Smash Bros ain't gonna solve the system problems.
A console can't go fine alone with it's own IPs, and all these titles I said were predictable, it's more about when it would be released.

Xbone doesn't interest me (plus MS conferences are extremely shit and cringeworthy to watch) and

I agree with you.
You only have one opportunity of making a good first impression and that presentation blew it away (for me).
I think MS is working their ass out to make X1 more attractive to public,
so I wouldn't doubt if half of what we know was suddenly changed at E3.

PS4 already had a fantastic reveal, I doubt they'll present that much more than what we currently know.

I think that was just a small demostration of what's coming to PS4.
I believe we'll be bombed with tons of infos and games for PS4 this E3.

I'm not a gamer, I'm a player, has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

I fail to see the difference.

 

[tj_cool]

Timers fixed on the front page.

 

[jonesman99]

My vote is a toss-up between Sony and Nintendo. Sony's next generation actually has some promise so far with their last conference, but I have yet to see the console, its specs, and some more games, which is the deciding factor. Nintendo, lately, has had a somewhat of a silent period when it comes to releases to me, so I hope that their Direct will really focus on that as well as some new features for updates to both of their consoles.