Starcraft: Ghost Lives On... Kinda

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So... Starcraft: Ghost. The third person shooter was originally announced ten years ago, but soon gained a reputation for being Blizzard's Duke Nukem Forever. The project was besieged with constant delays for years until, finally, the developers smothered it in its sleep. Starcraft: Ghost, fittingly enough, died.

Or so it appeared...

This news comes to us from the UK incarnation of Official PlayStation Magazine. Burger was initially approached to discuss the upcoming PlayStation 3 iteration of Diablo 3, but when the chat turned toward the long-lost Starcraft: Ghost, Burger seemingly hinted that it might not be so lost after all.

"[Starcraft: Ghost is] on hold. It has never been cancelled," Burger states. When inevitably asked if that means that we might still one day play the game, Burger replies simply, "Maybe."

That's not much to go on, but it's important to keep in mind that this is a Blizzard Entertainment game we're talking about here - and not just that, it's a spin-off of what is arguably the planet's most popular strategy franchise, which would adapt the familiar characters and locations of Starcraft to a third-person, three-dimensional, action-adventure setting. Blizzard has never done anything like that before, yet all of its releases are objectively very good. For the past decade it was though that Starcraft: Ghost had been aborted and that we'd never hear anything more of the game outside of random gaming trivia and wistful nostalgia. Yet Burger claims that this is not the case. That the game is, in fact, still in some level of development (albeit the depressingly stagnant purgatory level).
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And here I thought it only had a ghost of a chance.

I have to say, I'm pretty surprised to hear this. Either Blizzard is really committed to getting this game out, no matter how long it takes.. or they just don't want to own up to their mistakes. Either way, really.

So, why do you think Starcraft: Ghost was delayed? Was it for quality reasons? Did other projects get in the way? Or did the deteriorating health and untimely passing of Patrick Swayze scuttle plans?

I want to believe.
 

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IMO: let sleeping dogs lie. After their poking around with the Diablo series Blizzard is dead to me. Whatever they produce (big if) is going to be trash, especially in the case of games that take too long to release, everybody's expectations get way too high the longer it takes for a game to exist.
 

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IMO: let sleeping dogs lie. After their poking around with the Diablo series Blizzard is dead to me. Whatever they produce (big if) is going to be trash, especially in the case of games that take too long to release, everybody's expectations get way too high the longer it takes for a game to exist.

They have pretty much thrown all their resources into Star Craft and Project Titan, WoW is a colossal waste of time, they aren't even adding new dungeons in patches anymore because they think that dungeons are competing with raids for play time, so instead they throw more dailies at people so they can get gear to prepare for raids for the casual players. They have pretty much given up on WoW and Diablo 3 was a colossal cluster fuck at home.
 

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Unless they redesign the whole game (graphics, gameplay, all of it) to adjust for modern times, it'll suffer the same fate as Duke Nuken: Forever. Poor reviews all due to the same complaint: Outdated gameplay and graphics.
 

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They delayed it to start work on D3, which was a colossal failure.
With all due respect, it was not a colossal failure. I personally do not like it but it did pretty good in sales and some people I know did like it at some extent.
 

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I'll be really happy if it comes back but I won't be waiting on it until any official announcement.
 

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It sold 3.5 million copies in the first 24 hours.

And it's now one of the best selling PC games of all time.

I wish I could fail like that.

Reminds me of tobacco companies, and as we're all aware, they're financially successful too. Sometimes money doesn't equate success. Just thought I'd put that out there... unless your idea of success is "make money by any means possible" then sure, Blizzard successfully scammed people.

In the long run, people with sense will abandon purchasing from their company. Also, I don't smoke. :)
 
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Reminds me of tobacco companies, and as we're all aware, they're financially successful too. Sometimes money doesn't equate success. Just thought I'd put that out there... unless your idea of success is "make money by any means possible" then sure, Blizzard successfully scammed people.
Might want to look up the definition of the word "scam".

Also inb4 I have to "ITT: people who think that a product is bad because they personally don't like it so that means nobody likes it".
 

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Might want to look up the definition of the word "scam".

Also inb4 I have to "ITT: people who think that a product is bad because they personally don't like it so that means nobody likes it".
No need, you might want to look up the history of Diablo 3's development process. There were so many things we were told to expect of this game that never saw the light of day and in the end it summed up as them selling it by it's namesake only. It is a scam, they capitalized on the popularity of Diablo 1 and 2 and used that as leverage to sell us horse shit with the Diablo name.

Oh, also: Go find out how many people have 'buyer's remorse' after buying into this game. I'd be willing to bet a majority of the sales were from preorders alone. I don't get how people automatically think lots of sales automatically means success. Short-term success if you ignore the real outcome of what happened? Sure. But then people wise up.
 
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Yes there is a need, because your following explanation does not fit the nature of what a scam actually is. Here, I'll even type it into Google for you.

http://www.rationalinquiry.org.uk/what-is-a-scam.php
A scheme which purposely distorts the truth in order to get someone to part with something of value.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scam
scam - deprive of by deceit; "He swindled me out of my inheritance"; "She defrauded the customers who trusted her"; "the cashier gypped me when he gave me too little change"

Your explanation, that they expected sales based on the good name, is not a scam. That's your own assumption. If they advertised it for sale with a lie (as in, they said something as a presentation of the product during the time it was being sold that was an outright lie, that is a scam.
 

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Your explanation, that they expected sales based on the good name, is not a scam. That's your own assumption. If they advertised it for sale with a lie (as in, they said something as a presentation of the product during the time it was being sold that was an outright lie, that is a scam.

Okay, well before this turns into "ITT: arguing over semantics" I'll just give you the long version http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5592453985 (I wrote that) I've abandoned the game long ago but perhaps that will give you some perspective early after the game released if you're bored enough to read all that shit lol then you can decide for yourself.
Either way, plenty of people feel ripped off of their money and I'd attribute some of Blizzard's actions as at least scam-like. "Tell them what they want to hear, get their preorders, and then don't deliver on what we told them"

From your own link:
scam [skæm] Slang
n
a stratagem for gain; a swindle
vb scams, scamming, scammed
(tr) to swindle (someone) by means of a trick

To me, it looks like it fits just fine.
 
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Either way, plenty of people feel ripped off of their money and I'd attribute some of Blizzard's actions as at least scam-like. "Tell them what they want to hear, get their preorders, and then don't deliver on what we told them"
So you're saying that they advertised the product (as in, commercials, direct statements during sales, and then sold a product that did not have what was advertised?

I'm interested. Give me a list.

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You know, to make sorting out quantifiable facts easy for the discussion.
 
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