[Rumors]Xbox720 Pricing, Subscriptions, No B/C, $99 Xbox360

Would you buy a NextBox/720 based on these rumors?

  • I'd have to think about it.

    Votes: 8 8.3%
  • Microsoft all the way!

    Votes: 6 6.3%
  • Nope.

    Votes: 82 85.4%

  • Total voters
    96
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It's the NextBox Rumor Roundup!

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According to WhatTheTech podcast host Paul Thurrott, his "sources" have some interesting things to say about the next Xbox... the "NextBox", if you will.

First off, pricing. The NextBox is rumored to cost $500, but interestingly, there will be a $300 subscription model also available. The NextBox will be releasing this November with a $99 Xbox360 codenamed "Stingray". This is apparently because the NextBox will not have backwards compatibility.

His sources also confirm the rumor about the NextBox requiring an Internet connection to function.
He also stated that there will be a reveal event on May 21.

Again, these are rumors so take them with a grain of salt, but definitely some interesting things going on if these are true.

Transcript:
"The next Xbox is code-named Durango. And we have talked for a while
about this notion that there might be another version of the Xbox that
was just aimed at entertainment—a non-gaming device. That device was
code-named 'Yumo' and they're not making it. They may make one in the
future, but it's not happening this year.

"So the new Xbox that comes out this year will just be the Xbox. And I
mentioned before they're also going to sell a new Xbox 360 code-named
'Stingray' that will be $99. And you might look at that as two things:
backwards compatibility, obviously, suggesting—I don't actually know
this for a fact, but based on the fact that they're making one—I don't
think that the new Xbox will play 360 games. But that I don't actually
know, that I'm guessing. But, the other one is that, $99, that's a real
coo price. And so we know that the Xbox 360 does Netflix, Hulu Plus,
yada yada yada, and you can make the argument that's kind of a low cost
entertainment device, too.

"Durango is going to be expensive [laughs], you know $500, $300 for the
subscription, that kind of thing, but you know, Blu-ray, blah blah blah,
but the thing that interest me, going back and looking at some of the
stuff I got a long time ago, it actually says 'must be
internet-connected to use' in the notes. And that's all I have, but it
does say that.

[Is that a bad thing?]

"I don't know because I don't know what it means. You know, when you
look at some of the stories that were coming out this week about, you
know, I saw a headline that said something like 'Next Xbox could be okay
without an internet connection for as long as 3 minutes' or something
like that. I don't even know what that means, so for me, Xbox 360 is
almost entirely an online experience. Most of the games I play are
multiplayer, where you're playing against other people online. Or you're
using it as an entertainment device when you're connected to a service
like Netflix or Xbox video, so that is an internet-connected device. In
this phrase, it says 'must be internet-connected to use', you know, that
suggests that you can't even boot into the UI and play—I don't know, I
don't know, I don't have one.

"Originally, they were going to announce this thing in April—April
24—now they're going to announce it May 21. We know there are events
occuring this year where we're going to learn more about Durango.

[And it's a fourth quarter release, right?]

"Early November, yeah. E3 is going to occur. BUILD is going to occur in
San Francisco in June when they're going to talk about the developer
story because it's a Windows 8 device. It's going to have the same, or
basically the same, developer tools and developer APIs and all that kind
of stuff. So I think there's a lot information to come, but I look at
all this stuff that I've seen about Durango and I think, 'it's all
positive.' I don't really see any bad news here at all. Like to me,
everything I've seen about this is really positive. It's amazing to me
that, based on like no information at all, everyone is like freaking out
about everything. Aside from this online thing, by the way, the number
one question I've gotten from people is, 'What does it look like?' Who
gives a shit what it looks like?

"I've actually heard from, by the way not one or two people, several
people who've said, 'based on what I've seen, Sony is going to blow them
away.' Based on what you've seen? You've seen nothing. What are you
talking about? No, but you've seen literally nothing from Microsoft.

[I don't think that's even a possibility considering how many people use
Xbox LIVE... You're not going to have this mass Xbox audience jumping
to Sony.]

"The problem Microsoft has has nothing to do with Sony or Nintendo
anymore, it's Roku and AppleTV. The market for hardcore video games, the
market of people will always buy the next Gears of War game, the next
Halo game, the next Call of Duty game, it's fairly finite. It's a decent
market, yada yada yada, it's not the market for tablets, it's not the
market for smartphones.

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Source: Gamespot via NeoGAF
 

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I refuse to believe MS could be this stupid, so I'm going to pretend, for now, that this is just idle rumor-mongering--always-on DRM, massive pricetag, cellphone-like plan--and that they'll wise up (if they plan to do this) before launch.

(And I don't even really care for the 360 or MS in general.)
 

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I don't think there's a company stupid enough to do that, so I refuse to believe so until they officially state so. But if it's true, you can count me out, and if it's otherwise, still going to stick with the Wii U and PS4 (maybe).
 

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The subscription thing's probably going to be more like the current 360 deal - pay $99 for the Xbox and pay for Live monthly for two years; it's not an altogether terrible deal, but if you have the cash to pay up-front then it's pretty useless.

No BC - I only see this as viable if there's a major architecture shift, like the PS3 to PS4... but as far as I'm aware the 360 is x86 based (or it's PPC based and I'm just talking out my ass, but I'm not gonna google this shit), and I'm certain the Nextbox will be too. At the very least they've got to offer BC for some Marketplace content as I'm guessing there's not going to be a huge out-of-the-box library otherwise.

Always online - the Wii U doesn't do it, the PS4 doesn't do it, and most worthwhile PC DRM systems don't do it. Won't bother even picking up a used model if this is actually the case, although I doubt MS is truly that ignorant.
 

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The subscription thing's probably going to be more like the current 360 deal - pay $99 for the Xbox and pay for Live monthly for two years; it's not an altogether terrible deal, but if you have the cash to pay up-front then it's pretty useless.

No BC - I only see this as viable if there's a major architecture shift, like the PS3 to PS4... but as far as I'm aware the 360 is x86 based (or it's PPC based and I'm just talking out my ass, but I'm not gonna google this shit), and I'm certain the Nextbox will be too. At the very least they've got to offer BC for some Marketplace content as I'm guessing there's not going to be a huge out-of-the-box library otherwise.

Always online - the Wii U doesn't do it, the PS4 doesn't do it, and most worthwhile PC DRM systems don't do it. Won't bother even picking up a used model if this is actually the case, although I doubt MS is truly that ignorant.
The Xbox 360 has a 64bit PowerPC architecture, not x86. If they opt for x86, which I'm sure they will, then there will be no hardware BC.
 

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Eh, I'm already pretty sold on the PS4 from its presentation plus Sony's current track record so the Nextbox wouldn't be appealing regardless. However I won't pass too much judgment and I'd rather see what it features rather than just price point and always-online being the two things we know.
 

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