Rayman legends no longer Wii U exclusive and Wii u version delayed

[kristianity77]

Mistreatment of the development team, is I think is the worse. Customers get screwed over all the time, but shit, to make your developers barely see their families at all for nearly a year is just brutal. And that's not the worst, let's be honest, developers work close if not more than 12 hours a day. That's horrible



You're an idiot. You should do some research.




You suck at trolling. You're not even trying to seem intelligent or legit.

Let's come back and have a look at my comments in say.......18 months shall we, and question then if I'm correct or not. Because this early in the Wii U's lifespan you are no more right to tell me the Wii U will be successful than I can say it's failing. I'm simply going off sales of the machine, which Nintendo has admitted are lower than expected. Like I said, let's see in 18 months shall we.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Let's come back and have a look at my comments in say.......18 months shall we, and question then if I'm correct or not. Because this early in the Wii U's lifespan you are no more right to tell me the Wii U will be successful than I can say it's failing. I'm simply going off sales of the machine, which Nintendo has admitted are lower than expected. Like I said, let's see in 18 months shall we.

It's lower than they expected, doesn't mean it's failing. It's selling and already sold a lot more than the PS3 and 360 did by this time.

 

[kristianity77]

It's lower than they expected, doesn't mean it's failing. It's selling and already sold a lot more than the PS3 and 360 did by this time.

I don't disagree that its probably sold more than the PS3 and Xbox did during the first 4 or 5 months. But the Wii U doesn't have any direct competition as there isn't anything new been released for the past 7 years!

If you don't think the sales of the Wii U will slow to a crawl once the new Xbox and PS3 come along, you've got to be mad.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

I don't disagree that its probably sold more than the PS3 and Xbox did during the first 4 or 5 months. But the Wii U doesn't have any direct competition as there isn't anything new been released for the past 7 years!

If you don't think the sales of the Wii U will slow to a crawl once the new Xbox and PS3 come along, you've got to be mad.

Will obviously it'll slow, but then everything will be back to normal. Which goes against what you're saying saying that it will fail and that it's dated hardware, when it actually isn't.

 

[pwsincd]

Can we for once not bring it down to a console pissin contest .

Any one know if there's been any Ninty comments or ubisoft comments since we had the DEVS are pissed off too comments?

 

[kristianity77]

Will obviously it'll slow, but then everything will be back to normal. Which goes against what you're saying saying that it will fail and that it's dated hardware, when it actually isn't.

But it is dated hardware! How can you say it isn't? Its probably JUST ahead of the PS3 and the 360 in terms of horsepower. These are 7 or 8 year old technologies!

Answer me these questions and tell me how it will survive?

1 - Games coming out over the next 6 months for 360 and PS3, which are NOT currently coming to WII U - This will be a problem don't you think?

2 - When new consoles come out, the writing is on the wall in that they will offer CONSIDERABLY more power than the WIIU. What will Developers do? They will do the same as they did with the Wii. You'll either not get multi platform games, or you will get stripped down poor ports. This in the end will leave the Wii with just games nintendo make, and shovelware.

The Wii worked like I said before because it offered something new, totally new, regardless of the hardware being underpowered. The 3DS worked because it offered 3D. The DS worked because it offered Dual Screens. The Wii U doesn't offer anything new. Touch screens are old now, and they don't have the wow factor that they used to have.

I fucking love Nintendo. I loved my NES, loved and still have my SNES. The N64 for me was the pioneer of great games in 3D. The Wii was great for what it did for motion control (even though like i said it was swamped with shovelware for the last 2 years of its life) but the WII U offers nothing new that either isn't available already, or, hardware wise, hasn't been around for 7 years

 

[the_randomizer]

But it is dated hardware! How can you say it isn't? Its probably JUST ahead of the PS3 and the 360 in terms of horsepower. These are 7 or 8 year old technologies!

Answer me these questions and tell me how it will survive?

1 - Games coming out over the next 6 months for 360 and PS3, which are NOT currently coming to WII U - This will be a problem don't you think?

2 - When new consoles come out, the writing is on the wall in that they will offer CONSIDERABLY more power than the WIIU. What will Developers do? They will do the same as they did with the Wii. You'll either not get multi platform games, or you will get stripped down poor ports. This in the end will leave the Wii with just games nintendo make, and shovelware.

The Wii worked like I said before because it offered something new, totally new, regardless of the hardware being underpowered. The 3DS worked because it offered 3D. The DS worked because it offered Dual Screens. The Wii U doesn't offer anything new. Touch screens are old now, and they don't have the wow factor that they used to have.

I fucking love Nintendo. I loved my NES, loved and still have my SNES. The N64 for me was the pioneer of great games in 3D. The Wii was great for what it did for motion control (even though like i said it was swamped with shovelware for the last 2 years of its life) but the WII U offers nothing new that either isn't available already, or, hardware wise, hasn't been around for 7 years

And since does having somewhat dated hardware been the be-all end-all of determining factor of whether or not a console succeeds or fails? Surely, a console cannot match current PC hardware for a few reasons; one, a console's hardware cannot be upgraded and will quickly become obsolete, and two, the price would be exorbitant.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

But it is dated hardware! How can you say it isn't? Its probably JUST ahead of the PS3 and the 360 in terms of horsepower. These are 7 or 8 year old technologies!

Answer me these questions and tell me how it will survive?

1 - Games coming out over the next 6 months for 360 and PS3, which are NOT currently coming to WII U - This will be a problem don't you think?

2 - When new consoles come out, the writing is on the wall in that they will offer CONSIDERABLY more power than the WIIU. What will Developers do? They will do the same as they did with the Wii. You'll either not get multi platform games, or you will get stripped down poor ports. This in the end will leave the Wii with just games nintendo make, and shovelware.

The Wii worked like I said before because it offered something new, totally new, regardless of the hardware being underpowered. The 3DS worked because it offered 3D. The DS worked because it offered Dual Screens. The Wii U doesn't offer anything new. Touch screens are old now, and they don't have the wow factor that they used to have.

I fucking love Nintendo. I loved my NES, loved and still have my SNES. The N64 for me was the pioneer of great games in 3D. The Wii was great for what it did for motion control (even though like i said it was swamped with shovelware for the last 2 years of its life) but the WII U offers nothing new that either isn't available already, or, hardware wise, hasn't been around for 7 years

If you're going to turn this into one of those debates, get the fuck out of this thread. You're reeeeeally too misinformed about basic information. But like I said, this isn't the thread for that. So get out.

 

[kristianity77]

And since does having somewhat dated hardware been the be-all end-all of determining factor of whether or not a console succeeds or fails?

It's not! If you read what I put, I have pointed out that previous Nintendo consoles have offered something that is new, exciting and gets the customers to the table regardless of power. That's how nintendo have sold most of there previous consoles since the Gamecube. This time round, they don't have the gimmick. The touch screen will not pull in punters like motion control did first time round, and it won't pull in punters like 3D did for the 3DS

 

[the_randomizer]

It's not! If you read what I put, I have pointed out that previous Nintendo consoles have offered something that is new, exciting and gets the customers to the table regardless of power. That's how nintendo have sold most of there previous consoles since the Gamecube. This time round, they don't have the gimmick. The touch screen will not pull in punters like motion control did first time round, and it won't pull in punters like 3D did for the 3DS

I see, then surely, you read what Iwata and Miyamoto said about the Wii U's power? http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/02/gpu_images_reveal_wii_u_graphical_power
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20..._development_teams_defends_wii_u_capabilities

Power isn't everything, and the Wii U's true power has not been fully revealed. It's more powerful than the Xbox 360 and PS3, that much we know. At least someone here has sources to cite.

 

[kristianity77]

I see, then surely, you read what Iwata and Miyamoto said about the Wii U's power? http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/02/gpu_images_reveal_wii_u_graphical_power
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20..._development_teams_defends_wii_u_capabilities

Power isn't everything, and the Wii U's true power has not been fully revealed. It's more powerful than the Xbox 360 and PS3, that much we know. At least someone here has sources to cite.

It's not about sources is it.

All I stated was is that Nintendo has done well previously due to having massive new ideas.

The Wii would have flopped completely if it wasn't for motion control.

 

[the_randomizer]

It's not about sources is it.

All I stated was is that Nintendo has done well previously due to having massive new ideas.

The Wii would have flopped completely if it wasn't for motion control.

And yet, people bitched about the Wii not being HD, so what does Nintendo do, release a console in HD, and yet people still can't be placated. People are as implacable as hell. New ideas or not, they did many things right. A better online system with a community of users (and online that's free), the ability to use Hulu and Netflix for free (unlike Microsoft), ports of excellent games that were on the PC, expandable storage up to 2 TB, the ability to play off-screen so other can use the TV. Can the PS3 or Xbox 360 send duplicate A/V data to a separate screen at the same time and have off-screen play? No? Then stop your doomsayer BS.

 

[Gahars]

I thought the parts of the Rayman Legends demo which used the buttons was excellent. The shit that involved the 'Wii U exclusive features' just felt disruptive to the gameplay.

Agreed 100%. I tried the demo out at a Game Stop - besides some awkwardness with the controller, the game was going great. I started out with the "Black Betty" section and had a blast. Then I tried the Murphy portion and all the fun came to a screeching halt. The game rips you right out of the great platforming to essentially babysit Rayman and throws as many annoying gimmicks at the player as it can (Tickle the enemies with the touchscreen! Turn the controller to spin the wheel! Bash your face in with the controller to make the pain stop!). It killed the pacing of the demo and just left a sour taste in my mouth.

I know it's new hardware and you're obligated to take advantage of it, but Christ, guys, don't kill your game in the process.

It's a shame, too, because everything besides this was perfectly fine. At least the 360 and PS3 versions will have Murphy excised completely.

 

[kristianity77]

And yet, people bitched about the Wii not being HD, so what does Nintendo do, release an console in HD, and yet people still can't be placated. People are as implacable as hell. New ideas or not, they did many things right. A better online system with a community of users (and online that's free), the ability to use Hulu and Netflix for free (unlike Microsoft), ports of excellent games that were on the PC. Can the PS3 or Xbox 360 send duplicate A/V data to a separate screen at the same time? No? Then stop your doomsayer BS.

The thing is though, it's debate at the end of the day. You and another chap on here tell me why you think everything will be OK with the WII U and I offer my opinion as to why I think that it will struggle. But the thing is, when I ask some questions of people who think the WII U will be fine (like I did a few posts ago) all I get is "get out of this fookin thread" rather than answers! I'm open to be prove, wrong or to be offered answers to my questions which would make me think twice or give me a different viewpoint.

 

[Alexrose]

This is hilarious to me. I own a Wii U but it's funny how butthurt everyone else is about it.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

The thing is though, it's debate at the end of the day. You and another chap on here tell me why you think everything will be OK with the WII U and I offer my opinion as to why I think that it will struggle. But the thing is, when I ask some questions of people who think the WII U will be fine (like I did a few posts ago) all I get is "get out of this fookin thread" rather than answers! I'm open to be prove, wrong or to be offered answers to my questions which would make me think twice or give me a different viewpoint.

I tell you to get the fuck out of the thread because you're derailing it going off topic.

 

[the_randomizer]

The thing is though, it's debate at the end of the day. You and another chap on here tell me why you think everything will be OK with the WII U and I offer my opinion as to why I think that it will struggle. But the thing is, when I ask some questions of people who think the WII U will be fine (like I did a few posts ago) all I get is "get out of this fookin thread" rather than answers! I'm open to be prove, wrong or to be offered answers to my questions which would make me think twice or give me a different viewpoint.

Well, I can see you're having a bad day after the Nords stole your sweet roll, so I'll escort myself out of this thread.

I think I'll go play Assassins Creed 3 and Mass Effect 3 on the Wii U

This is hilarious to me. I own a Wii U but it's funny how butthurt everyone else is about it.

I found just the thing to respond to such people

 

[Eerpow]

The thing is though, it's debate at the end of the day. You and another chap on here tell me why you think everything will be OK with the WII U and I offer my opinion as to why I think that it will struggle. But the thing is, when I ask some questions of people who think the WII U will be fine (like I did a few posts ago) all I get is "get out of this fookin thread" rather than answers! I'm open to be prove, wrong or to be offered answers to my questions which would make me think twice or give me a different viewpoint.

It's one thing forming an opinion, but forming one out of completely baseless rumors and false assumptions is out of the question. How the Wii U hardware will compare to other systems is unknown at this point, however compared to current systems it's way ahead, not just slightly as you put it. Don't look at the current games and go, oh it's that only what it can do? They're not games made for the system, they're quick cost effective ports of PS360 games, listen to what just about every developer has to say about it "we have to develop a game from scratch to show what it can do".

Really look up some real specs and don't say anything until games actually get made specifically for the WiiU, right now it seems like the first ones will be Bayonetta2 and that X game.
If the WiiU underperformes saleswise it will not be because it's hard to make nextgen multiplats for it, if it wasn't obvious already all three next gen systems will share similar modern architectures even if Sony's and MS' systems end up being more powerful. In the end it will always come down to exclusives when it comes to pushing the nextgen systems graphically.



Oh and yeah forced touch controls is a pain in the ass, hope it cools down eventually; I like the second screen concept and the ability to use the touch feature but not when it's abused like with early DS games.

 

[Bladexdsl]

12 fucking pages how much longer you guys gonna rage on?

 

[ShadowSoldier]

12 fucking pages how much longer you guys gonna rage on?

And forcing you to come in this thread is.....