RUMOR: Nintendo wants RARE back

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Games are as competitive as you want them to be. The fact that it "unbalance" doesn't make it automatic a bad fighter.

If Nintendo wanted to make a "mature" game, I'm sure they could and having "mature" titles under their belt will help
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Games are as competitive as you want them to be. The fact that it "unbalance" doesn't make it automatic a bad fighter.

By definition unbalanced fighters are bad fighters. The whole point of fighting games is trying to make it balanced so no character is grossly overpowered or completely useless. Not many games achieve this but there's plenty of games that strive for it to the point of patching games ever so slightly to make characters better or worse. Smash Bros. never actively pursued balance and it shows. Smash Bros. is fun as hell, I love it and I hope they make more, but I'd never consider it to be a qualification that Nintendo should make fighters.

Nintendo also wants to stay family friendly though. Let's be honest here, if it wasn't for casual appeal, then I doubt they'd be around for much longer. What happens when Nintendo makes a purely "gamers' console?" You get a Gamecube, 20 million total sales, and last place.
 

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Killer Instinct is far too mature for Nintendo

why do you keep going there and saying this and that is too mature for Nintendo? back when Nintendo had Rare they published all these "too mature" games, over the past few years we have Nintendo publishing Fatal Frame 2, Disaster Day of Crisis, Eternal Darkness. Just because they have a family friendly imagine don't keep barking on how they never publish mature games
 
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It's a shame Microsoft bought RARE, I loved the Banjo Kazooie games, and I don't own and Xbox...nor want to (Wii & PS3 ftw).
I think it'll be far too expensive for them to bother by the sounds of things.
Maybe it's best to let sleeping dogs lie.
 

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By definition unbalanced fighters are bad fighters.

So Street Fighter and King of Fighters are shit?

I'd say those games are pretty well balanced. Sure some characters are easier to become very powerful with. But all in all most (not every single) characters are just as good as any other character if you learn them good enough. The fighting games have always been: Best guesser/anticipater wins combined with skill ofc. Real fights are almost the same, the person with best anticipation and fastest speed usually wins. Power is not everything. Ofcourse it helps ALOT :)
 

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Killer Instinct is far too mature for Nintendo

why do you keep going there and saying this and that is too mature for Nintendo? back when Nintendo had Rare they published all these "too mature" games, over the past few years we have Nintendo publishing Fatal Frame 2, Disaster Day of Crisis, Eternal Darkness. Just because they have a family friendly imagine don't keep barking on how they never publish mature games

That's different. This is more violent and those were rather small releases. Plus in the past what, 10 years, they've published 3 "mature" games? Plus they haven't even localized Fatal Frame II (which was just a port published by Nintendo anyway) or Disaster: Day of Crisis.

Plus who even wants Killer Instinct to return? Look at all the popular 2D fighters today. Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Marvel vs. Capcom, Street Fighter x Tekken, BlazBlue, and numerous others.
 

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That's different. This is more violent and those were rather small releases. Plus in the past what, 10 years, they've published 3 "mature" games? Plus they haven't even localized Fatal Frame II (which was just a port published by Nintendo anyway) or Disaster: Day of Crisis.

Plus who even wants Killer Instinct to return? Look at all the popular 2D fighters today. Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Marvel vs. Capcom, Street Fighter x Tekken, BlazBlue, and numerous others.

But Nintendo published Killer Instinct on the Snes and N64 already :blink: I don't even recall it being toned down in the violence department from the arcade version. I am sure there are more than 3 mature games Nintendo have published in the past 10 years, those 3 happened to be the first few that came to mind. As for a return of Killer Instinct, believe it or not it used to be popular back in the day, and when your are using Marvel Vs Capcom as an example of a popular fighter today, you do recall how much of a gap there was between 2 and 3 right?
 

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But Nintendo published Killer Instinct on the Snes and N64 already :blink: I don't even recall it being toned down in the violence department from the arcade version. I am sure there are more than 3 mature games Nintendo have published in the past 10 years, those 3 happened to be the first few that came to mind. As for a return of Killer Instinct, believe it or not it used to be popular back in the day, and when your are using Marvel Vs Capcom as an example of a popular fighter today, you do recall how much of a gap there was between 2 and 3 right?

Nintendo ten or twenty years ago, demographic wise, is hardly the same as Nintendo now. Nintendo could publish titles like that because they didn't need a casual crowd for sales. Nowadays, it's different. Why do you think we've seen less Star Fox and F-Zero games and more Wii Fit and Wii Sports games?

And I realize there was a large gap between MvC2 and 3 but MvC2 was (and still is) a highly ranked fighting game. I don't know why you're using a time gap as an example when my point was that Killer Instinct isn't (and wasn't) nearly as popular as big names, just nowadays it has to compete against more.
 

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The day Rare rejoins Nintendo is the day EA starts making good games.

EA did make good games back in the early and mid 90's.

For something semi-recent with "EA" in the studio name.

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Otherwise there's Mass Effect, Mirror's Edge, Dragon Age Origins, Rock Band, Burnout, etc.

EDIT: The whole "Let's hate on EA because they got a useless title from a useless website" thing is getting old.
 

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Nintendo ten or twenty years ago, demographic wise, is hardly the same as Nintendo now. Nintendo could publish titles like that because they didn't need a casual crowd for sales. Nowadays, it's different. Why do you think we've seen less Star Fox and F-Zero games and more Wii Fit and Wii Sports games?
let us not beat around the bush, its all about money for them but we have had 2 Wii Sports games and 2 Wii Fit games in recent years due to the market being there and the Wii being able to pull it off with what it has (excluding the balance board).F zero or Star Fox don't think would have really worked on the Wii with motion controls hence why we haven't seen them in recent years on a console but the effort that Nintendo put into Star Fox 643D but surely show they haven't forgotten the franchise or fan base?

And I realize there was a large gap between MvC2 and 3 but MvC2 was (and still is) a highly ranked fighting game. I don't know why you're using a time gap as an example when my point was that Killer Instinct isn't (and wasn't) nearly as popular as big names, just nowadays it has to compete against more.

now a days no it isn't popular but I recall it being quite big back when it came out, but I would argue the opposite, there was probably many more crap fighting games back then with the arcade culture than there is today on home consoles. Not that I ever expect Killer Instinct to make a come back, but saying there is too much competition seems like a poor excuse considering how many first person shooters we have on the market today
 

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Last night an anoymous tipster informed ZeldaInformer that Nintendo are in negotiations with Microsoft to buy the legendary developer RARE back, RARE was purchased by Microsoft back in 2002 for almost half a billion dollars.

The reason behind this is that apparently Nintendo first party developer, Retro Studios (Metroid Prime, Donkey Kong Country Returns) are deep in development of a new Banjo Kazooie game with the propsed purchase being made for the intension of owning the IP. It should be noted that these apparent talks have been happening for quite some time now.

If RARE was to be sold back to Nintendo alongside Banjo Kazzoie would be franchises like Killer Instinct, Perfect Dark and Conker's Bad Fur Day.

Source http://www.zeldainfo...ip-of-banjo-and

Those are franchise's that should have stayed on Nintendo and never left, if this does turn out to be true that would be great since all they have done is collect dust since RARE was bought...tell me I'm wrong! :P
 

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Those are franchise's that should have stayed on Nintendo and never left, if this does turn out to be true that would be great since all they have done is collect dust since RARE was bought...tell me I'm wrong! :P

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Quality is, um, "questionable" but they have been used since Rare changed hands.

If you want something that is not of questionable quality...
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One of the best ports ever.
 

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one of the games that could have really been fixed up perfectly on the 360....for shame
 

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